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What is the eternal fate of really evil people?
Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:08pm
 
What is the eternal fate in the afterlife of really evil people?

Such as?

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25. Elizabeth Bathory

Often referred to as ‘Countess Dracula’, Elizabeth Bathory was one of the inspirational figures that lead to the creation of Dracula himself.

This monster of a woman believed that the blood of young girls was the secret to keeping her skin looking vibrant and youthful… She managed to obtain her “skin care” system by torturing and killing over 650 girls!

There are also rumours are that she had cannibalistic tendencies and that she would eat her servants and then bath in their blood… Full on!

24. Talat Pasha

Talat Pasha was the Grand Vizier, or Prime Minister, to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire through the late 1910’s.
As Grand Vizier he was responsible for the rape, torture, and genocide of around 1.5 million Armenian people…

23. Josef Mengele

The name Josef Mengele has become synonymous with the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz, which he was charged with running throughout WWII.

Asides from sending more than 400,000 innocent Jews the gas chambers he was also responsible for overseeing the horrific human experiments program and ordering other barbaric atrocities on his prisoners.

22.  Reinhard Heydrich

Described as “the man with the iron heart” by Adolf Hitler himself, historians regard Reinhard Heydrich as the darkest figure within the Nazi elite.

Heydrich was one of the main authorities charged with “relocating” 60,000 Jews from Germany to Poland, where they were forced to settle in Ghettos and eventually shipped off to the death camps

21. Osama bin Laden

As the founder of the Islamic extremist group Al-Qaeda, bin Laden was ultimately responsible for the worst terror attack carried out on United States soil since the bombing of Pearl Harbor during WWII.

His attack on the world trade center-left 3,000 people dead with a further 6,000 injured.

20. Saddam Hussein

As the president of Iraq, Saddam Hussein was responsible for the genocide killings of approximately 2 million of his own citizens. It is said that he would record these executions and watch them at his house for amusement.

19. Heinrich Himmler

Himmler was one of the most powerful members of the Nazi party and was responsible for the deaths of between 6-7 million Jewish Poles, Russians, and communists. This sick man had furniture and books made from the bones and the skins of his Jewish victims.

18. Adolf Eichmann

As another major organiser of the Holocaust, Adolf Eichmann facilitated and managed mass deportation of Jews to ghettos and extermination camps. He was responsible for up to 5 to 6 million Jewish deaths and had claimed himself that he would happily kill his own father if he was ordered to do so.

17. Maximilien Robespierre

As one of the leading figures of the French Revolution, Maximilien Robespierre created a reign of terror that took place over a 10-month period where he carried out innumerable horrid executions.

After coming into power he began killing people indiscriminately, including some of his closest friends and believed that rather than forgiving people, it was best to just kill them

16. Kim Il Sung

As the “creator” of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea), Kim II Sung was responsible for invading South Korea in 1950 and starting the Korean War, which resulted in 3 million casualties.

15. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini led a religious coup in Iran that lead to the murder of both his religious and political rivals.

Once in power, the Ayatollah imposed hard religious laws on the Iranian people, which has led to the imprisonment and torture of dissenting citizens.

19. Heinrich Himmler

Himmler was one of the most powerful members of the Nazi party and was responsible for the deaths of between 6-7 million Jewish Poles, Russians, and communists. This sick man had furniture and books made from the bones and the skins of his Jewish victims.

14. Emperor Hirohito

As the ruler of the Japanese Empire, Emperor Hirohito was responsible for atrocious crimes against humanity and genocide of millions of Chinese, Indonesian, Korean, Filipino and Indochinese citizens.

In particular, he ordered all Chinese war prisoners to be killed in favour of capture, he forced husbands to rape their wives and daughters and he allowed his soldiers to sexually assault over 200,000 women during WWII.

13. Nero

Nero was one of the truly cruel leaders of the Roman Empire. Renowned for his anti-Christian sentiments he would poison, stab, burn, boil and crucify Christians for their beliefs and he ultimately blamed the Roman Christians for the Great Fire of Rome, for which he was responsible for himself.

12. Caligula

Caligula was a member of the house of rulers conventionally known as the Julio-Claudian dynasty and was truly mad!

With delusions of grandeur, and believing himself to be a god, he would murder and torture for fun. He ended up murdering some of his most important allies and family members that ultimately led to his demise.

11. Attila the Hun

Attila the Hun was the most feared enemy of the Western and Eastern Roman empires.

A battle hungry and barbaric leader, his best-known atrocity was the murder of the Virgin Saint Ursula and 11,000 of her companions after she refused to marry him…

10. Genghis Khan

In his conquest of the Mongol Empire, Genghis Khan was responsible for the massacre of between 20 – 60 million people, which equated to between 10% – 30% of the entire world’s population at the time!

