I believe there is the possibility that if one takes part in such an activity one might end up making a connection to unfriendly beings that they otherwise might not have made a connection to.

Then perhaps a better idea is to ask such divine guidance for information, rather bringing one's consciousness to where unfriendlies are.

I don't know if it's good to get involved with unfriendlies and then ask the good guys to help out. It might not be that simple. If a person can simply ask for help, then why do some people need the help of other people in order to deal with unfriendlies? Sometimes a middleman is needed.

Plus, consider people who channel misleading beings.  They set the intent of hooking up with a friendly being and they end up channeling an unfriendly being.

I believe things are more complicated than simply asking for help from the good guys. It is also a matter of being able to tell whether an actual friendly being is providing the help.

  I should add that with saying any prayer or affirmation, it requires, to be more fully effective, real feeling and sincerity involved.   

  If one mumbles some words by rote or just reads some words of a screen or a paper..., without any deeper feeling, without really having those intentions, etc. then yes, in such cases such prayers and affirmations may not be as effective.  Feeling it is important, and feeling is what connects to the intention and increases the strength of said intention. 

   What i'm talking about is no different than you having questions and concerns with ACIM and then "praying" to God and to Christ to get answers from same. Did you expect, well i'm not going to connect to God and to Christ and i will probably get false info from false sources.  No, you had faith that your request and intention, since it was sincere and helpful in nature, would be granted. 

Those helpful sources are there for anyone who sincerely asks for and wants there help, and especially if one is doing so with helpful intentions.   

  Part of what made Cayce's work somewhat unique was that even as a younger child, Edgar prayed to God and to Christ very sincerely to be a channel of help to others.  That request and prayer, because it was sincere and deeply felt, was not only immediately answered in the form of an "Angel" appearing to him not long after said prayer, BUT also later on answered in him getting involved with the psychic Readings he gave. 

  And before every Reading he attempted and gave, he prayed sincerely to God and to Christ--reaffirming his childhood intentions and prayers.   The Guidance that relayed info through him, did plainly state on occasion that much more spirituality and balance was needed in his life if he was to be a more clear, helpful, and accurate channel.  However, his personal lacks did not get in the way of him connecting to those more purely helpful sources to begin with, just added static to the transmission and reception.   

betson wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:


  The above is a misinterpretation.  The reason that in-physicals are involved with retrieving of those stuck between physical and 'nonphysical', is because we can be more easily perceived by said stuck folks than they can perceive the helpers in the more expanded dimensions. 

    We can act as a bridge of perception between said stuck folks and helpers.   

     Some of us here are not so stuck, and are consciously aware of more expanded dimensions and individuated consciousnesses in same.  There is no difficulty at all for the most expanded Consciousnesses to shield and protect us from even the strongest and most negative beings.  See my wife's powerful retrieval dream--once she called for help, she was immediately and completely helped.   

   

   As regards the rest and other things you said, these words are not to you personally, but spoken more to the collective and not solely of and from me.  Many of you are helpers in the flesh.  Before you is an opportunity to help humanity by becoming aware of hindering forces more directly, and thus in turn can help raise awareness of same by and through your own experience and talking openly of same.   Will you leave it up to those like David Icke to spread this awareness--people that most of society will not take seriously in the least bit? 

   Do you expect to be helpers, and not self sacrifice some?   You bandy about the terms of PUL, well i say to you all, you are not fit to use the term of PUL if you cannot sacrifice for others and for humanity, if you cannot put self on the line.  If you do not follow in The Teacher's footsteps and path, then do not think of self as a helper, for real helpers care more about the Whole than their little selves.   

  It is easy to be apathetic in this world and to think, "oh, well someone else will come around to do these things, why should i?"   

That was never the attitude that your elder brother ever took, and he always cared more about your happiness and well being than his own, and gave up his little will and cares for his little self so that everyone one of you could be happy and Whole.  The constant prayer of, "Others, always others."

  There is ever strength in numbers, in unity of purpose, there is no reason to fear anything if you have helpful intentions and sincerely ask for the help of those who are far more powerful than yourself or any wayward brothers.  Fear and the constant thought of and for the little self is your hindrance, and what keeps you stuck and unhappy!  Love would liberate you if you would but choose it.

