YET ANOTHER school shooting (well, university shooting, at Northern Illinois University that is) but I'll bet you dollars-to-doughnuts it was a kid who had the recent experience of being a socially-outcasted, picked-on nerd (just like that little Korean national psycho-geek at Virginia Tech last year.)
What makes these kids social rejects? Most likely, "de novo"
(not inherited, but spontaneous) mutations either in themselves,
or inherited from their parents. In the case of Virginia Tech, the shooter was the proud bearer of full-blown schizophrenia.
Thanks to our modern society in which it is easy to get food due to a
massive agricultural surplus, people who would have died young
by starvation or being killed by their parents/fellow villagers are now
surviving - and in some cases, reproducing. Also, laws protect these misfits, which is how we get more and more of them every generation. Why are they socially rejected? Because there is SOMETHING WRONG WITH THEM (unlike what the "self-esteem" gurus say) and the "bullies"
are simply acting as GENETIC POLICEMEN by marginalizing them.
What is/are these defect(s), you ask? Likely mutations affecting their
SOCIAL INSTINCT - the core of our humanity! The genes controlling this are likely so exquisitely tuned, that even the most minor mutations of  can send them of whack (the mutations associated with nearsightedness might be involved here, as well as obesity and non-athleticism.)
Wahtever the cause, these misfits - protected by society's laws and kept alive by its food surpluses and medical technology, have time to develop enough frustration and rage that when we're lucky, they off themselves and when we are UNLUCKY - they go on a violent rampage.
Maybe we need specialists to identify bullied/marginalized kids early
on, and send somebody to give them a painless injection. This will
accomplish 3 things... the misfit's suffering is ended, the danger he/she
poses to society is ameliorated (not to mention the removal of bad
genes from the gene pool) AND the normal kids don't learn that torturing others is fun, thus perhaps  improving the collective "moral quotient" of society over time. (Without easy victims providing cheap-and-easy victories, bullying becomes an activity with LOTS of better alternatives!)
And the problem REALLY DOES lie with the "victims" and not the "bullies." After all, the bullies are almost ALWAYS normal and healthy... but chronic victims AREN'T. (Who's got the problem here?)
Perhaps this is the answer to school shootings? After all, psychotherapy
doesn't work, drugs just make the affected kids even worse, and we are many thousands of years away from therapeutic genetic engineering. Contrary to what the "self-esteem movement" has to say, these kids really ARE defective, and really DO have something wrong with them! (REALLY! Otherwise, why would normal, healthy kids reject them?) Meanwhile, could it be that our collective gene pool is being destroyed by what we mistake for "compassion" and being "civilized"?
I believe it behooves us to answer this question..!

B-eugenicist

[quote author=Berserk2 link=1203039474/0#1 date=1203039999]Hey, B-man, wassup? Long time no hear!

I can't help but notice that your post is not quite as relevant to the afterlife as some others on this site.  So let me politely correct that problem with a softball question: Brendan, do you think these "genetic defectives" go to a spiritual plane that is the equivalent of an asylum?  Or are they snuffed out (annihilated) like an oversmoked cigar?   What do YOU think SHOULD happen to  them after their suicide?

Yours in the sweet incense of the prayers of the saints,
Don
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I say give them the choice of reincarnation (get the genetics RIGHT
the next time around) or oblivion. (That's what I'd want if I were in
their shoes. Imagine what it would be like to be a misfit FOREVER...
which is what they'd be under the no reincarnation/unconditional
immortality regime of Western religions!)

B-man

Oh, yes, Terethian, machetes are fun. So are stun guns. So are pistols that go off by accident. So are blah blah blah blah....

Ooops. I forgot. It's our right to own.........

Sorry.

love, blink

[quote author=Terethian link=1203039474/0#3 date=1203043269]Oh yeah... this should be in the Off-Topic section......

But I want to say that "IF" kids weren't able to get they're hands on guns we wouldn't have these mass killings.

I'd like to see an emotional kid go crazy and have to kill people using a blade. Yeah, not going to happen.

It is so easy to pull a trigger.....

I am not saying we need to get rid of guns or anything. Just stating the obvious facts.

Wussy kids use guns.
Real kids use machete's
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And the real BADA$$ES, use bombs.
And if you s**t, you can use it to make a
bomb (if you know a bit about making
ammonium nitrate from manure.)
So maybe we need to outlaw anuses, or
something..?
I think that outlawing inanimate objects
(guns/machetes/what have you) won't work.
We need to identify and deal with the PEOPLE
predisposed to commit such acts (if we want the acts to
stop, that is.)

B-man

[quote author=Terethian link=1203039474/0#7 date=1203053398]I am tempted to go out and kill some people using very basic methods simply to prove your posting wrong.

Wow... human nature at it's finest.

The point to that load of crap above that I just typed is you cannot stop humans from killing humans.

Better you try to stop the sun from rising.

(This topic really REALLY has nothing to do with the afterlife and should NOT be here at all. It's driving me bonkers.... Should have worded it different if you wanted the topic to stay here... someone is gonna get Bruce to move it.)
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Won't be the first time I got a post bumped/moved...
But what the hey, it lasted long enough to get noticed.
I guess that makes it a success, for what it's worth.
Anyway - in a way, my post has to do with spirituality. (Might
people be more inclined to treat each other better,
if they didn't get any practice in being bullies - because
the easy torture targets were removed from the population at
an early age? Might society be less violent then?
Might this lead to more people getting
a better afterlife..? *There you have it!*)

B-man

You are all starting to sound like a bunch of Nazi's. Killing people because they have genetic differences from you. Next you will be saying that the crippled should also be killed off. My stomach is in knots over these posts. It really shows how you think. An you Berserk2, don't you call yourself a man of God? Yet I hear no defence for the week . No offer of love or forgiveness. Are there no posting restrictions regarding hate and the desire to openly say you want to kill other people. I am sickened! My consideration is to vacate the board. I feel no desire to be part of this sort of behavior nor the transmission of this hate out to other who come here to learn or ask question of/about the afterlife, etc. Not this verbal diarrhea. Lets talk about the killings at the schools. Cause and effect. No problem but injections to kill them off as kids...Moderator please.
Joe  

This shooter was a "revered" member of the body of that university and a campus leader in the area of criminal justice.  He was a "good" person.

He went off of his medication.

He was mentally ill because he went off his medication.

He had a license to own firearms.

You do the math.

love, blink

Hi Joe,

I'm not sure if we choose our families or diseases pre-birth.  I tend to think that would be too much to plan.  How we express love under the hard knocks of the earth school is what matters most.  I see patients who bear their diseases nobly, who are upbeat, creative, loving and functional.  I also see patients who are bitter, angry and resentful.  Its a mixed picture.  I've always thought that those who manage to manifest love under the most trying of life's burdens are very special/blessed indeed.

I wouldn't condone negative comments against any individual, disease or ethnic group.  B-man's rant is more a sign of his anger and being upset at the school shooting than anything else, if you get past the sarcasm.


Matt