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Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 11:30am
 
Could u just write a summary as I don't want to read a 10 pages doc.
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Reply #2 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 12:56pm
 
PauliEffectt wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 11:30am:
Could u just write a summary as I don't want to read a 10 pages doc.


Oh come on, a 10 page attachment can't be that bad.  Tongue
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Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:07pm
 
Could some Moderator please find out if these posts are promotions, religious spam, copying of books or commercial PR?
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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 10:17am
 
PauliEffectt wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:07pm:
Could some Moderator please find out if these posts are promotions, religious spam, copying of books or commercial PR?


Are you kidding me? If you have actually read all of posts, you'll know it is all over the place. I do reference books and give credit with the act of citing my sources as well as give my own personal input to those quotes. Your notion of "copying of books" amuses me as it makes me question your amount of knowledge pertaining to the afterlife, paranormal, New Age, etc.
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Reply #5 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 10:19am
 
PauliEffectt wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 11:30am:
Could u just write a summary as I don't want to read a 10 pages doc.


This reminds me of students in school these days who don't want to read but think they can get Cliffnotes version.
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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 2:14pm
 
serenesam,

"This reminds me of students in school these days who don't want to read but think they can get Cliffnotes version."

Reading a couple of lines of alloya I was bored out of my tits, so skipped it. But I would make a guess that you're not an informational bellboy. Technology has brought forward widespread laziness. So, anyways, be a dear and compress the 10 pages into a sentence for me while my guitar gently yawns. Wink
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 2:43pm
 
It doesn't take a genius IQ to sniff out a scam as blatant as this one.

She should change her last name to Huckster.

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Reply #8 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 8:15pm
 
Rondelle:

The same thought came to me when I saw the same advertisement at the below forum.  My comment is there.

I don't want to be overly technical, but did you mean "Hucksterfield?"

Even if a being named Lucifer did exist and somebody was foolish enough to channel such a being, I wouldn't want to hear what that person or Lucy had to say. Why would one want to trust what a dark minded being had to say?



http://www.near-death-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=115933#115933
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Reply #9 - Feb 9th, 2011 at 2:39pm
 
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"The same thought came to me when I saw the same advertisement at the below forum.  My comment is there."

To be fair it's not more of an advertisement than other links on this or other forums.

"I don't want to be overly technical, but did you mean 'Hucksterfield?'"

Dude, did your PUL subscription just run out? Came up with Bucksterfield, however there's prolly little money to be had from luciferian ventures. Then again, what's fame anyways other than applauded conformity?

"Even if a being named Lucifer did exist and somebody was foolish enough to channel such a being, I wouldn't want to hear what that person or Lucy had to say. Why would one want to trust what a dark minded being had to say?"

Oh well, a just as good laugh could've been had as channeling The Divine Godess of Doormats.
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Reply #10 - Feb 9th, 2011 at 3:19pm
 
Volu:

I can't say that I'm one hundred percent certain that some hucksterism is involved. There are too many fraudulent sources around to thoroughly discriminate every source that exists, so I read what Alloya had to say only briefly.

Perhaps Alloya actually did hear some channeling from a misleading being who claimed to be Lucifer.  If this is so, then I don't see the value of sharing such a being's misleading thoughts. Perhaps Alloya should consider the value of doing so.

If you consider the state of this world and how unfriendly influences are partly responsible, I believe that more than a laugh is involved.

Regarding my coming up with the same joke as Rondelle, I believe it is possible for people to come up with such jokes even when for the most part they live according to PUL. I say "for the most part" because I'm not perfect.

If Rondelle truly believes Alloya is a huckster, I don't believe it is wrong for him to say so. Hucksters "should" be held accountable for their actions. You don't do people who harm others a favor when you patronize them.

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Reply #11 - Feb 9th, 2011 at 5:02pm
 
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"Perhaps Alloya actually did hear some channeling from a misleading being who claimed to be Lucifer.  If this is so, then I don't see the value of sharing such a being's misleading thoughts. Perhaps Alloya should consider the value of doing so."

Also read it briefly so won't speak about it. In general, the value gained can be recognition. So too with True material that smells like roses but have their thorns.

"If you consider the state of this world and how unfriendly influences are partly responsible, I believe that more than a laugh is involved."

Yes, it's followed by some mean knee slaps. Their discs are involved too. What do you think is involved other than corporal sounds?

"Regarding my coming up with the same joke as Rondelle, I believe it is possible for people to come up with such jokes even when for the most part they live according to PUL. I say "for the most part" because I'm not perfect."