   Would you be free by helping to liberate others, or would you stay stuck and unhappy?  Nothing stands in the way of you fulfilling your destiny and birthright except self.  These may seem hard words, but these are hard times and this World needs everyone of helpful and loving intent.  This channel that speaks to you now, has seen a possible future wherein this hindering group gets what it covets, and I, your elder brother beseech you to help me with this heavy weight of the world and it's needs. 

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??? Really?

On two occasions during the past few days I had experiences related to unfriendly aliens. I didn't try to have them. I guess my higher self/spirit guidance wanted me to have them.

On one occasion I was like in a dark place and I could see tall buildings with lights. The architecture didn't look like architecture I've seen in this World. There were these insect like aliens that were interferring with this World in a negative way.

I had another experience this morning. I was with people who are being troubled by unfriendly aliens. I couldn't say what the nature of these aliens were. It felt as if such troubles "could" happen more in the future than they do now. I wrote "could" rather than "will" because when I asked "when" I didn't receive an answer. Perhaps I was being told of a possibility that is partially dependent upon what people do.

In each of the above cases I didn't receive information that I could verify with others. I believe it is more of a matter of people connecting with guidance they know they can trust and finding out from this guidance.

  Hi Lucy,

  I also don't have good visualization abilities, and don't tend to get much info in the form of images, etc. except for in dreams.  (i do occasionally get visuals during meditation, etc, but it's somewhat rare)

  I tend to receive info more in the manner of feeling-thought impressions, which i then translate to word concepts.  It tends to be more subtle than having images, etc. appear.
  One of my earlier blocks in practcing this kind of stuff was expecting the info to come in certain ways, like in vivid images and the like.  Once i let go of such preconceptions and just learned to quiet my mind and listen in an open way, i started to receive more info (some of which i've had definite verifications with). 

  Perhaps yours is a similar case, perhaps you are expecting the info to come in a certain way, and are't paying attention to the more subtle feeling and thought impressions?  Pay attention to those more "out of the blue" thoughts you have while practicing these things. 

  You can also specifically ask your guidance to help you with perceiving more clearly, (but again with no preconceptions of how this will actually take form).  Practicing Bruce's remembering the feeling of Love technique, as well as remembering or bringing up feelings of Gratitude also help one to perceive guidance messages more clearly.

  Also, for most, it's one of those things that you just have to practice and plug away at, and you slowly but surely get better in sensing and receiving these impressions.  I think you have more potential and ability than you perhaps give yourself credit for. 

  Interesting about Mr. Schwartz.  Your welcome Lucy, while i know i sometimes rub you the wrong way (i'm *very* aware of this, though i don't ever mean to cause those feelings and reactions), you hold a fond place in my heart and i ever want to see you happy and at peace.  I know that peace often eludes you, and you often feel quite confused about it all, a very Gemini and Aries kind of experience sometimes.

Sometimes to get there, one needs their shadow stirred up some so they can become more conscious of those aspects of self.  It was a method that my teacher used both consciously and which also just happened naturally and unconsciously.

  And it's ok to be fully honest and upfront with me.  If you feel a certain way then "let it out" and don't worry about what the group may think or say.  You wouldn't be the first, nor the last to think of or call me a deluded, Messiah complexed Ahole or the like.     It's truly OK.  That honesty and directness in communication will help to open up your Heart.  You keep far too much to yourself and less out of wisdom but more out of social concern.

   I'm still going through my own growing pains (and sometimes truly am an ahole), but perhaps someday you and others will know that i am the real deal.  I've questioned self many times about this, this is why i consulted with other, more objective outside sources like the psychics/sensitives Lynn, Carolene, and Caryl, all people well vouched for by people and sources i respect.  They all indicated in their readings, that i am the real deal and confirmed all the various messages i've received about self from Guidance. 

  Like my Teacher, i've come so that all of you may be free, but real teachers challenge you to grow more, and challenge and growth is not always what our conscious personalities want.  That's why they strung my Teacher up.


  "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.."

Hi Vee,  Sorry to interrupt, but I just noticed Justin is gone...why did he leave?

