One of my friends, whom i work with on a regular basis, could see auras for most of her childhood, up to about age 13. 

  We were talking about auras the other day, and i mentioned the pure White Light, and to my surprise she said she once saw an almost pure White Light aura. 

  This was while attending the church her family used to go to.  She said that they would sometimes have guest speakers come to their church.   One was an 80 year old or so lady who had been involved with missionary work for most of her life--she was a nurse.   She had gone to a very poor African country while in her 20's, and worked and lived there for almost 60 years of her life.   My friend wasn't so sure how much of it was due to religious work or upbringing, or her being a nurse, but she remembers her talking a lot about God and i'm sure for her to be there at the Church to begin with, she must have had some kind of Christ oriented belief system.

  Anyways, she said the aura around her was unusual in various ways, first off it was more radiant and pronounced than most of the auras she would see.  Second, was that it was almost pure White Light except having little patches, spots or areas of deep blue as well. 

  Dunno, when she told me this, i felt very heartened by it.  I told her that lady must have been very close to enlightenment and pure Source attunement, and this probably came about living her life so much for others (the greater self) and so little for the seemingly separated selfish self.  She was one who truly lost self in service and gained her real self, after the pattern of Christ himself. 

  I guess part of the reason of why it was such a heartening story to me, was that it made it all seem reachable and attainable--not some far off or unreachable development.   

  Conversely, my friend said that some of the preachers she had met, had very red and more narrow auras.   I wasn't overly surprised by that.

The short answer is yes in healers that are clear enough to run golden white energy and also in all people as they approach old age.  In each stage of life higher, finer energies filter through the aura.  As one ages, white light courses through their being and increases their affinity with the spiritual world as they prepare to leave this world. This is a natural process for everyone. 

Yes, nice story Justin.  I'd say since this woman's aura was radiant that she was also in very good health with much love and goodness flowing through her.

Kathy

  Your welcome Recoverer, and thanks Kathy.

  Spooky, i don't really know, i've only seen auras in a physical sense a couple times and these were under more controlled settings--low lighting, neutral color backdrop, clothes off, and went into meditative-hemi-sync type mode.  In those cases, i saw what i interpreted as the emotional and mental "levels".

  The etheric level though, i've found is rather easy to see, kind of general glow about people or other living things, and the healthier the person the easier to see, but while this is 'part of' the aura, its not what i consider the aura (this seems easiest to see in somewhat bright artificial light).   For example, when someone says someone has a lot of deep blue in their aura, they are usually talking about the 'mental' level of energies which correspond to our deeper character and mental tendencies.   However, if someone becomes really angry and someone says, "you have a lot of red in your aura right now", they are talking about the emotional layer.   The mental layer is much more constant and stable than the emotional.

  As far as all older people having more radiant auras, and all that, i definitely don't agree at all.   While i don't usually see auras, i sense them well enough, and i've met plenty of older people whose auras were rather slow vibrating, muddy, and leaden particularly in the mental part which is the most important part in talking about auras--the part that corresponds to our deeper character and our most consistent, strongest thought and emotional tendencies in this life.   And our spiritual ideals or lack thereof, also shade into the mental 'layer'.

  What i would semi agree with is that, when a person is nearing the transitions from physical to nonphysical, in a more slow or pre-known manner, then the aura tends to start to 'lighten up', and the colors start to shift to the faster vibrating, more clear, and oft more radiant.   It's as if they have started to shift more into the faster vibrating bodies of their emotional and/or mental bodies, instead of concentrating so much in the physical and etheric as so many do, so often.

  However, becoming old, does not mean people start to become saint like, and only those who are saint like within, will express or radiate a saint like aura, like the lady i talked about in the above.   The aura, particularly the mental level, is just a reflection of who you are, your character, how you live, your degree of spiritual development.    It's the etheric and physical which more directly shows your health and vitality levels.   Most everyone's emotional levels are constantly shifting according to mood (unless one is unusual and keeps a pretty steady and consistent mood), and this is the 'interface' between the slower vibrating etheric level and the faster vibrating mental level.   

  My friend had seen many auras, both of younger and older people, and this particularly lady's aura really stood out and in more than one way, out of all the auras she had ever seen.   It may be partly that she was close to transitioning from the physical to the nonphysical, but i get the sense and its also logical to assume, that her aura was like this because of how much and how consistently she had given of self to others with little or no thought for the little self. 

