of greed, selfishness and materialism.  In many ways, it's reminiscent of the battles fought during different Atlantean cycles during periods of great change and conflict between the polarities.

   The following is a youtube video debate between Rachel Parent, a then 14 year old anti GMO activist and Kevin O'Leery, typical corporate businessman and materialist on the side of Monsanto. 

    At every turn when he is logically put in his place and corrected for the inaccurate info he presents, he starts to try to manipulate towards the, oh you don't care about the dying kids in Asia b.s.    As if Rachel lacks more heart than him and Monsanto. 

   He even calls her a shill!  Ain't that the kettle calling the pot black.  If anyone is getting paid here to promote a certain view, its definitely not intelligent, well informed and impassioned Rachel, it's Kevin O'Leery the guy who lectures on getting rich.   The irony. 

  Keep in mind that the backdrop for this video is the huge legal battles happening in different countries between huge mega corporation Monsanto and states, provinces, individual farmers and consumers/consumer activist groups regarding the issue of labeling of GMO food.

  Monsanto is expending every effort, and spending millions upon millions to force legislature to vote no labeling whatsoever.  They do not want us to know what is GMO and what is not.   

This is why Rachel keeps coming back to the issue of labeling and testing, though Kevin keeps trying to put her into a corner and make her look like an extremist, who is anti science and anti progress. 

Thank you Rachel for standing up to the bullies like Kevin and Monsanto.  Thank you for caring from the heart and trying to affect positive change.  Thank you for incarnating at this time to be of service to your fellow humans.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDOYYaZyj4

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   There isn't and hasn't been a lack of food in the world for the most part, and GMO crops to date do not produce significantly greater yields than non GMO crops. 

  The amount of food and crops that richer countries like America throw away each year is tremendous. 

   It's more a problem of distribution and politics, rather than raw materials and resources. 

    There are globalization forces in the world that want places like Africa to be weak and dependent and manipulate both policies in their own countries and within the countries within the African continent. 

Then there are the internal issues and strife's, which cause problems. 

   GMO crops is not an answer to this.  There are crops that are innately drought resistant, very nutritious and would do well in many places of Africa.  Such as Amaranth. 

  The answer is changing the policies within the North American and Euro countries whose corporations and governments take advantage of a weak and divided Africa, and teaching the African people by example how to fish, rather than occasionally handing them fish to use the old saying.

Monsanto does not give a crap about starving people anywhere, they care about one thing and one thing only, profit. 

They care so much about profit that they have engineered seeds to produce viable crops for only one planting/season, and after become sterile/non viable. 

The purpose?  To keep farmers and individuals dependent on them to buy seed every year from them.  They desire total control of the process.

  This is the same company that is most pushing GMO crops, and are we to trust them? 

  Ultimately, this is a spiritual issue and relates to problems of greed and selfishness, rather than a nature issue.   There is no easy fix for these problems, because as mentioned, it's a combination of both internal issues within those countries and the influence and pressures of countries from without with a lot more wealth, power, and influence and who see these other countries as $$$ with resources to exploit. 

  Ironically, when the world wide collapses comes, and when electricity is shut down in most places as it will be, it will be many of these so called 3rd world countries and the people within same that will fare better than 1st world countries and people in same. 

  The people in the former are not so divorced from the earth and the natural ways yet, and not so fully dependent on electricity, computers and the like.  Without the meddling of other nations, they will be able to regroup faster, though many everywhere will transition to the nonphysical. 

  One of the common tactics is by either supporting and helping corrupt regimes and dictators/rulers that keep those countries weak and the people divided.  They provide weapons, intel, mercenaries, money, drugs, etc to help in these efforts.

  Or, when a good leader arises, someone with the potential to unite people and bring about positive change, they either kill, imprison, or otherwise nullify their effect and replace them with people who can more easily be bought and influenced.  This doesn't happen in just African countries, but has happened and does happen around the world. 

  Such leaders then allow corporations to come in and plunder their natural resources like diamonds.  How does this relate to people growing their own food.  It's kind of hard to grow your own food, when skirmishes are constantly happening, when water is hard to obtain, when you can't afford seeds, and when the food that is being sent in often can't get in because of these corrupt groups taking it for themselves, destroying it, etc.

It's really hard to get your crap together when faced with so many different simultaneous challenges.

   That's the more extreme side of it.  The less extreme side are the groups that mean well, and try to help, but do so from giving fish, rather than teaching how to do same.   Such groups will come in, dig some wells, give some food, build some houses or shelters, etc, but once they are gone, and they always leave at some point, these very poor, uneducated people are left with a sense of dependency.  Nor do they have the know how or resources to fix the well pumps, etc once those groups are out of the scene. 

