Hello Beau:

My reason for having good feelings about Christ aren't based upon believing in the Bible. There was a point in my life where I realized that I just didn't know what Christ is about. I prayed and found out in a number of ways that he is a significant light being.  I also realized that I received messages about him before I asked.  I can't say what Christ is all about, but I don't believe that fundamentalism has the answers.  Going by the messages and experiences I've had, Christ does seem to have a bigger responsibility in the grand scheme of things, than spirits that used to be human tend to have.  I once received a message stating: "The Bible's story of the lamb is mostly correct." I figure it is up to each person to decide what "mostly" means. I figure that opening one's mind and heart to divine revelation is a more trustworthy than relying on one's intellect.

I've received spirit guidance from Christ, and he does know better than me. I'm certain he realizes this. This doesn't make him egotistical and it doesn't mean he looks down on me, even though he does see me from above.


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I think that need to degrade another's belief system comes from getting along a path too quickly to actually understand where you are. I can be defensive sometimes for sure but I hope I eventually take strides to apologize for any smarted feelings. I crave a broad discussion and I guess I am guilty of shutting down when I hear what to me seems shallow or unimaginative...but I have often found that I was too quick to judge when that has occurred in the past. I like Thomas Jefferson's Bible...I think it was Jefferson. Great day to all.

Beau

I must confess, Rec, that it is a little sophmoric, but I don't want to wind up in focus 25 when I could keep striving and maybe make it to 27. But it seems the people in here regardless of their beliefs are pretty open minded.

Excellent post, Rec. I may be a little bit unintentionally misleading in my posts. I have no doubt that the Christ light is what it's all about. My problem is with the texts...certainly not all of it, but some of it. Old or New Testament those writings had more purpose than enlightenment in my eyes. But when you speak of Christ I can see that you have are open to what Christ is saying and that is a beautiful thing. I live in the south, US. It is a true Bible belt down here and Jesus comes up I don't always know where someone is coming from at first. I don't know about the afterlife to a great extent as I've only had a few fleeting encounters with what I think may be related to it. And certainly your point at the end of your post is very true about The Monroe idea becoming a Focus 25 system of it's own if one isn't careful. I guess I am still attempting to bring the character of Jesus in the bible together with what I feel is the Christ light. I mean here the person as spoken of more than his own words. I believe the Bible is fallible so I have to secure my information from sources that ring true for me. Your above post is one of them and I thank you for that.

I wrote, talking about Yeshua, "Cayce's source essentially seemed to place him in the role of main Spiritual director for this Universe, and especially for Earth. "

 This actually reminds me of another Monroe connection surprisingly.  In Monroe's first book, he mentions a very unusual occurance that happened at least a few times when he was exploring the nonphyscial in OBE state.  

 He states that it didn't matter where he was, or who he was with, but on occasion this immensely powerful, rushing energy would sweep through whatever dimension he was focused in at the time, and then everyone in that dimension around Monroe, would "lay down with their bellies up".  

 He said it wasn't coerced, but just something that everyone spontaneously and naturally did for some reason (and he felt the same urge too).   He asks questioningly "Is this God's Son?"  Perhaps, it was a humility, reverence thing for all these consciousnesses, wherein they realized the Co-Creator of their reality was passing (or rather concentrating) through?

 This also reminds me again of the Cayce readings.  With Cayce's work, he wasn't technically a medium type channel.    Other consciousnesses/beings rarely ever spoke directly through him, but rather he would go OBE during a very, very deep altered, meditative state, and communicate with various beings and energies, and relay the info via his own actual consciousness.  

 Anyways, on a few occasions we find him giving a reading, and all of a sudden it cuts off, and "higher self connected" Cayce starts to speak in a hushed and very reverent manner, and says something like, "Quiet, the Master is passing by.."  

 Occasionally Yeshua directly spoke through, or relayed info via Cayce, but it was rare.  Cayce almost never remembered his readings consciously, but occasionally before and especially after a reading was given, he felt the presence of Yeshua/Christ, and sometimes experienced a warm but powerful Golden light energy.  In one Reading, it was given that Cayce's work was essentially and ultimately the work of "the Master of Masters" or Christ Yeshua if you prefer

 Then, in Monroe's first biography, he talks a little bit about the nature of this Universe and its Creator.   He said something like things got a little too crazy in it's Creation, and then the Creator decided to become directly involved in the drama.  Monroe is not necessarily speaking of The Source btw, when talking about a "Creator".  

