I am having a hard time! Essentially I feel like a cardboard cut out in hopes of a helper or guide will use me for a retrieval, a easy one.

Only a few times I have had some form of visual perception, but most I feel like I am giing in "blind". I am constantly focusing on other sense, touch, feeling, etc. But having a hard time because I do not have anything to measure it by. I do not know if it is me or my non physical body.

Of course I am workign on the visual perception, and trying to figure out where best to focus my eyes when closed....  

As far as hearing, not a word, so I ask simple questions, and take the 1st thing that pops up in my head in hopes it is right.

Retrievals are a big deal for me.

Oh BTW I suffer from performance anxiety. 

Brian

Hi Brian,

Could you paraphrase what you said about "I do not know if it is me or my non physical body.” I’m not sure what you mean--sorry.

I’ve heard that if you point your eyes out to about 18” from your face and about 6” higher than your eye level, that that is a good place to have them.

If you are relaxed and rested when you plan to go into this mode, I expect it will happen. You are an entire entity and so don’t much need to separate your thoughts into parts. The quieter you get your brain, the better.

Bets

Brian P,

Thank you for wanting to help in retrieving...and it's that desire of yours that will win out.

When I was getting started many years ago I had zero results. I just seemed to be floating in that peaceful nothingness, waiting for a Helper or friend or somebody to get things going. After several floats with the entire nonphysical universe(s) a no-show (I was so bummed out...lol), I remembered Bruce talking about starting his own place in Focus 27 where he was able to familiarize himself with being There, and using nonphysical senses to communicate.
The next time I journeyed into the nonphysical, instead of waiting for someone or something to get the ball rolling, I placed the intention to be in Focus 27, and although I was still in blackness I decided to just go with it and visual a city park I loved as a child to build my safe place, just for me. And I walked into it and started a landscaping project that to this day is a fun work in progress.

It wasn't until around a year later that I realized what I had been doing wrong and what got me around that road block. Helpers actually informed me that when I had been floating and waiting, they had been right there with me, waiting for me to stop waiting for them to initiate something. Nowadays I can wait and pick up on when a Helper arrives, but I know one will come. Back in the day the nonphysical was this immense and unknowable whatever and I had no idea how to deal with all that nonphysicalness, if that makes sense. So I decided to take action and narrow it all down to something I was familiar with. Those Helpers said they got a big kick out of my lack of awareness of them as I floated, and they can laugh at and love us because they've been through it and understand. For me it was an invaluable lesson.

Learning to use nonphysical senses takes time, Brian. The five physical senses are turned off so it can be disconcerting, but I ended up really enjoying the challenge. Still do. Rely upon a feeling of a presence and any mind's eye visualization that comes as a result of that feeling. Relax and have fun with it. When an idea or thought comes to you just focus on it, silently willing yourself to open to it nonjudgementally. Sensing, feeling, thoughts, visualizations, knowings, those are the senses.

Hope this helps, Brian and much love,

Ginny

betson wrote on May 31^st, 2013 at 4:29am:


I was trying to figure out if it was my physical body or energy body. Sometimes it felt like I was being touch by someone.

I find when I let go of all control things happen. Not usually what I thought might happen but things that benefit me do