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Apr 20th, 2009 at 8:46am
 
Hi Guys,

I am new to this board and would like anyone with experience doing retrievals to give me your feedback on if you think this is or isn't.

I have stumbled on a technique from this board that I started last Friday and I have had some remarkable excursions that I can only think are retrievals, It is so wild I cannot totally believe my mind hasn't made it up, I don't think my mind is this creative. I would like to give you just a few examples of what I have been experiencing the last couple of days when I meditate and would like your opinion on what you think it is, I don't have any way of confirming if this is a retrieval or not, I was so taken back by what was taking place I didn't think to ask for anything like verifiable information but her it goes. I cant remember every little detail because there just have been so many in the last few days, I did not write them in my journal and I am a little bewildered.

2 ladies about the same age I would have to guess around 20 years old and kind of resembled each other in a old western bar, wearing old western dresses, entertainers of some sorts trying to entertain but no one was paying them any attention and they were not having any fun, they were trying though. I walked up to them and had a conversation with the 2 ladies and told them that I could take them to where their friends and family were waiting on them and after they thought about it for maybe a minute and said ok and took my hand, I walked out the back door followed by the 2 ladies that were holding hands and I was holding one of the ladies free hands, we walked across this bridge that had another building at the end, there was a different person that was at the end of the bridge that welcomed the Ladies, this other person opened the door and the ladies went through. just before the door shut it swung open again and  the other person said to me that before the Ladies went home they would like to meet me, I said of course and the ladies were walking back out the door towards me. at that point my dog started barking and I lost my focus.

5 min Later I retried this technique and was in a forest, It seemed like there wasn't any living creature except for trees,grass,moss ,Just an empty forest except this guy who was sitting on a little rise of earth, he was a bowman, wearing leather garment and resembled someone out of the robin hood days, he was very upset maybe crying? He was telling me there hasn't been anything to hunt or eat in a very long time, I told him I new of a place that he could do all those things and also be with his friends and family, the only thing he would have to do is hold my hand and I would guide him, he did and I think I started to fly, the scenery changed and he was no longer in my hand.

30 min later, I was on a mountain cliff, there was what I think was an Aztec or Inca?some type of tattooed, leather skirt wearing dark skinned warrior who was in battle and fell off the mountain at some point and died and was waiting and still hunting for the people he was battling, he tried to attack me and after a second bent down like a crouching cat waiting to pounce on me and he started to talk and I understood him and he understood me, he noticed I did not look like the people he was hunting and was puzzled by my appearance, He did tell me his name but it was so weird I just cant remember it. I told him I know where his people are and if he wants me to show him and help him go there that he would have to take my hand, he eventually did and my scene vanished.

I know I should start to write this stuff down when I get done, it is pretty fragmented  and a lot of detail is missing, not as fresh as it was Saturday night.

So what do you think?
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Reply #1 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 9:26am
 
Greetings, Busy Retriever Guy!

I think your soul was really very ready to be helpful !
Congratulations !

The gradual increase in personal 'danger' Smiley was interesting. Did you notice that your Guide/Oversoul started you in a less threatening situation, then increased the possible aggression of the reetrivee each time. ! You never blinked and weren't phazed by their potential weapons though!

I expect you're on your way to getting some fantastic assignments! 
You seem like a natural!

Regarding that saloon scene, it's shown up in several reports here but with different retrievees. Those of us who knew our retrievee there knew they had problems with alcohol while on Earth. As I recall it's been for retrievees who have passed recently and who may have been fans of old movie westerns  Smiley Like you say, none of them seem to be all that happy with their afterlife saloon.

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Reply #2 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 12:45pm
 
Congratulation Toby! It sounds like the technique worked! Which one are you using?
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Reply #3 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 12:57pm
 
Congratulation Toby!
Write it down if you can after. It help remembering more details.
Your on your way to more "Knowing"..Smiley
Keep it up.
PUL. R.
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Reply #4 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 2:26pm
 
Hi Guys & Gals Thank you for your input.

The Technique I used was the imagination while I was in a void state. What started it was I was imagining I was swimming and within a few min I  had what felt like 8 fingers rubbing my forehead while I was getting a very comfortable electrocution? and had very bright color displays on my eyelids or minds eye? and some sort of jagged stationary yellow electric bolt  in my vision which only lasted about 1 min then I was actually swimming in a heated indoor pool, It was strange because it had stairs leading up to a living area, There was a guy that lived there that I was talking to and swimming with, it seemed like I spent the day swimming with him, I got out of the pool and felt exhausted like I needed to take a little nap, I went up stairs to the living area that overlooked the pool and there was a spread of food on a table, I grabbed 2 paper plates and loaded them with food and went to a couch and laid down on my back but propped up by the arm of the couch and started eating, well the guy showed up and I had 2 paper plates on my belly, I think I fell asleep on the couch because he woke me up and I felt so embarrassed by the mess I had made, food slid off the plate in between my legs and into the crack of the couch cushions, I think it was cheese covered nachos, I immediately got up and apologized for my mess and started to clean it up, he said stop I will clean it don't bother with it and I replied my motto is do unto others as you would have them do unto you, I caused this and I will clean it. After that I was out of that little show and back into the void where the pictures were automatic, the first one was of the desert and I just followed it and ended up in the western bar with the 2 ladies and when that one was over it was a picture of a forest, when I entered that Pic I was with the Bowman and when that one was over it was a picture of a mountain where I was with the warrior.