   Their should be a lot more focus on educating these folks on how to do for themselves, how to build their own wells, etc, etc.   

   Then there is the issue of hunting, because a lot of tribes in these countries are and have long been more hunting than purely agrarian type societies (some are and have been more agrarian though).   

  Poaching is such a big problem, and of course land development is a growing issue, that there are less resources aka animals to hunt for local food for the tribes.  Poaching is both an internal issue and an external issue.  Probably China is the worst influence as regards poaching, but many western countries are big contributors.  Lot's of rich people in all the above countries love having ivory, pelts, exotic meats, etc, etc from Africa and they will pay large sums to get same (often illegally too). 

   Since the poachers only care about the specific parts of the animals they are killing, they oft kill large amounts and leave much of the meat rotting.  Many, many more animals are killed for poaching and not local hunting for food purposes. 

    Obviously there needs to be much stronger world wide crack down on the black market of animal parts, and that relates to legal policies.  Politicians and policies are easily bought and influenced by money though. 

  In any case, to think that GMO foods will be a solution to people's food and starvation problems in these poorer and very manipulated countries, is the height of simplicity and nativity.  And we're only touching on the surface of the issues.

There are NO easy solutions and quick fixes, especially to the problems of many African countries.  But a good start would be to leave these people alone except for helpful purposes and aid (again, more in the form of teaching important skills). 

   

   

    

I wouldn't fully trust Trader Joes either, as it seems even some of the better companies are lying about some things.

  Whole Foods recently got in trouble for knowingly carrying and not labeling GMO foods, despite that their slogan is that they carry nothing artificial, etc. 

  GMO is most certainly artificial.  The PR person explaining their reasoning seemed to be using convoluted logic to defend this. 

  I've thought of boycotting Whole Foods, but it's a tough one, because it's still better to support them than most of the other chains i have access too.  There are some small, local natural food stores, and i try to support them when i can, but they are even pricier than Whole Foods with most things and i don't make much money. 

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Why do  they want places like Africa to be weak and dependent?
Isn't Africa weak and dependent anyway?

And what system of politics and distribution would work better or solve the problem?

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Personally I don't think genetically modified crops can possibly solve Africa's food problems. Africa has problems that precede its food problem. Africa's food problem is a result of the nature of African people. For instance, if all Africans were somehow given Australian natures, then Africa would soon rectify the problems it has now. And if us Australians were given African natures, then us Australians would very soon have the same problems that Africa has now.
   
But I do think that eventually down the track that genetically modified crops will be a small part of the African solution. But not before Africa's primary problems are faced, addressed and dealt with, by both Africans and others.

Of course there is risk associated with genetically modified crops as there are risks associated with everything - electricity, the motor car, general anaesthetic, vaccinations, and nearly every other technological development - but risks are dealt with as we identify them and progress continues. Such things are always opposed from some quarters.

In coming centuries genetic engineering of plant and animal life, including human life, is likely to become an established mainstream science regardless of present day protests, and risks will be managed and benefits had. That is the pattern of things.

Big persons and big organisations make big beneficial changes, and big mistakes and come up with big solutions. Such is life. Lawful mega-corporations and big business do not bother me. I have no reason to hate them / wish for their destruction, but many reasons to be thankful for a free capitalist system that allows their presence on this planet and that finances welfare systems. Big corporations have their downside, their inconveniences that need to be managed, but again, that is life. I know of no better economic system than a capitalist system with welfare provisions. 

Do I think big business cares more for profit than for people overall?

In many cases the care is more for profit, and in many cases the care is more for people. And that does not overly bother me. I see no reason to wish for the destruction of those with more wealth and power than myself, I see no reason to hate them; I see no reason to thank God (or source) in advance for the crashing down of my society. That would be an unhealthy fantasy of hateful wishful thinking. Hate is the desire to harm others or to see harm done.  

As for western capitalist governments and big business supposedly keeping Africa weak, supporting its corrupt troublesome leaders, supplying Africa with guns, and not supporting Africa's helpful leaders, well, a little discerning research and facing of facts can reveal the truth or not of that.

I am quite aware of the situation in Africa. I could detail much of it if I wanted to, its base causes, manifestations and contributions, all in facts and in their right order from cause to outcome, and logically explain and demonstrate why that is so, but such an effort would serve no purpose here.

Instead I leave it up to those who are interested to research and separate facts from sentiments.
To get started, such questions as these are not difficult to find answers to.