How many people have devoted some 60 years of their life to helping those in need (and in extreme, potentially dangerous conditions), and with little or no material compensation?    She was a "Godly" woman and a service oriented Soul, and her radiant, White Light filled aura just simply reflected this fact.  Physical age oft has little to do with spiritual development in the more expanded sense...if anything, someone living a very spiritually intune life, and with a good balance between the physical, mental, and spiritual energy systems, and who has dropped certain limiting belief systems....well such a person will stop aging to begin with and they won't have to transition like most do!   Aging is a sign of illusion living, and lack of holistic balance.

the_seeker wrote on Nov 14^th, 2007 at 12:01am:


  You are asking questions which has taken my whole life to figure out, from a synthesis of deep experiential knowledge gained from deep challenge and suffering in this and other lives, reading various spiritual literature, etc. 
Actually, i don't believe there is such a thing as "selflessness" in the ultimate sense.   I believe one either lives for the greater connected Self, or the seemingly separated, little self.    It's like the whole ocean and drop of water analogy.  When the drop of rain is not connected to the ocean, it has no power of its own, but it when it rejoins it has all the power of ocean behind it.  We are very similar to that drop of water, and the physical is the level of consciousness in which it strongly facilitates beliefs in the illusion that we are all just drops of water running around by ourselves and that there is no ocean to rejoin to.

  Why should one live more for the more Total and connected self...  Quite simple really, when one lives and acts for this Self, it tends to bring abiding, non dependent on anything outside of itself--joy.   When one lives for the seemingly separated little self, particularly if at the expense of another or the collective...well this brings suffering and pain to the individual self, and oft to others as well.   I believe we will always have our individuality, and will always have some measure of individual self awareness...but at the same time, to me, there is no separation of me and others.   There are 'differences', but no real separation. 

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  Yes, this seems to be largely so, doesn't it.   Maybe all the hoopla in various belief systems about the future 'changes' is just about the eventual changing of this pattern?   Maybe we will be seemingly forced (or rather cajoled) by seemingly outside catalysts to live in a more unity, collectively giving type way?

  Maybe its the above reason that causes all the human suffering in this world?    Maybe you have to understand exactly what the physical is, and how it came about, before you could fully answer those questions for yourself?   Maybe what we call the physical, is the eventual result/projection of mass/collective spiritual error, and thus is based on and strongly facilitates illusions and illusionary perception?   

  Maybe only doing a radical 180 degree turn from same (like Jesus or some other spiritual teachers did), and the so called natural way and pattern of the Earth, is what gets us to reality and above all...that which we all seek--abiding happiness?
   I've found for myself, over and over again that the pleasures of the Earth and of the seemingly separated little self are very temporal and dependency creating in nature.   I've found that the fruits of the Spirit are more lasting, and don't require anything outside of myself to spark that pleasure.   Even plenty of more material oriented studies have show that both giving and positive thoughts about others will cause one's brain to release feel good/pleasurable chemicals.   Now, if that is true from both an energy/spiritual perspective, and from a more material, bodily perspective...wouldn't it then make sense to start living a life of giving, positivity, and of service if one wants to be more happy?

  Maybe when you give to others, you are really just giving to yourself in an indirect way?

spooky2 wrote on Nov 13^th, 2007 at 9:20pm:


Hi Spooky,

Yes it is possible.  When viewing auras in any kind of light, one is using both the physical and non-physical eyes.  I have seen auras for over 30 years and have studied and worked with these energies for nearly as long.  These energies are actually a part of our physical world.  They penetrate through the physical body.  I have several posts regarding this both here and at Linn’s.

The state of one’s aura varies greatly depending on countless things.  It is a popular idea that the colors of the aura relate to one’s spiritual maturity, however that is only somewhat true and not in the sense that is commonly thought.  Our energy bodies carry spiritually intended life experience and as a person matures from birth through the death process, that person is able to tolerate finer, higher energies as their life progresses.  When we are born we are not fully incarnated into the body.  Incarnation is a lifelong process where the higher spiritual energies affect experience through each of the stages of life – birth, early childhood, adolescence, and so on to old age.  The older we become, the higher and finer the energies.

The golden white light filtering into the aura as one approaches old age is made up of consciousness that includes spiritual purity, innocence and wisdom.  When this natural process is understood and allowed to unfold within the psyche the person is filled with serenity, innocence and love, which begin to permeate their entire being.  This is evident even in those who are dealing with dis-ease and physical illness, which does feel “muddy” stagnant and undercharged.  Still, these finer energies are continually coursing through their being leading them into their next stage of experience and maturity.

Unfortunately our mainstream culture doesn’t always hold a lot of respect for the innocent wisdom old people possess because of these energies coursing through their being.  That is really too bad.  They have so much to offer us.

Kathy

You're welcome. 

spooky2 wrote on Nov 14^th, 2007 at 8:39pm:


  Hmmm, i'm sure if there is such an ability, then if you really wanted to, you could develop it.  You seem fairly nonphysically sensitive as compared to the average person.   Who knows though, maybe your Greater self would consider it a distraction for you?   The only reason why i believe that i can sense auras, is that after awhile and enough times telling people their strongest most predominant color in their mental layer, and that almost always matching up to their favorite color...well after awhile and enough times, i started to trust it.   Because, like attracts, begets, and likes/is attracted to like.   This is why their most predominant colors in the mental layer of the aura so oft matched up to their favorite colors.   This, doesn't rely on lighting at all, and you don't even have to know or be anywhere near the person to tune into them and their most predominant energies.  I've done it over the I-net a few times, with just as much accuracy.   In those cases though, i oft also had their birth charts, which helped too.

