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Justin aka asltaomr
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the golden lion faces the large black spider
Jan 24th, 2008 at 4:38pm
 
   A little while ago, i remembered this dream:

  I was observing a Temple area, seemed to be either a Shaolin or Buddhist type temple.    There was this very large, and aggressive black spider, who was chasing the people (monks?) at the temple. 

There were also other various animals there, and they too seemed afraid of this big black spider, which didn't seem to be afraid of anything. 

So, a lot of running, and some shouting.   

There was this big golden Lion there as well.   It too was a bit scared, and i had the impression it to was saying something like, "Oh shite, that thing is pretty big, poisonous, and scary."

  But it decided to stand it's ground anyways, and to face the spider.  I think it wanted to stop it from terrorizing everyone.  I don't remember seeing much of the battle, but the last scene i remember is the Lion swiped at the black spider with a large paw.


  I don't know if this is more of an "outer" dream, or more of an inner dream, or both?   Thing is, it could be either outer or inner, or both at the same time.
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Re: the golden lion faces the large black spider
Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2008 at 12:12am
 
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tthe mouse is a force comical but reminds us once more our efforts are rewarded, but we need the guardian lion of spirit to actually get spiritual food with.
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Hi Justin..this dream symbolize, only to me, recent events that play out on our board here. the Lion represents a protective force that guards. it is a part of spirit force that watches over the board, so that truth and love, honor and beauty can prevail against another force which has a web in which to trap it's food.
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don't have a spider image, so gave u my centipede as stand in. the spider has a web which traps its food. its food is other living beings, and the spider or centipede is not really dangerous to humans, but is not belonging necessarily in one's house. a force to be reckoned with and recognized.
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this man who draws plans is a spiritual force also active on the board. this force is too busy working so needs the protection of the lion so he can keep up the plans.


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the cosmic guy is another force we aspire to create our reality here by our unity. it represents the beauty of color and enterprise.  the lion is really here! it's a very powerful board for truth. love, alysia
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Reply #2 - Jan 28th, 2008 at 12:10pm
 
  That's an interesting take there Alysia, i would not have figured in applying it directly to this board in a more specific sense.   

  I honestly don't know either way yet, i suppose if it's important enough, i will either get more dream guidance or maybe i should just meditate with it in mind. 

   Thank you for your input in any case.  I will definitely ponder over it some more.
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Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2008 at 1:14pm
 
hi Justin, I often have dreams of the board. sometimes it is a castle, sometimes it is a beach mansion, one time it was symbolized as the buildings of TMI where a crowd gathered along with another group from another forum.
some action in the dream landscape invariably outpictured later here on the board to my wonder. so that is why I took the viewpoint I did.

then a few people here and there would post their dreams. One time Doc posted a dream he had which related to the board here. in his dream we were depicted as a neighborhood gathering, on a street, near his house and some people were building new construction right beside his house. we often get new construction here.

then one time to my wonder, a lady came and went, posting a dream, she too wondering what it meant and I didn't want to admit it, but she had tuned into me and somehow found this board to write it to me. Everything she said was too revealing for comfort..she had tuned into my aspirations and intentions for being here which were basically idealistic for greater community and how I use this board for soul growth.
she wondered who the lady in the dream was, who was, she suspected, on this board. took me awhile to speak up and say I recognized myself in her dream. she was pleased and verified with herself, she had gotten correct information. I grew in the courage it took, to tell her she was correct and I had some gratitude, that all of us are opening to visions, or developing in our own way, whether through dreams, or retrievals, our professions, our studies, because they are showing up here, and on other forums, that we are growing past all dogmas of who and what we are, just slowly. things should pick up here shortly I'm thinking.
I'm looking forward to dropping my telephone bill, I often joke, in favor of telepathy, in the future, I often need to ground into the now moment.
I want to write a book sometime on dream interpretation...like the world really needs that, right?  Well maybe the world doesn't need Alysia's dream book, but then that's what my heart tells me I have to do what I love, fail or succeed.

I can't begin to tell you how I have grown on this board over the years towards self discovery. thanks for your dream, that you took the time to put it here, that is your gift to us too. I hope you realize your time is important here.

love, alysia
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Reply #4 - Jan 28th, 2008 at 2:38pm
 
Dunno Alysia.   I like this board a lot on a personality level, and it seems to be unusually fast vibrating and balanced (in a collective sense), but at the same time i kind of have a feeling or attitude of, "one place is as good as another", because to me, it's not so much where you are, but how you are living and being.   

  If one relies more on that, then one could be happy, fulfilled, in and at almost any place, condition, group, etc.   

  But, i agree, this board can and does help people and is perhaps more efficient and balanced in this regard than a percentage of other sites out there.   

  At some point on everyone's spiritual path, they come to the realization that they can either go within for true joy, peace, etc, or they can keep playing the illusion game of relying on things and conditions outside of self, whether it be a particular place, particular people, particular groups, etc, for happiness.   There are very subtle forms of what i call, "spiritual materialism" which are hard to see.