 Not surprisingly, this again echoes info found in the Cayce readings, which suggest at different points, similar to John gospel in the N.T., that Yeshua Disk or Spirit Essence is the very Co-Creator of this particular Universe/reality.   In the Cayce work, it is said that Christ, the Co-Creator wasn't originally directly partaking in its Creation, but started to after many of its brothers/sisters/children started to become increasingly stuck.  
It decided to first show up as a deathless, unborn teacher who just manifested a body for itself, but saw that this approach wasn't working, and so then decided to become more immersed and enmeshed in this drama in Earth.   It decided to partake in the reincarnation cycle, and took a risk of forgetfullness to do so.   This spiritually leading the way pattern, culminated in Christ's fastest vibrating lifetime as Yeshua, whom Rosiland McKnights guidance claims at one point in her book "Cosmic Journeys" was "the highest vibratory being to ever come to Earth."

  Not surprisingly, in Bruce's 4 book, Voyage to Curiosity's Father, we again find some fascinating, but subtle suggestions along this line when Bruce talks to the "Planning Intelligence".  The P.I. informs Bruce and his exploration partner, that the P.I is the Creator of this Universe, and like a Father to it, but YET was still the Child of THE Creator, of original Source.  
  During their initial contacts with the P.I., Bruce's exploration partner when tuning into and communicating with the P.I., got strong associations with the Christ and the Christ concept.  Hmm, yet she was not a "religious" person by any means...

 Ok, not only that, but in Bruce's remembrance or vision of the birth of Creation, as shared with him by the P.I., we find yet more parallels with Cayce's work.  
 
  Cayce's work suggests that the Christ Soul, was one of the first Souls to separate from Source and yet also the first Soul to fully merge with Source/The Creator again, even before the Earth and this Universe were manifested.   Cayce's source also says that this Soul, or Spirit, was and is the same thing/consciousness/energy as that we term "Love".  

 Again, not surprisingly, this mirrors and echoes Bruce's vision of this birth of Creation and that, that One being, one aspect, one spark of "Consciousness the Creator", which to him seemed "thrown outwards", indeed return fully completed and merged with "Consciousness" before any other, and thus became a model for further Creating on part of Source, and now with its Child's help.  

  This all was bit of an experiment in Bruce's interpretations.  Anyways, when examining this particular Spark, and why it was so successful in its purpose and in its mission, it realized that it was because PUL was an integral part of its Beingness, and that PUL acted much like, in analogy, water which surrounds and connects all the little particles of dry cake mix, making them all different/unique and yet One and connected at the same time.

 In the N.T., particularly in John's Gospel, we read that Christ is the Light of the world.  

   Light, the consciousness of same, is what connects everything to everything else, it is the essence of "The One Field", it is like the water that Bruce talks about.   According to Bruce and to the P.I., the P.I. is that very Light, it is the first awareness or rather concrete expression of PUL in Creation.  

  Sure, this all sounds very far out to many here, but the repeating parallels, suggestions, and connections between these very different and seemingly unconnected sources is undeniable and uncanny.  Come on, we would expect to find parallels between Monroe and Moen's work, but between them and also with Cayce's and the N.T.?

 It all came together for me (though i sensed parts and connections of it here and there), one night while taking a relaxing bath.  I received a "rote" totally and seemingly out of the blue then, and had one of those "Aha" moments and feelings, where I saw all the connections from these various sources that i had studied (and more than the ones i have just mentioned), and just knew beyond a doubt, in my gut (actually more in my Heart and Forehead   ) that my conclusion/synthesis/over view was completely right on.  

 I later wondered why i didn't get it all before.  After all, for years i was trying to figure out this Jesus guy, and what was the true story with him.  I guess i had to get to a certain point in my own spiritual developement before i fully comprehended and more importantly accepted all of it.  

  No wonder why, then, that Albert frequently hears or hears of things like from his guidance, or his close friends guidance, things like, "In His name".   It's very similar to the things that Cayce's source oft said, and Albert has never studied or been into Cayce. 