  Another aura story.  One time, my wife and i were traveling, and we stayed at this really nice hostel in northern VA, up in the 'mountains'.   Had a really nice, and high vibrating energy.   We were sitting in the foyer relaxing, i was reading a book and Becky had found one of those magic eye books.   She apparently had never gotten the 3D images before, and so spent quite awhile looking through this book, concentrating hard, and after about 30 minutes or so, she started to see the 3D pictures easily.  She looked through it for awhile longer, and then looked up at me to tell me about it. 

  She was rather surprised to see a bunch of colors around me, especially around my head and shoulder area, with varying layers, and some swirling a bit.   She said, a cobalt blue color and a purplish magenta color were the strongest and most pronounced, but she also a thinner layer of green, and then more outwardly, a more narrow band of bright yellow. 

  Some skeptics might say that she was just seeing the after image, opposite complimentary colors of the ones she was staring at in the book, but that phenomenon doesn't happen that way.  It's more 'fixed' in nature.   If you say stare at a red color for awhile, after awhile you will seemingly start to see its opposite green if you look away. 

  In my case though, some of the colors fields had movement in them, and there were just too many different colors going on at the same time for it to be the after image affect (at least from what i understand).  What i think might have happened, is that the combination of the long concentration (like meditation) and the hemi-sync like affect of the Magic eye, combined to temporarily open up her nonphysical senses more.    She has a fairly "psychic" or intuitive chart, since she is an Aquarius Sun with strong Aquarius, Capricorn, and Pisces energy, with Uranus and Jupiter strong, Neptune slightly strong.

  As far as older people and all that, dunno, i don't see spiritual development and life cycles so linear as that.  If my long term studies into astrology have taught me anything is that we go in various cycles which aren't necessarily linear and which can go back and forth from slower vibratory energies, to higher, to back, and in different combinations, and its different for everyone. You can see this to some extent, in people's charts, particularly relating to their transit and progression charts, and comparing them to the natal/birth chart. 

  And, i worked as an in home care assistant with elderly folks for awhile, and from deep personal experience, well the wisdom of age is very relative depending on the individual.  Most of the folks i worked with, weren't particularly nice, mature, or spiritually intune.  I find younger children to generally be much more open to the spiritual energies than older folks.   Many old folks (in my experience), are so entrenched in such deep and limiting emotional and mind habits...well that's part of the reason of why they age and die.  If you look at a wide range of people in this country who still support Bush and that administration..well i bet many of them are older folks (some have recently become mad at him because of social security issues, but that is relatively recent).   As far as aging and dying, they seem to stop 'learning' in this plane having become almost a set of fixed mind body habits, and so their Greater selves take them out because it starts to become nonconstructive for them here or rather there is no point for them to stay any longer.

  I repeat, anyone who is truly living spiritually and who has a good balance between the physical, mental and spiritual and who is consciously tapping into those faster vibrating energies of golden, golden white, and pure white light...well these start to transcend aging and dying, unless they have strong beliefs that that's what they are suppose to be doing. They might not completely glorify the body like Christ did, but their physical lives can be quite extended, and this doesn't have to be a conscious thing, usually its more or less automatic.

Supposedly, they dug up the body of St. John of the Cross a couple hundred years after he died, and his physical body was said to be in a unusual state of preservation, and if this is actually true, this indicates the possibility that he was reaching a state or spiritual development which was pretty intune.   Probably quite close to Christ consciousness.

  As far as auras in general, and them relating to spiritual development.... i would agree that its not a cut and dry, black and white issue.  In my experience, it can be a complex mix of factors which indicate spiritual development or lack thereof.  Usually you can't point to one predominant color in the mental part of the aura, and say definitively that this person is very advanced, or very immature.
  Yet, if judged the right way, if many factors are considered at the same time, then yes the aura is quite indicative of our degree of development and this most pertains to the mental layer and to the overall harmony of the entire aura combined.   All the aura is, is a reflection of us in symbolic, more objective 'code'.   The problem or confusion comes in the fact that the aura contains 4 major layers, and some have more or less do with the deeper character and spiritual aspects, and some more to do with the physical body and its state, and some interweave or are a blend of the two.   It can be complex, and yet the principles behind same are very, very simple.   Like attracts, begets, and emanates like, and fast vibrations are more spiritual and closer to reality, and slower vibrations are more materialistic and farther away from reality. 

  Seeing auras, does not mean that one understands them completely or very well.  Just as many people see many colors in the physical world, in nature, and don't really know what they mean or how to translate them.   It's not that much different, except that aura colors are more purely and directly indicative of meaning relating to humans.  Color in nature, and in art, also has meaning but it tends to be more indirect and relative.

  Dunno Seeker, but those are good questions.  I hope you will find the full answers to them if its constructive for you/the collective to do so.