The following is more based on a combo of holistic logic and a lot of research into what's going on in the world than anything else.  As I've mentioned in other threads, I've come to understand and perceive that there is A LOT of corruption in the world and in most governments--which the US government perhaps taking the cake in some less obvious/more hidden ways. 
     Try to imagine this:  You're a psychopathic plutocrat with immense wealth, resources, and connections at your demand.  You spend a lot of money on various "programs" that help to keep the average person in the dark about the degree and level of corruption--meaning how much you influence government, media, and other forms of control and perception manipulation. 
      Would you want people to start exploring the nonphysical and communicating with positive guidance?  Really think about this: If people started to directly explore the nonphysical, communicate with positive guidance and generally become more and more intuitive and psychic, it would be harder and harder to deceive and hide your dirty little secrets from such folks. 
     Such folks would become more and more wise to your machinations of manipulation.  You might even find yourself starting programs and hiring people to either discredit nonphysical reality, OR perhaps try to facilitate generalized fear and over caution with directly exploring/communicating with the nonphysical. 
     If you don't think that forces of corrupt power, wealth, and control (like corporations, government, banks, etc) don't hire people to spread disinfo, well, I would say you're sadly naive and to watch the following and then get back to me:
https://youtu.be/dK__WF96F8I
      If you watch the above, you will see that the giant, mega corporation Monsanto, got caught red handed, hiring and paying people to go on social media and spread their falsities, half truths, and disinfo to support their cause of convincing people GMO's, etc are completely safe, and thus increase their bottom-line--profit.
       So, do you think it's possible that this can happen with say forums started by real Helpers, whom are having a positive effect on others and helping them to directly explore the nonphysical and communicate with positive guidance? 
      How would such paid individuals promote their master's agendas of distorting perception about such topics? Maybe mostly subtly.  Pretend like they're one of the crowd, that they're genuinely interested in such topics, but they'll "oh so subtly" start to inject doubt and fear about these activities.  They might subtly call in question the core and basic sincerity of the person who started said forum. 
        Dunno, but it is interesting to think about. Consider it a tentative hypothesis at this point.  I suppose if one hasn't done a lot of research into the corruption and misleading nature of the US government (rather those most in control of same), and of world power structures like the international banking system, then most of the above just won't make any sense. 
   An excellent, grounded, holistically logical source along these lines is James Corbett and his Youtube videos under "Corbett Report" and "Corbett Report Extras". I don't know what it is about James, but there is just something that beyond his excellent, astute, methodical, and very well researched work, makes me smile and feel all warm and fuzzy inside.  Perhaps because he strikes me as a person of deep integrity, deep ethics, and with a real concern for all of humanity.

I remember reading some place that people are payed to blog according to the viewpoints others want to advocate. It is a shame that people will sell themselves to the highest bidder.

One thing a person might find out about if he or she opens up to communicating with friendly spirit beings, is that unfriendly alien beings are interfering with this world. Certainly such beings would try to suppress such people by getting other people to refer to such people as wackos, deluded, deceived by demons, etc.

     I should add to the above, that while the physical, overt war won't happen for many, many generations--we are currently very much engaged in a more subtle, but still very important and intense war and battle of perception, information and belief systems. 

     As Bob Monroe so well taught, beliefs and belief systems have a lot of influence on perception, and in turn influence our experience a lot. How can humanity face and defeat a group that it is not even consciously aware of exists to begin with?  That's like having a non visible splinter in your foot, being in pain, but not knowing what the heck is causing it, and missing the real cause because you can't yet see it and a doctor tells you that it's something else or you're just imagining it.

  Well hey there Roger, a surprise to see you here.

That seems to be pretty much the standard reply of those in government, the intelligence community, higher positions in corporations, etc and especially agencies like the CIA, NSA, FBI, DIA, etc don't like people looking into their dark secrets.
      If fact, if one peruses CREST, one will find documents talking about how to minimize and marginalize those with innately good investigative and intuitive minds (like James Corbett) by using labels like conspiracy theorist and turning that into a dirty word and negative, extremist label to socially ostracize such individuals.  In fact, the origin and application of the term "conspiracy theorist" had it's origins in the CIA. 