In his worst single massacre, more that 700,000 people were said to have been killed.

9. Leopold II of Belgium

As the king of Belgium, Leopold II founded the African nation Congo Free State and, whilst representing to the rest of world that he was helping the local Congolese population, the reality was that Leopold was committing heinous crimes against humanity.

Under Leopold’s orders, his men tortured, maimed and slaughtered close to 50% of Congo Free State’s population…

8. Tomas de Torquemada

Tomas de Torquemada was a Spanish Dominican friar and was the first Grand Inquisitor in Spain’s Inquisition movement to restore Christianity from 1483 to 1498.
Under Torquemada’s rule, he helped create an internal climate of fear that leads to many innocent people being tortured and burned alive.

7. Mao Zedong

As the dictator of China, Mao’s implemented policies he theorised would lead his country becoming a superpower nation.

In the process, Moa instigated the biggest famine and genocide in known history and in total Mao killed, both directly and indirectly, around 70 million people.

6. Ivan the Terrible

After acquiring his position as the Grand Prince Of Moscow in 1533 Ivan the Terrible became very paranoid…
In his quest to protect his power he forced thousands of people to move from their homes and ordered untold cruelty upon them, including beheading, strangling, burning, blinding, impaling and frying his victims.

5. Idi Amin

As President of Uganda Idi Amin can be described as possibly one of the most brutal dictators of all time.
He is responsible for the execution of hundreds of thousands of his own people, many of which were broadcast on television, and his men’s signature method to kill and torture people was to use sledgehammers.

In total, he killed and tortured between 300,000 to 500,000 Ugandans.

4. Pol Pot

Pol Pot came to power in the late 1970’s as the leader of Cambodia’s Khmer Rouge party. His desire to bring Cambodia back to its agricultural roots led his party to commit one of the worst genocides in recorded history.

The now famous Killing Fields and S21 now display the skulls of millions of Cambodia citizens, many of whom were beaten to death with sticks to save on bullets…
In total, Pol Pot killed close to 3 million Cambodians, which was around 33% of the countries population…

3. Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was the Austrian-born politician and the leader of the Nazi Party. Hitler was at the centre of Nazi Germany war policy, including creating and overseeing the Holocaust.

In total, Hitler was directly responsible for the death of up to 11 million people but, due to his actions, he caused the death of over 50 million people during WWII.

2. Joseph Stalin

As the leader of the Soviet Union from the mid-1920s to 1953, Joseph Stalin once said: “one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is simply a statistic”.

Under Stalin’s rule, his communist regime was ultimately responsible for the deaths of up to 40 million people.

1. Vlad Dracula

Also known as Vlad the Impaler, Vlad Dracula was renowned for the numerous methods in which he used to torture and kill people.

Impalement was his most common method of killing people and it was possibly the most horrible and painful methods of execution ever devised. Victims were often impaled through bodily orifices or through the abdomen or chest and

Vlad was known to leave his stakes a little dull to ensure impalement was slow and painful…  He was also known to roast children of the poor and weak and forced their own parents to eat them!

As one of the most deranged and sadistic humans to ever live, Vlad Dracula has been named as the evilest person history has ever seen.

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Reply #1 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:54pm
 
Cut it out, Alan. That's gross.
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 1:02am
 
Who knows? There are so many afterlife possibilities, and eternity is changing all the time. Only the Absolute is changeless or it would not be absolute. Some might say such murderers as those above all went to hell for ever. Others might say they reincarnated as little creatures to get tormented by bigger creatures for many repeated lives. Others might say they are receiving retributive karma as reincarnated humans being tortured by other humans, and again for many repeated lives until they had paid their debt to humanity. Or perhaps they have learnt and grown and today are wiser kinder souls than what they were, and are now living varied lives here and there. Or perhaps some of them have swung the other way and have reincarnated as campaigners against violence and cruelty. Who knows, some of them might have repented and been forgiven by Christ and saved from their karma. Perhaps some of them are living quiet ordinary lives. If there is an afterlife then it is most likely that each of those souls are in a different place and state of being, perhaps similar or perhaps vastly different to each other, of some similar and some different. Variation with similarity and difference is the most common thing across creation so I expect their situations and conditions are various with similarities and difference. That would most fit into the pattern of reality.

seagullresting wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
Cut it out, Alan. That's gross.

Hi seagullresting. Don't get into a flap dear  : )
That such people exist in the world might be too unpleasant for you to think about but wondering what might become of such people after death is still a natural question to consider on a discussion board about the afterlife.