It was kind like I entered the picture and it came to life.

Just some back ground on me, I have been using the Monroe gateway series CD for about 10 years daily with no real progress other than it kept me calm/relaxed and clearheaded I was always stuck in the void state .  I stopped using the Monroe CD a little more than a year ago when I started studying/training with Tom Campbell and basically learning to meditate on my own with out the help from the CD's then I started trying to strip away the ego, basically getting rid of know fears, beliefs, wants and desires and practicing remote healing and parallel processing which is basically working out of this reality and the nonphysical at the same moment. At this point I still was stuck in the void state every time I meditated, it was very relaxing and peaceful just to float or work with healing but I still felt stuck, I saw Bruce Moens name mentioned from a member off the mybigtoe website and decided to check him out, I spent a few hours reading this board  and found some very genuinely kind,caring and knowledgeable folks here,  I notice a imagination technique and said what the hell, Ill give it a go and it actually worked.  I order all of Bruce's books over the weekend Smiley

Thank you again for your input and have a great day.

Toby

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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 3:06pm
 
Hi Bets,

That was very insightful of you to notice the chain of events, I did not even think about that until you mentioned it. That is awesome feedback and exactly what I needed.

Thank you.


Hi Romain,

Yep I hear you, I think I am the worst one for taking notes right after they happen. Usually nothing dramatic happens and if its worthy to be written down I will add it to a word file I created when I get around to it. My wife bought me a new journal to keep my notes in over 6 months ago and the only thing I have written in it is my name Smiley I guess this is something I need to remedy pretty quick.

Thank you for the feedback.


Toby
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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 10:21pm
 
Great, Toby! It's like Bruce wrote. He speaks not of a void, but about the "3-D-blackness", dark, but with a very impressing spatial depth to it, in which after a while something could be noticed which is different than the blackness, which then can be approached, just like you did with the images that showed up. In my perception it looks like outer space, with tiny star-dots in the background.

Thanks for posting!

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Reply #7 - Apr 20th, 2009 at 11:03pm
 
So happy for you, Toby, that you are getting to enjoy these exciting, expansive retrievals. It's like having a Second Life, isn't it, only without the computer in between!! I think that's the name of that software they use to have a second existence online.

So glad to read about your experiences. Please keep sharing. Vee
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i'd rather hang out with children
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Reply #9 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 11:13am
 
Toby wrote on Apr 20th, 2009 at 2:26pm:
Hi Guys & Gals Thank you for your input.

Just some back ground on me, I have been using the Monroe gateway series CD for about 10 years daily with no real progress other than it kept me calm/relaxed and clearheaded I was always stuck in the void state .
I saw Bruce Moens name mentioned from a member off the mybigtoe website and decided to check him out, I spent a few hours reading this board  and found some very genuinely kind,caring and knowledgeable folks here,  I notice a imagination technique and said what the hell, Ill give it a go and it actually worked.  I order all of Bruce's books over the weekend Smiley

Toby



Toby;
A few of us here started with RAM books too..and the Gateway cd, and got stuck in the void (3 D blackness as Spooky mention) ..Smiley until we discovered Bruce Books and the phasing technique he mention/using focus attention/imagination and work great for a lot of us too.

It's all part of the learning process.

Great that you order his books; you'll found lots of information in them; great read especially "State specific memories" which is, once you can identify the feeling of any area within consciousness, merely remembering and re experiencing that feeling will automatically shift your awareness back to that area of consciousness..here as writing your experience down after it happen helps...I know it not easy to sit down and write about it ...i'm the same way..lol
but when we do it and re-read those notes later it does bring back more memories input of the experience.
You'll love his book i'm sure and keep us posted if you can.

PUL; Romain.


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Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2009 at 1:52pm
 
Hi Spooky,

Nice to meet you and BTW I like that name Smiley , It pretty amazing to notice when we are ready to continue our growth or expand it to the next stage of development that we are pointed or guided to the next person,place or thing that can increase our knowledge or understanding.

Thank you for the reply.




Hi Vee,

Nice to meet you. It is very exciting and confusing, Some day I am going to have a one on one with my helpers to fill me in a little 'they are going to have their hands full on that day Smiley '

Thank you for the reply.




Hi Flower,

Nice to meet you.  I  got  a little chill when I read your post, not to sure what the chill was about but if your intent is good your choices will be good and you will grow from them so have fun.

Thank you for the reply..




Hi Romain,

That's good to hear of the similar issues, a few years back I can remember, after hearing of all the success stories of the people using the Hemi-sync cd that I must of been a animal in a previous life  or new soul which explain to me why I was not having the same types of experiences also.

I cant wait for the books, it looks like there is allot of good info to soak up and a lot of abbreviated words to learn about, Monroe had his, Tom has his and now Bruce has a whole new set Smiley   The other day I saw a posting on this board with RAM in it and I sat there for about an hour trying to figure out what it stood for,  I just got it Smiley

The journal is now out of the drawer and sitting on my desk Smiley its an improvement.



You Guy's have a great afternoon.

Toby
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