Vee wrote on Mar 7^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:


  Bob was just a Helper, he was not a "He/She" type (Expanded Guidance in the flesh).   In any case, what you say in the above about Bob is incorrect.  He, or rather his guidance clearly states in his 3rd book, Ultimate Journey that there were hindering E.T,'s that are involved with this world and with humans, but his "I/There" told him that he needed to get over his fear of these and that he was pretty safe from being influenced. 

   Re: what you said about negative E.T.'s not existing because this world has not been obviously/overtly attacked yet.   Are you familiar with Rosiland A. McKnight and her work?  She was one of Bob's "explorers" back in his lab.  Her Guidance, in her book "Cosmic Journeys" very, very clearly talked about a negative E.T. group with unfriendly intentions towards us, and  indicated that in the future they would try to overtly attack us and that there would be a war between us.  Her Guidance said that we would get help from the more loving and positive E.T.'s while this was happening.

    Her guidance also said that currently we are being protected by powerful sources because we are not yet prepared technologically nor spiritually to go up against them directly yet.

In a sense, we are like children who are having their hands held by adults and being protected from getting beat up by the bullies that want to take our lunch money.  While they can't forcefully try to take it from us yet, they have tried to get to us in other, less direct ways, and they are allowed to do so by the spiritual PTB that are protecting us from direct interference.  If they allowed this direct interference now, it would be a massacre plain and simple--we would have no chance whatsoever.

    Both my guidance, and my wife's have confirmed Rosiland's work and info in different and numerous ways.  For example, even before Becky read Rosiland's book, Cosmic Journeys (which is the book which talks about this), she had two separate dreams, separated by a period of time, but both dreams were a continuation.  In both dreams, she knew she in a future lifetime, in a different body than now (but the same body in the two dreams), and there was a war going on between humanity and a particular E.T. group.  Humanity was interacting with many groups at the time, and was getting some help and info from the spiritual and friendly groups.

While these two separated, but continuing dreams were not nightmares, they were not lite dreams by any means.  It was a definite, out and out war, and we were fighting for our very existence or freedom as a species. 

  Having a lack of guidance on something, or an issue, does not equate to knowledge.  Some who have not received such messages as we and Rosiland have, think there is no issue because they haven't received such messages.

   Dr. John Mack, the Harvard psychologist who put his considerable reputation on the line with his research with his patients with E.T. contacts and experiences, wrote in his 2nd book, Passport to the Cosmos that some of his patients had had troubling experiences with E.T.'s that appeared Reptilian humanoid, but when they sent them Love it repelled them.

  Remote viewer Courtney Brown Phd, who took the Gateway Voyage program at TMI, and who set up an Institute of his own called Farsight Institute and recruited and/or trained other Remote Viewers, well both he and these other remote viewers had experiences with an unfriendly and ill intentioned E.T. group, and at one point were being psychically attacked by them and some of the Remote Viewers experienced headaches and other issues.  When they called on more Divine type help, they were able to get the info they were looking for and were protected from the psychic attacks.

  His 2nd book, "Cosmic Explorers" is available on his site for free download.  While not a 100 percent accurate, it's a good reference point. 

   I appreciate your interest in the P.E. and this subject.  However, it seems you have already made up your mind about the issue.  I have as well, but only because my wife and i have received numerous, clear messages about this group, their intentions, their methods, their contacts with the earth.  This P.E. is not for my benefit or interest personally, but an attempt to help others wake up to this issue so that we can better counter balance their attempt to limit us. 
   
  I was especially hoping that the founder of this site would take part in same, because he has a lot of "clout" here, and if he talks openly about his messages and experiences about this (if he would seek it)--then others would be inspired and be more open minded to receiving their own guidance about it. 

I'm not a published author, i don't own a site, i'm at times odd acting and talking here, i've only been to one TMI program ,  etc, etc.  Unless people are really  more tuned into their own, expanded levels of guidance, they won't really listen to me because to some (most?)  i sound too crazy, out there, unbalanced, or what not. 

  I need help in this, my teacher needs help in this, we all need help in this. 