Teasing. So. Thought the P was for perfect. I better actually read Moens material then. For the most part I'm perfect under certain conditions aka PCL, where the L stands for lark as it's not getting late but the bed seems comfortable.

"If Rondelle truly believes Alloya is a huckster, I don't believe it is wrong for him to say so. Hucksters "should" be held accountable for their actions. You don't do people who harm others a favor when you patronize them."

Yes, yes, and some hearty (softens the blow) patronizing like Bucksterfield, Hacksterfield, Lucifeel or Hucksterfield isn't a favour, but fun, for a while. Until it gets old like new age material rehashes that rises from the ashes.
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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2011 at 11:56pm
 
I'm not at all interested in the above channeled material, but wanted to speak more generally on the issue of Lucifer sometimes aka Satan.  Two outer sources i respect a lot, the E.C. readings and the Remote viewings of Courtney Brown Phd seem to support the existence of such a being as Satan, the original rebeller in Spirit. 

  Interestingly, around the time this thread was started, i was re-reading some of Brown's first book which deals with this topic, especially in light of what he calls a "subspace" (i might call a nonphysical) rebellion that happened and was primarily started by a particularly powerful being with both dark and light in it. 

  More so, he connects this being to be the same that was largely responsible for influencing the original Grays to destructive and self serving ways.  He said that when he was observing this being and ancient history via this R.V. session, this being became aware of him, and shifted to Brown's space/time location and intensely scrutinized Brown for a time, and then suddenly left.  Brown was left with the impression that the being considered him nothing but a pest, and thus not worth wasting energy on.  Perhaps it also helps that despite the fact that Brown perceived this being as very powerful, he didn't feel any fear when directly faced with it?

   Ok, so i've come to learn that the Universe and reality is usually bigger than what my beliefs and mind conceives, and not being one to automatically, completely swallow any info or source of same, i decided to find out for myself.   For awhile, i've thought about the whole Satan thing mostly in terms of allegory and symbolism, rather than literal.

  So i decided to meditate and hook up to guidance before bedtime to see if i could get anything about this issue.  I fell asleep not long after starting the meditation and thus didn't receive anything directly during same, but when i woke up, i remembered an interesting dream which seemed to be the answer from guidance i was looking for. 

  In the dream i became aware of a dark, but powerful nonphysical being.  While i wasn't actively afraid of it, i was aware that i needed to keep out of it's grasp so to speak, as it was chasing me.  My way to avoid capture or whatever i was wary of, was to fly around in a circle increasingly faster and faster, and somehow this kept me away from this being's influence or whatever. 

  I interpreted it thusly; yes there is such a being as Satan with a real existence and who seeks to influence and affect other consciousnesses in a purely negative, non constructive way, but that i shouldn't have any fear of this being (but should have awareness of same). 

  The flying around faster and faster in a circle to avoid same, i took to symbolize that to avoid influence or harm by this being, one needed to raise-speed up their vibrational rate and this would help them to remain untouched or uninfluenced.  As most of us here know, the only real way to do same is by attuning to that consciousness and energy Bruce has labeled PUL.  The more one purely and consistently attunes to & channels same, the faster and faster the vibratory rate increases (and conversely the more the consciousness expands).

  (on a side note, if one becomes PUL incarnate within the physical, then like He/She or Yeshua, they create or realize the Light body).

  Well anyways, this is what i got about the whole issue.  To echo RAM & BM, it's important to find out for yourself what is true or not.  I suspect and know from other experiences with unfriendly beings that calling on the Divine/purely Source attuned Consciousnesses also can greatly help with any contact or issues with unfriendly beings.
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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2011 at 4:13pm
 
I don't see a problem with the .pdf. If someone can believe there's an old dude trying to make everybody good then why not a guy who volunteered to lead everyone astray also in an effort to ultimately make everyone more evolved. It makes a lot more sense to me than someone revolting against what is actually himself anyway. I'm not looking for a debate on good and evil and all that junk. I just wanted to chime in since everyone was pooing pooing the stuff.
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Reply #14 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 9:06am
 
recoverer wrote on Feb 8th, 2011 at 8:15pm:
Rondelle:

The same thought came to me when I saw the same advertisement at the below forum.  My comment is there.

I don't want to be overly technical, but did you mean "Hucksterfield?"

Even if a being named Lucifer did exist and somebody was foolish enough to channel such a being, I wouldn't want to hear what that person or Lucy had to say. Why would one want to trust what a dark minded being had to say?



http://www.near-death-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=115933#115933


Lots of people want to hear what a "dark mind" wants to say:

http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?34999-Channeling-Lucifer
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