 

I will read these books you recommend, Justin, and I thank you for mentioning them. I am very glad to read what you write and I don't find what you have to say tedious or arrogant. I believe at the root of all existence there is only ONE thing. That duality is the illusion of separation. And if we truly are all one then ultimately there can be no Good and Evil, Love and hate and any other duality that you can think of. This is hard for me to write about because I have been misinterpreted many times when I say these things. When I am in a play with other actors at the end of it we all go out and have a big party after even though the people we played on stage that night may have killed each other and hated one another. Sometimes in life we forget that we are playing roles and that the costume will come off at the last day...The actor or seeker isn't going anywhere, but the character we played in this world must succumb to the end of his natal chart. So my point about Jesus is that I find fault with the Character's portrayal, not with the essence or actor that tried to break down the walls of the mind. I have yet to believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, or that his birthday is same as Osiris. And I have yet to believe in the resurrection as it is spelled out in the gospels, but I take great pride in my acceptance of what Jesus did. It's not that I am unopen to believing those things about Jesus...It's not as important to me as what he said and did. You know what bugs me the most about Church? When I go in there and everyone is talking about treating Jesus as a king--as though Prince Charles life would appeal to him. I get that a lot down here and it's true I don't go to church anymore, unless it's something special that my giirlfriend wants to go to.
Thank you for posting all this wonderful info about yourself and what connections you've made for yourself. It is very inspiring. I'm glad you pursued me on this subject because I do tend to fret a little when someone invokes the name of Jesus...because nine times out of ten, it's to tell me what's wrong with what I think. To me we are all interpreting the same message...I know, there appears to be other ones, out there, but to me ultimately all road lead to OM, so to speak...some roads are just a hell of a lot longer and less interesting. I don't think anyone burns in hell unless that's just the only they can see it coming together for them. You know what it is? Down here Jesus and Judgment are kind of one and the same. Don't get me wrong I'm not implying that you think this way...and maybe you do. I just don't believe anything is stagnant in the universe. I make the decision to move on or go back based on my ability to learn what I need from a given moment or life time. My separation from Christ is my own illusion to overcome. Jesus laid the groundwork to retrieve me and the Christ light will fulfill it when I can pull the veil down and see the connection without winding up in the pysch ward. Again many thanks for sharing and as soon as I finish Bruce's third book I will go back to Monroe and I'll look for this new book you've mentioned too. Many thanks for taking the time to benefit me.

Yours,
Beau

Well, that's really it, isn't? The bitter taste of Dogma. I guess for most of my experiences with people's impressions of Jesus it has always seemed to lead them ultimately to that dogma that makes it so hard for me to advance in conversation with them. I think the wisdom of the Christ light has permeated everything and every voice, but when our egos of either fear or fearlessness gets in the way we lose our way... I know I do. It's like a road that I know I have traveled before in some other time and I genuinely feel I have brought back something else with me this time. I haven't fully defined it yet, but I'm pretty sure most of the time of what it isn't...now by that I don't mean that such a dogmatic path will not eventually lead to the OM, but like I said before, some paths are longer...or at least different. The Oversoul is experiencing through all of us and I feel there is no need to be hasty, but at the same time I don't want to lose ground. I often hear christians down here say "why bother with all that, just accept Christ as your personal savior and you don't have do anything but live as the bible says." Then I look at where the Bible has lead humanity and I just have to wonder, you know? I have an enormous respect for Christ as I understand Christ, but I'm not looking for a short cut. Everything still evolves...even the message, but I have to keep coming back to the Golden Rule. I can't say I always follow it but before the day is over each day I am aware of it and I press on. There is too much masculine energy wrapped up in the character of Jesus in the stories...not in what he says or how he acts, but in how his words and actions effect others. I think that is because the scriptures were written by men with an agenda. All the fear inducements and follow the leader, but they are really asking that you follow the rules in the Bible or so it seems to me. Don't mistake me here, there are marvelous passages as we all know...brilliance in fact, but It's not important to my growth whether Jesus performed miracles. What's important to me is that he understood that there can be no separation of one to another. We all swim in the same universal pond. The Light reaches you. It just does and it's not meant for everyone to be reached in the same way. The Golden Rule for me is where the source lives. If I could come to the understanding that it necessitates there would be only bliss....but I'm not sure I'm ready for total bliss yet, you know? But I get that anything done to another is done to me and Jesus is not asking me to go to war with anyone. That is wrapped up in that fear mentality of the Bible and the Koran and really any doctrine that is taken for the word of God. I say it's all the word ultimately because the ability to communicate comes from that same source. Even doubters are on their path and it used to get under my skin when someone said, "I think we just die...we cease to exist". Because I can't comprehend that at all and I'm sure you find that to be the case or we wouldn't be here, but if there is only ONE then it's either on or it's off...I say it's on and our lives prove that...even if we are living in an illusion, which is entirely possible to me. Well so much for these stream of conscious ramblings.

I don't get up to Virginia very often but I certainly will if Bruce holds a workshop there. I hope we can meet up sometime. That would be very cool. It's great talking with you. I can clearly see that your impressions of Yeshua are quite different from the ones thrust on me over the years.

Beau