Which weapon is used across Africa for the most killing? Which next weapons are used mostly across Africa?
Where are the weapons in Africa manufactured?
Are the countries of gun manufacture democratic capitalist countries or are they socialist and communist countries? or recently struggling to transition from socialist to democracy and capitalism?
Which countries abstain from voting in the Arms Trade Treaty? Are any of these countries large arms exporters? are they socialist or democratic capitalist? And if they are exporters are they powerful or weak? Are any other countries that do not vote weaker neighbours of these countries? 
To which countries do the ships belong that bring the weapons to Africa? What sort of political systems do those countries have who own those ships? socialist or capitalist?
Where is the overland gun trade route - and which African and other countries does it go through?
What sort of political system do these countries have?
How do Africans pay for the weapons? What do they sell or supply and who do they sell it or supply it to, to get the money to buy the weapons / or to swap it for the weapons? 
Which country's ships transport such African goods?   
Which African leaders have been supported/assisted by capitalist western governments? And how much killing of their populations have those leaders overseen?
Which African leaders have been supported by dictatorships and socialist governments?  And how much killing of their populations have those African leaders overseen?
Which organisations are educating Africans in all manner of society building? in basic education, skills, trades, and professions? (including of course wells and agriculture) And in what countries are most of those organisations based? Are they socialist or capitalist countries?
Who finances most of those aide organisations? Who administrates them. and from which countries, and who works for them in Africa? on both paid and volunteer basis? 
How prevalent are such aide/medical/educational organisations on the ground in Africa? How many such aide/medical/educational organisations and their workers and volunteers come from socialist countries, and how many come from capitalist countries?
And so on...
Collect these overall views, not just a few individual examples of failings, and obtain an overall view of the situation.
I know well the answers to these questions as they are quite basic, and I don't mind the facts of the matter.
Other readers may feel like researching such matters too, and might find that capitalist nations and their big businesses are indeed orchestrating the suffering in Africa, or they might find out something else. Its up to them.
It doesn't take much to see the truth, for those who want to see it. 

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Justin, you don't just pick on capitalist forces and western establishment; you frequently celebrate its imagined future destruction, and you do so with your god. 

Can you face the real reason why you do this, the internal condition, not the external excuses for it?

Gee, that's quite a post Justin.

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(For any reader who does not know, Yeshua is a particular speak for Jesus.)

All us conservatives/libertarians/right-wingers/materialists/capitalists/big businessmen could be murdered tomorrow and all you would have left would be an oppressive Stalinist state.

Socialism it two tiered, the equalised and above them the equalisers who enforce the equality.

Socialists always fancy they will be amongst the equalisers, not the equalised, because they are elitist hypocrites who really crave power over others.

Look through history. Prior to every socialist revolution there are growing numbers of people foretelling the deaths and destruction of wealthy people by some great strange intervention. Then, in every instance where these "caring, good people" who believe in equality get into power they start their mass murder. They form into two groups, those who do the killing and those who stand about looking innocent and feigning pity for those who have to be killed, and being thankful for the "change for the better".

Look at the Soviet Socialists, the German National Socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists - they all murdered those on the edges of their socio-economic bell curves, there is no exception to this because mass murder and oppression is innate within the equality/egalitarian mindset (socialist thought). The mindset is sick and when it becomes collective and obtains power it manifests its sick desires onto society. Socialists always even murder all their minority groups whom they seduced to gain the numbers to get into power in the first place. The mindset is hypocritical and delusional.  

A society cannot be compressed into equalisation, only pruned back to equalisation through mass murder and by oppressive power. And then its not equal anyway, because its two tiered, the oppressors who maintain the equality, and the rest whom they keep equal.

The hatred of materialism is the rabid love of materialism in denial.

The hate of other’s having greater wealth is not a virtue; it is just jealousy, a superior self appointment of another kind.   

Jealousy drives hatred, though hatred can also drive itself.

Jealousy often pretends to be love and caring, but its not; it is just craving and hatred combined.

Some people’s caring for one group is just a false front for hatred of another group. This is common amongst those afflicted with equalising mindsets (socialists) as is proved when they get power and murder both groups - the wealthy and the poor who cannot work and the minorities they claimed to care for.

Socialists hate natural bell curves, and in power they have always murdered those on the edges, starting with those in the leading edge and then those in the lower edge. After murdering all the wealthy, Stalin's socialists murdered tens of millions of their own peasants to prune their idealic society into shape and make society "equal".  

As hate by definition is the desire to harm or hurt others or to see them harmed or hurt, then thanking “source/God” in advance for destroying wealthy westerners is by definition just a hateful fantasy combined with an unhealthy spirituality.

“Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.”
Nelson Mandela, about black resentment towards whites.

Leftism is not driven ideologically but psychologically.