  In any case, I'm still waiting for a good, impersonal debate on the below thread (I like to exercise my brain):

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1461289847   

    It's been a year plus, and I'm still waiting.    

    Yep Albert. I imagine there is probably a pretty wide spectrum of different views, beliefs, and opinions of folks on this forum towards this self, but I doubt too many think that I lack a brain/intelligence.

    In any case, I wonder why Roger talked a good game of smack about the events of 9/11, but when actually challenged to back up that, lo and behold, he was nowhere to be found.

Justin/Albert-

It's pointless to continue this discussion. You won't change my mind, I won't change yours.

Both of you perfectly fit the template of conspiracy buffs. You feel alienated from the larger society. You haven't succeeded in life. Albert had a tough time at FT, and paid the consequences for playing with his computer instead of doing his job, no matter how boring he claimed it was.

You've both developed a paranoid mindset, whether it's about evil reptilians or an evil government. It all fits. It's all there for anyone to see.

Justin, you troll the net to find other nut job websites that reinforce your twisted point of view.

Neither of you have anything of value to contribute to society. You spend inordinate amounts of time posting on this and other forums. Justin, you in particular post excruciatingly long, oleaginous screeds  that no one reads. Why not do something useful? Try again to join one of the meet-up groups in your area. You desperately want recognition, originating no doubt from your abusive childhood. You cling to forums such as this, trying endlessly to get plaudits. It just won't happen.

To sum up, you both are losers. Posting on forums is really your only outlet. Sad but all too true. The world is full of people who can't or won't do anything worthwhile. Some of them lash out with violence.

At least you're harmless. You have each other to reinforce your nonsense and forums where you can hyperventilate. And be ignored.

R

rondele wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 11:23am:


     Holy Moly, with talk like the above, you sound like our current President who most certainly is a malignant narcissist since you brought up narcissism earlier.  I don't think I've ever called another person a "loser".  I don't think in terms of "winning" and "losing" in such a limited, materialistic, and ego oriented way. 

    Btw, up until rather recently, I worked both a full time and part time job for the last 3 years.  Both jobs are intense service to others jobs. I did so, not so much for money--neither job pays very well, but more because I believe that positive service to others is important.

   Much more recently, I currently only work a part time job, and yes, do have more free time than I've had in a long time. I was feeling burnt out through working both, more intense, service to others jobs.

    I like writing on forums, because unlike other forms of writing and sharing of info, it stays out in the ether/internet lands as long as the forum and electricity continues and thus can reach more people.  Sometimes even more than writing a book.  And unlike a book, it's free for people to read.  I like that idea of giving away things for free. My Teacher Yeshua liked it too, he the original collectivist socialist.    
    Plus, the information shared comes from a place of spontaneous interaction with others--I happen to think that's pretty cool and interesting of a process. 

   It's clear that your true colors, that I've long sensed about you, are starting to come out more and more.  I won't say anything about you, except to note, you are one of those that really will not like what is coming to the world. There is always time though, if not to save the body, but to get on the side of truth, Love, ethics, and Light. We always welcome back everyone, no matter how far they have strayed or how much they have erred.
      You feeling it coming, don't you, on some deep, unconscious level, and it's bothering you, and you're not used to that.

    

Actually I'm reasonably good at intuition also.

Albert, you're a good guy. You'd be a good friend to have.

Justin, I obviously don't agree with you on most everything. I have a great affection for my country and am grateful for having been born in the U.S. I don't believe in conspiracy theories, especially 9/11, simply because there doesn't exist people clever enough to pull off such a massive undertaking with the ability to completely prevent any leaks after all this time. You give these unknown people far too much credit. All things considered, the government is only marginally competent.
And even that is questionable.

You rely way too much on websites that weave these conspiracies.

Otherwise we're all free to believe in what we choose and more importantly to openly express those beliefs. Try doing that in many other countries. It won't end well.

R