  Expanded Guidance levels are quite concerned about this whole issue--especially those positive and Love attuned E.T. groups who are VERY aware of this negative group and their plans, intentions, etc.  They are trying to get the message out but there are too few  humans open and receptive enough for them to work with re: this issue.

There is potentially a lot of fear involved with this topic--especially social fear, "man, i don't want to talk about negative E.T.'s that are trying to take over the Earth, what will people think about me?  I don't want people to think i'm crazy!  What if they think of me as, or call me the dreaded 'fear mongerer'?"   That's just the social part of it, what about the general fear of the unknown, or fear of being psychically attacked. etc, etc, etc, etc.   Fear, fear, fear, fear and on many different levels. 



 

 

   

   

Vee wrote on Mar 8^th, 2012 at 11:43am:


  Hi Vee...hmm not sure how to address the above.  See my just previous post to Vicky.  I left because i wanted to focus on writing a book, i'm going to delete this account as well, but when i'm done with the book i will come back. 

   It had nothing to do with any interpersonal forum interactions or personality reactions whatsoever.  I left the forum in good spirits, though a wee bit frustrated in one area if truth be told, but even that wasn't really a personal, personality thing so much. 

   As far as ego and all that goes, one of the most egoless people i know about, Yeshua whom i consider my Teacher, had an interesting pattern to look at.  On one hand, he didn't oft talk all that much about self, and yet sometimes he made some seemingly grandiose statements about himself.  What an odd ball and sometimes downright confusing man he was.

  He sometimes liked to shock and rouse people (as a teaching method), and he was/is a very truthful guy who was not concerned about any kind of image. 

  Plenty of people think plenty egotistical and high minded thoughts about self, but rarely ever say anything outloud because of social fear and an unconscious need to protect a certain, "spiritual" image.  Like my teacher, i have no such compunctions and truthfully speak my mind and heart, as i feel moved. 

   My advice to the forum and to folks in general, be more wary of the silent egotists than the loud mouth, honest open ones, because it's usually the silent ones you have to worry about more so.  Especially be discerning towards those who have something to sell you (especially if there livelihood depends on it in any way).  Currently and for a long time, i have had nothing to sell, and even when i finish my book, i plan to sell it for quite cheap as an e-book (my wife is not too happy about that, she thinks i should charge a minimum of 5 dollars).  Why, because i don't care much at all about money (never really have) and have a regular job anyways, and for me it's about the messages getting out there. 

  So, off to finish this book, deleting this account, and see you all later (probably in a month or two).

 
  P.S., Oh YES btw, Bob the fairly old Soul and i probably would have had issues.  In some ways, Bob was more that silent egotist type, which is why a number of people more emotionally close to him sometimes complained about his rather controlling side.  Sure, with people he wasn't close to, he was quite "hands off" and detached (some might say too much so because he didn't like certain forms of responsibility and he kept self very guarded) and told people "go have your own experiences" and all that very lovely philosophy about getting ones own guidance.  He was good at playing the anti-guru, guru. 

Bob was essentially practicing the relative Golden Rule, because Bob had issues with authority and with people preaching to him, giving him advice, etc.  Because he so disliked others doing that to him, he refrained from doing that to others (especially those not emotionally close to him).

  See, i'm a long time astrologer and intuitive, and Bob is an open book, and while i have a lot of respect for the man and his service to others, i've taken him off the pedestal. 

   Let's take all the Bob's of the world off the pedestals, and if we are to have any pedestals at all, then let's be sensible and practical and put the "He/She's" and Yeshua's up there at least, for these were/are fully constructive, fully aware, fully intune with Source.  Did not Yeshua live a rather different life pattern than the vaunted Bob Monroe?  Didn't he interact in a very different way with people while publicly teaching.   

   Settling for any less, and we're just limiting ourselves in the long run, because humanity doesn't tend to grow past those we hoist up on pedestals, for their limits become our limits. As a species we are notorious followers and that's not about to radically change, but we can always aim higher. 

Oliver:

I don't believe that Jesus wants to be worshiped or put on a pedestal. Certainly wise people and beings can inspire others without such foolishness.

Vee:

I've received information stating that unfriendly aliens are involved with this World and that they "might" attack in the future.  I say "might" because when I receive information about the future it is hard to tell if I'm being told about possibilities or actualities.