By the way, why was this thread moved to the Off Topic section?   
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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:04am
 
Everyone knows what serial killers do. Everyone knows what violence is. We have it in our faces everyday. This type of thread has been reposted many times and usually ends up in an argument about how the killers should be separated from others in 'heaven' because in 'heaven' people are mind readers and it would be too difficult for 'good' people to be around them in 'heaven' even if they were forgiven. I think the subject can be brought up, of course, but there is no reason to put these kinds of details out there over and over. I am not in a flap at all, whatever a flap is. But, thanks anyway!

It would be good to point out that the majority of these kinds of activities are perpetrated by men. It would also be factual to point out that for women, in general, it is quite possibly harmful to our own journeys toward personal power to have the constant threat of physical harm in our subconscious minds from the time we are children. If you wonder why there is not more equality in the world you might take a look at what happens to the minds of girls by the time they are five years old.

For me, personally, it is just. too. much. information. Ta ta, have a very nice day.

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Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 8:34am
 
seagullresting wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:04am:
Everyone knows what serial killers do. Everyone knows what violence is. We have it in our faces everyday. This type of thread has been reposted many times and usually ends up in an argument about how the killers should be separated from others in 'heaven' because in 'heaven' people are mind readers and it would be too difficult for 'good' people to be around them in 'heaven' even if they were forgiven. I think the subject can be brought up, of course, but there is no reason to put these kinds of details out there over and over. I am not in a flap at all, whatever a flap is. But, thanks anyway!

It would be good to point out that the majority of these kinds of activities are perpetrated by men. It would also be factual to point out that for women, in general, it is quite possibly harmful to our own journeys toward personal power to have the constant threat of physical harm in our subconscious minds from the time we are children. If you wonder why there is not more equality in the world you might take a look at what happens to the minds of girls by the time they are five years old.

For me, personally, it is just. too. much. information. Ta ta, have a very nice day.



If you people can't say the "H" word I will. They are in hell separated by their own depravity from the love of God forever and forever and forever. Eternity of torment
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Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 9:42am
 
There is another 'H' word and that is hate. Is it necessary to hate someone to know that their actions are wrong?

After years of gravitating towards information about the hard and heavy in life I know it's possible to keep a distance from the information at hand. As for the list, I can read it without feeling bad. Though the list doesn't tell the whole story about reality, it shows a part of reality.

1 John 2:9-11 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing to make them stumble. But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because darkness has blinded them.
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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 11:49am
 
Uno wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 9:42am:
There is another 'H' word and that is hate. Is it necessary to hate someone to know that their actions are wrong?

After years of gravitating towards information about the hard and heavy in life I know it's possible to keep a distance from the information at hand. As for the list, I can read it without feeling bad. Though the list doesn't tell the whole story about reality, it shows a part of reality.

1 John 2:9-11 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing to make them stumble. But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because darkness has blinded them.


So you love these hideous monsters, despots and serial killers and child molesters, of which according to your logic we have to mingle with for an eternity.

They are exactly where they belong in hell and they are the haters, not me

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seagullresting wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:04am:
Everyone knows what serial killers do. Everyone knows what violence is. We have it in our faces everyday. This type of thread has been reposted many times and usually ends up in an argument about how the killers should be separated from others in 'heaven' because in 'heaven' people are mind readers and it would be too difficult for 'good' people to be around them in 'heaven' even if they were forgiven. I think the subject can be brought up, of course, but there is no reason to put these kinds of details out there over and over. I am not in a flap at all, whatever a flap is. But, thanks anyway!

It would be good to point out that the majority of these kinds of activities are perpetrated by men. It would also be factual to point out that for women, in general, it is quite possibly harmful to our own journeys toward personal power to have the constant threat of physical harm in our subconscious minds from the time we are children. If you wonder why there is not more equality in the world you might take a look at what happens to the minds of girls by the time they are five years old.

For me, personally, it is just. too. much. information. Ta ta, have a very nice day.



Rubbish, exactly where are all these people who know what serial killers do. Such as Ted Bundy who would beat up woman, then rape them and return to their corpses to engage in sex with the dead bodies of their victims.

You can love them but not me

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seagullresting wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
Cut it out, Alan. That's gross.


It might be gross but it is also the truth about just how evil these despots were before dying and having to face Almighty God
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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 12:13pm
 
How would I know about who we mingle with in eternity Alan? Sometimes even the day after the next is hard to predict, let alone to predict the future history of souls.

I've read about stories where hideous acts are forgiven by victims and families, which is not say I've been exposed to anything remotely similar. But that doesn't prevent me from questioning hate.
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 8:33am
 
seagullresting wrote on Jun 15th, 2017 at 8:54pm:
Cut it out, Alan. That's gross.


Who gave you the authority to tell me to "Cut it Out" ?

It is the truth about the acts of despicable depraved people who deserve hell fire.

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