You know Briggs, your right. I shoulden't be apposed to anything that Ike says about the Queen. Bushs, Blair, etc. I'm sure he must be right about them going around and snacking on babies and stuff. I am a little concerned that you think that there have been millions of people see these reptilians.

hawkeye wrote on Jul 8^th, 2008 at 2:22pm:


I see what your saying about Icke and reptilians... He does have lots of uplifting positive messages.. He tells people not to fear them, because we are pure infinite love and loved by God unconditionally and always protected by God etc...He just wants people to open up their blind eyes to see that we aren't really free... That they do have us on a lock down and our manipulating us by mind control and what not.. He says never to let fear take over and that it is and illusion just like everything else besides love and truth.. So, he's not a fear mongerer like most people take him to be... He just wants to spread the truth that we have a bit of a task ahead of us..If we want to evolve mentally and spiritually we have to face our demons and deal with them.. So, we know how to get out of this web of lies... He also, exposes the many lies of religious leaders and religion in general.. So, yes he has helped me to see clearly and made me less fearful of these entities.. He's tired of seeing us as sheeple and wants us to become like the sheppard like himself... If, you don't know about all this beforehand how are you going to react when they come to our planet to control us with the New World Order?!

peace n' love

Briggs-

GEICO is a large insurance company and on their commercials they use a talking lizard who speaks with an English accent.  Now I'm wondering if that might be evidence that the reptilians have infiltrated not only our government and the Queen, but also our corporations?

I'm thinking that this might be a clever way for the reptilians to lull us into a false sense of security, making us believe that reptiles are harmless, even humorous little creatures.  We'd be vulnerable if they attempted a takeover.

I dunno, is any of this possible?  I must admit, you have made me just a little worried.

SS

Starboom wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 2:18pm:

I have a rational mind to and this is not blind faith my friend.. I have studied this subject for quite a few years now... Talk to Cathy O'brien and she'll tell you that GWB is a shape shifter.. She was a brainwashed sex slave by the men in Congress especially, by George W. Bush and saw him change right before her eyes...

I never said being skeptic was a bad thing either.. Oh yeah, and by the way the universe is a hologram.. I bet you think I'm even crazier now... If, you don't believe me that it's holographic, than ask all the scientists like Michael Talbot that have proven that this theory is true... Sounds quite crazy just like lizard people... Truth is stranger than fiction..

If, you don't believe in reptilian aliens, then I must say you are either brainwashed by the media or just plain ignorant.. HOW BIG IS THIS FREAKING UNIVERSE, and you believe there is no other life force out there besides us?! Remember this earth and universe has been around for probably millions of years... So, I'm sure there is alien life forms out there far more intelligent than us, and would be able to manipulate us so easily, like they are doing now... And you believe we are just controlled by dumb ignorant men.. That is what I find to be ludicrous.. These men are only puppets to them and they are killing us all softly..

I'm sorry for sounding a bit harsh at time, I also don't mean to offend you or anyone else that disagrees with me...

I'm going to take the word of many witnesses and researchers word that there are other alien life forms out there like the Reptilians.. Look at all the symbolism from the ancient times of pictures of snake people.. So, not just millions of people have witnesses these reptilians.. That is if you add up all the people in this world now and from the past... I'm sure close to a hundred million people have witnessed them over this whole century and before...

peace n' love

Briggs, your argument seems reasonable to me. What I notice about these sites which research these kinds of subjects is that they encourage suspicion and fear. That is not all they do. They also promote an open mind and a willingness to look at life in a different way.

However, I think that the mixed messages and convoluted thinking that I have observed add to the fear and despair that many people already suffer. Everywhere, people want someone or something to blame for the evils they perceive in life.

Focusing on negativity is simply harmful to the body and the soul. I see the proliferation of these kinds of sites as a call for help by people who feel trapped in societies which offer little in the way of hope for a peaceful world or future.

At their cores, all of these people are looking for a deeper meaning to their existence.

Unfortunately, what I see is that people are often willing to fight and accuse each other in order to "create" meaning for themselves. And it absolutely cannot be found outside of ourselves, unless we are coming from a place of love.

peace n love to you too, blink

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


Oh, I meant blind faith in general, not you in particular.

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


I don't doubt that you have studied it for a long time but...brainwashed sex slave...that right there should give pause to anyone. And by men in Congress...when I hear stuff like that, these alarms go off in my mind, and I just have to shake my head. The probability of something like that going on is about as big as me turning into a cat in five minutes. Not saying that you are lying, merely that the woman seems delusional.

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


No, actually, the universe being a hologram sounds pretty normal in comparison, and just might be the case. I don't think you're crazy at all, it's more the case of you having been attached to this woman and her stories for some reason, and I can't quite see what the attraction is. MK-ULTRA is real, sure, but shapeshifting presidents less so.

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


No, I am not brainwashed. Conditioned throughout life, sure, but not brainwashed. Mostly I pay little attention to media, especially the mainstream kind, and when I do, I take things I read with a grain of salt. Reptilian aliens might be out there, and I suggested that in my previous post. There are almost certainly other species out there, to assume otherwise would be arrogant. As for them manipulating us...perhaps. We would never know would we? At least it can never be proved. Therefore, to entertain the idea is of little use, since if they are out there manipulating us, anything we say is what they want us to say, including you. Anyway, believing there are reptilian aliens out there and this woman saying she was a sex slave for (amongst others) a shapeshifting George Bush, are two completely different things. The latter is very much likely either a lie or a sign of deteriorating mental health.

And yes, I do believe there are quite a few ignorant leaders out there. To use a famous quote: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Of course, that doesn't mean ruling out malice altogether. It's just that by meeting other people and hearing about their experiences (not to mention what I've experienced myself), I can see that stupidity is usually the reason why people do bad things, not malevolence.

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


I'm not offended, so need for apologies. This is a discussion board after all, and discussing is what we do here.

briggs5534 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2008 at 9:24pm:


Well, perhaps people have seen them. But again; people seeing reptilians or other unusual things is one thing. Believing Cathy O'Brien quite another. I just hope that this part of your belief system isn't taking you places (physically, mentally and spiritually) that aren't sound. Well, I already think that mentally, it isn't sound, but I think your mental state consists of much more than just Cathy and her tall tales.   In the end, of course, what one believes is of little consequence, as long as noone gets hurt in the process. We make up our own belief systems anyway, isn't that what Moen says?

Vedanta..isn't that Indian in origin? Unless I'm thinking of something else.

Just one thing: I don't think it's right to call Earth hell. Remember that there are many people that are having a blast living down here. Of course, if everyone was like me, I'd agree with you somewhat, haha.

Starboom wrote on Jul 12^th, 2008 at 4:58am:

Yeah, I know that people are having fun, but if you look around the whole world and see that there is more evil than good.. So, that's why I say earth is hell..

Yes, it is indian philosophy..