Even though there are a number of questionable sources that speak about unfriendly alien interactions with this World, some of them seem trustworthy to me.

As Justin said, in "Ultimate Journey" Robert Monroe wrote that he was told by his I-there that unfriendly influences both human and non-human have been involved with this World for years.

Crud, that quote/edit thing happened again. That ex-member Justin is causing some real problems.

There's an old alchemist saying that goes something liek this:

The eye is more inclined to see what is behind it than what is in front of it.

Now, in many instances, it is more convenient to go along with what is bhind the eye because that is also our link to culture and gives us a way to connect to toher people. But that doesn't mean it is etched in stone.

So, if I do see aliens, or don't see aliens, which way is the Interpretor having full sway? If I got rid of the Interpretor, what would be there? Maybe we'd only have Nothingness without the Interpretor.

But we are back to the old picture of the two faces that also can look like a vase. I don't think we clearly understand why that happens. If we did, maybe we would understand why some people see aliens and others don't.

How can you tell that the negative aliens are not just a projection of some inner fear?

sorry about the typo's; hope things make sense anyway; the website isn't giving me the option to modify. Outlook has spoiled me for proofreading!

tgecks wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

It's Focus 34/35. Focus 33 is something slightly different, a level of Creation according to Skip Atwater -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_levels

Also Focus 33 is the first important Focus Level outside the ELS according to Atwater.

According to Frank DeMarco's TGU in his book The Spehere and Hologram, Focus 34/35 is the outmost Focus Level where we can bring back anything understandable. What little is brought back and explainable with our 5 ordinary sense is worth something of value. But Moen probably managed to travel even further in his 4th book, so just go as far as you want to.

Focus 34/35 is also the lowest level many (non-physical?) beings can approach the ELS, without having to be drawn in, in the cycle of being reborn again and again, losing escape velocity in Monroe's terms.

Just some 2 c's, but without warranty.

I probably suck at PE, I get so few successes.

PauliEffectt wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:


  Hi PauliEffectt,

  Thank you for the spelling correction of Rosalind's name.  I knew her as a friend, and usually thought of her as "Rosie", and apparently i projected that some into the use of her given birth name.

  Re: your specific question, I cannot tell you the exact page, as i lent out my copy a long time ago, and never got it back.  But, I did some research and found some excerpts on scribd of her book, and found the reference i was looking to under the chapter of "Travel to the Year 3000".   It's not that far into that chapter.  Read carefully, and you will find it.  It's amazing how easy it is to miss or gloss over certain information under certain circumstances and conditions.     What is the saying, "When the student is ready, the teacher appears." 

  I would copy and paste the text here, but i think that may still be copy righted material and that is grounds for being banned here. My wife and Twin Soul, Becky, had two separate dreams, spaced over a time which were a continuation on a theme.  In both dreams, she was in a future lifetime and body, and there was a war going on with an unfriendly, ill intentioned E.T. group during a period wherein there was A LOT of contact and communication with various E.T. groups.  In the dream, future "Becky" got help from some helpful intentioned E.T.'s. 

  It was like the dream came right out of Rosalind's guidance session, except that she had the first dream before she even read her book. 

  I will point out generally speaking, of all the TMI Explorers, including Bob Monroe himself, it was Rosie's guidance sessions which have been the most accurate so far as regarding the Earth changes and collapses so far in relation to time. 

  I believe this is because she was a more clear channel and in touch with some very expanded levels of Guidance.  Bob, Tom Campbell, and all the others whose information is available to hear and look at, were quite off on the timing of the manifestation of these events. 

  However, both Rosie's guidance and info, along with Cayce's, said no, even by 1998 this would still be a gradual development and not catastrophic in the Earth by this point.  Tom and "Thor" said it was going to happen in the 80's, Bob thought some of it would take place by the start of the 21st century, etc.  "Helpers" have a hard time with time.  The most Expanded level of Guidance, those like "He/She" who still interacts with humanity in a physical like way, well these have a much better grasp of linear time and development since they are fully aware of ALL consciousness, of all energy levels. 