  Problem with the latter tendency of trying obtain happiness through conditions and things outside of self, is that you always need more of it, and it's like a drug fix, a momentary high, but one which leaves you feeling kind of off after the initial high wears out.  Then, of course, a person needs another fix and its a never ending cycle until a person finally says "enough" and really means it.

  I use to look for and deeply desired to be surrounded by "like minded and hearted" folks a lot more, but i view Retrievals in a much broader scope than just afterlife retrievals.   It seems i get the most joy and fulfillment lately, in being around and with those who aren't of like mind and heart though sometimes its more challenging, unlike with many of the folks here who are more of like mind and heart.

  Yeshua said it pretty well, when he said, "those who are whole, need not a physician."   Most people here have the right tools, beliefs, and ideals to learn how to help themselves more and more.   Hence i wouldn't say that my time here is all that important or helpful, and i'm mostly here because i'm still yet human and still desire some of that like minded and hearted interaction.   

  It's like pretty much anything in life, there needs to be a balance.

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Reply #5 - Jan 28th, 2008 at 5:46pm
 
Justin said:   I use to look for and deeply desired to be surrounded by "like minded and hearted" folks a lot more, but i view Retrievals in a much broader scope than just afterlife retrievals.   It seems i get the most joy and fulfillment lately, in being around and with those who aren't of like mind and heart though sometimes its more challenging, unlike with many of the folks here who are more of like mind and heart.

  Yeshua said it pretty well, when he said, "those who are whole, need not a physician."   Most people here have the right tools, beliefs, and ideals to learn how to help themselves more and more.   Hence i wouldn't say that my time here is all that important or helpful, and i'm mostly here because i'm still yet human and still desire some of that like minded and hearted interaction.
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I too have come to view retrievals in a much more global sense these days, and so I see you are right there with me. I think many here do not know if we survive death or not, and that would be a good place to spread the good news. Well, I have really benefitted from your presence here, personally speaking. sometimes I wondered where you got all that information and it does appear to me, you have lived before and brought some of it with you. I benefitted but don't express that well.
btw, it seems both of us made a post we were going to back off of this board..then I wonder when that will happen?

I don't think theres a rush to force the nonaddicted type of behavior, for surely change is at the root of all habit...it will happen. even death will happen. I was thinking and somebody mentioned this, in the future we will not be using computers hardly at all. amazing thought, since I just got introduced to computers in 1999 as a way to keep in touch with the world etc...versus watching a TV set to see whats being shown to me as a way to make a connection with life.

there isn't that much reward to addictive behavior, not really. I think the only reason I hang out here is to get private pm, that someone says "the light is here" or great board, or thank u for being here as I couldn't say this in public, but I knew you would hear me in private. its not that I need anything from anyone exactly, but love does heal the separation factor. its like a massive retrieval going on from my viewpoint.

something like that. anyway, it was great knowing you, should you take off. won't forget you.
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Reply #6 - Feb 16th, 2008 at 2:27am
 
  I believe i may know what this dream now means, though i'm not completely sure.   It fits into a pattern of late of my T.S. (twin soul) and i getting more and more info involving definite and organized destructive forces who don't like the idea of the Changes happening, or those more spiritually attuned taking a greater active role in leadership.   Recently she dreamt of some non spiritually attuned E.T.'s, the "reptilian" types and how they try to psychically influence those who are at all open to that influence.   


  Some of my dream is precog and related to this board and to recent stuff, which is not as it appears on the surface.   

   I get the sense that there has been a deeper and deliberate manipulation going on.   

  The Lion i haven't fully figured out.   The Lion can represent various things depending.  The fact that it was golden in color and acting in a protective role, indicates that this was the more positive and spiritual Lion archetype being represented.   

   Could represent me (or more so my higher self) since i have Leo Rising (hence very strong Leo indication, of the lion) and a strong Sun in my chart (said to be the ruler of Leo, though not completely true) and lately finding out how much manipulation, corruption, and control is going on in the world and deeply desiring to do anything to help counter balance this.   I've told the Creative forces before this dream that whatever it takes, i am willing if it helps my other selves. 

  I've come to believe that one of the methods and tools of those groups who do not like the idea of the changes, is to spread, promote, put in place, and activate belief systems, whether spiritual, religious, scientific, political, and/or leaders/examples of same that tend to limit people's spiritual growth via false beliefs, ideas, ideals, and examples.  Of course, sometimes pretenses have to be maintained and there are and have been "fall guys" here and there.

  Yet, they have learned that the best and most effective method in misleading, is not by complete lying, but by half truths, because even those more spiritually developed can be fooled by half truths because some parts will "resonate" with self, the truthful parts, that tends to help put down our discriminating senses, builds trust, and so we are less likely to question the Whole.

  We live in strange and extreme times indeed.   In America in particular, reminds me so much of what Cayce's source said about the saga of Atlantis and the wars and internal strifes between what they called those who were followers of the Belial and those who were followers of the Law of One.     Whether allegorical or more literal, there is such a repeating of those extreme times going on.   

   
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