P.S., more personally and to the group in general, I'm still writing, but close to being finished with the rough draft, so I may as well keep this account going.  Becky is going to go over and edit it sooner than later i hope, and then shortly after this is done, i will submit it for publishing. 

  Re: Rosie's book, It seems like the info given in the above was a bit understated, but that is probably because expanded Guidance didn't want to overly frighten people in regards to this group and their influence.   We are now at a point in time in our collective evolution, wherein more of us are ready to hear more about these so that we can act as a counter balance. 

  Of course seek your own inner guidance on it, but i really urge you to do so under the ideal circumstances.  With a specific prayer and affirmation of deeply desiring and asking for the help and guidance of only the most PUL attuned and spiritually helpful, constructive, creative sources there are. 

  Then, in combination, practice Bruce's "Remembering the feeling of Love" (and/or Gratitude technique) in order to strengthen that connection and to block any possible interference and also to make such communication from such sources easier to perceive.  For, many of us are a bit in the same boat as some of those who are stuck and we try to retrieve in the sense that the most expanded Guidance can be difficult for us to perceive unless we raise our vibratory patterns above our "normal" or average.  Just as stuck folk often have a hard time perceiving regular old helpers. 

  I'm not completely sure, but i believe there may be also be another reference to this ill intentioned E.T. group in another part of Rosie's book.  It's been quite awhile since i read it. 

  LOL another normal post without a link...  (see next reply of mine for the link).

I'm at work so I can't look at my copy of "Cosmic Journeys" now, but I remember it saying that unfriendly aliens planted implants in a bunch of people, and the being who spoke through Rosalie said that we (friendly aliens?) can use the implants too.

One night I watched the movie Communion. Christopher Walken played Whitley Strieber (an alien abduction victim). Later that night I was laying in bed awake and suddenly I saw an image of Christopher Walken.  He said with a very intent look on his face, "It's a fact!" Then I was shown an image of an unfriendly looking alien. I believe I was being told that unfriendly aliens have abducted people.

I've received a number of messages both waking and while asleep that made the point that unfriendly aliens are involved with this World.

What can be done about it? If we grow in love we can help elevate this World's vibrational rate and this counters what unfriendly aliens are trying to accomplish.

If we allow ourselves to be a bit more dynamic we won't sit by idly as unfriendly beings use various sources of false information (such as channeled sources and the gurus they control) to interfere with the spiritual progress of people who could've helped elevate this World to a higher consciousness level more than they have if they weren't limited by the false ideas that come from misleading sources. People who are misled in such a way aren't anymore hip about what's going on for themselves than a confused religious fundamentalist.

It isn't a matter of interferring with the free will of the people we try to enlighten about misleading sources. It is about not allowing deceptive beings to interfere with the free will of the people they fool in various ways.

It is also possible that if a person develops himself (or herself) sufficiently enough he'll be able to help out at levels of being beyond this physical World.

I believe it is possible that when many people finish their incarnation in this World they will find out that before they incarnated here they had hoped to help counter negative influences and as a result help this World become a better place. After remembering this they will be dissapointed that they weren't more dynamic than they were. They will regret that they allowed deceptive beings to mislead them through the various sources that serve such an end.

I know that some people say that we don't have to worry about being misled because our higher selves will take care of things, but considering how many people do get misled and the state of this World, it doesn't seem as if people are listening to their higher selves as much as they believe. Perhaps people need to apply themselves more than they have.

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  Hi Oliver,

  Perhaps you still read this board?  I'm writing this with the hopes that you do.  As far as the above, I completely agree with you.  Ideally, we would not put anyone on any pedestals and we would seek only to awaken that Christ Consciousnesss within by growing in Love.  This process, here and while in a physical, human body seems to be difficult to complete though to put it mildly.   

  However, it's very obvious to me that humanity and many people have a very long history of putting others on pedestals in some manner or fashion.  Humanity, and most humans are essentially followers.  A truly independently thinking and acting person is extremely rare indeed.  And even those who are, are to some extent or degree influenced by others whether from within or without. 

   This isn't about to change dramatically, just because folks like you, Albert, and myself would like it to. 

  It's clear to me that many have put people like Bob Monroe, Edgar Cayce, Tom Campbell, Bruce Moen, and others up on some pedestals.  What i was saying is that if one is going to pattern their life and self after someone else, then why not aim higher and look more towards those who had completed themselves--people like "He/She" of Bob's 3rd Book?

  As i've said earlier, when we do put someone else in a position of authority, wisdom, and guidance, their limits tend to become our limits.  It's a type of "Frequency following response" you could say.     Another way of saying it, is, "Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like".  The only way to get out of one's normal pattern, is to aim higher than one's natural "like attracts and resonates with like" pattern. 

   To me, it makes more sense to look more to those who are limitless, like He/She.  If one patterns their life after examples like these, and learn from these individuals and these examples, then eventually one will through wise, constructive use of their own freewill, liberate themselves.   For only those who have liberated themselves, can truly and effectively act as a liberatating influence for others. 

  This does not mean that one should stop seeking expanded guidance from within.  If anything, this becomes more important to do. One should always ask expanded guidance under the ideal circumstances and with no preconcpetions, if a particular teacher or example is the real deal or not.

  It's a balance of seeking expanded guidance within, and being influenced by outer sources and influences.  If not, then people like He/She would not have incarnated here or otherwise come here and manifested in a physical like way.  They would have stayed as invisible "nonphysical guidance" the whole time.  We influence others more than we tend to think, especially the lower entropy our patterns become. 

   Occasionally, once in a great while, someone fully attuned with Love and very low entropy shows up to example what this really and truly and fully looks like.  When these come, they do not ask, nor do they want to be put on any kind of pedestal, but they do ask that others pay attention to their teachings and examples with the hope that others will be inspired to become like them.

  For, living as they live, is the only way out of this limited box we find ourselves in.  We all have that same potential to become like He/She, but most of us do not really fully grasp what PUUL is completely about, let alone do we truly live it. 

If we did, then we would be like He/She as well, and we're not because we don't live and choose like He/She lives and chooses.  Hence, we all can learn from He/She and those similar. 

   But instead, so often do we put lesser examples and patterns up above us, folks like Bob Monroe, Bruce Moen, Edgar Cayce, Tom Campbell.  We tend to become overly attached to them and their personalities, their experiences, their teachings and messages, and while many of these teach plenty of accurate and helpful things, all who are not like He/She have errors of perceptions, have limited beliefs, and teach limitations if not by words, but by example. 

  These cannot truly set others free (by their influence and example), until they fully set themselves free.  It would be good for all to remember the Universal Law of Like attracts, begets, and resonates with Like and how much it determines so many of our beliefs, perceptions, likes, associations, interactions, etc.

  Besides the chapter called "Travel to the Year 3000", Rosalind in her guidance sessions also talks about a hindering E.T. group in the Chapter called, "To the Moon & a Spaceship."

  Your welcome PauliEffectt, and thank you for pointing out the specific pages for others.  That was one of my favorite nonphysical type books of all times. 

   You might find this a bit interesting, or not.  When i first started talking to Rosie, i got the sense that there was a strong connection between her and my wife Becky.  I asked Rosie for her birth time and data so i could do a full chart.  Then when i compared their charts, i was fully convinced there was some strong connection there.   

    After we met up for lunch the first time, i briefly mentioned my intuitive feeling, and she confirmed that she indeed did feel a strong connection to Becky. 

  For awhile, i wondered if they were part of the same Disk or not.   Just recently, i decided to take this question to expanded guidance during meditation.  I asked and was told, No, and then i asked did Becky's "Disk" have another self and lifetime during that time, whom knew Rosalind and Bob Monroe. 

  I almost immediately got a name that i vaguely and barely remembered that i had seen before, "Melissa Jager".   After i received the name, i remembered that Melissa Jager and Bob Monroe had had a falling out.  It seems, with a little research, that Rosalind though, had a really good opinion of Melissa and referred to her as very talented and resourceful person.  She must have been, since she was the director of training for over 7 years back in the earlier days. 

   I sometimes wonder what my deeper connection to Rosie was, besides my Twin Soul's connection to her.  For she felt like an old friend and sister--we even had the same birthday and Moon sign.