Hi all;
Seems like you got quite a few hits..IMO..

1-Blink- in a dark place; maybe in the cave with us. There was lot of love feeling there.
moving around in circle all connected. Deep purple colors..!.

2-weexldax- Yes lots of children's in the second part of the PE; my heart went for them did notwant to leave either. Especially those 2 girls with the boy standing behind them. Who are they?

3-tgecks- Dancing/music...got the feeling of digeredoo too; but dismiss it because i thought it too much association..you know abo/digeredoo..i should have listen more carefully.

4-Vee- Yes there're a lot of sand it's in the desert..and you made it..great.
One was aqua colored with a wide brim hot for Alysia..is Aqua color like blue..

5-Pulsar:there was a feeling of total equality and oneness, yes it was..i believe we all left the ego behind. thanks for joining.
Pulsar:((((
I did not dare to ask for forgiveness on passed historical happening, to me it seemed like I would be misunderstood as an hypocrite, who is trying to whitewash his ancestor's bloody hands.))). when it's come from the bottom of you heart with love energie it's NEVER Hypocrite..

6-Alysia; the lizard man..think Shaman..you pushy girl...lol..glad you ask specific questions about how it change colours..maybe that's why you throw that perticular piece of bone back down to where you pick it up..you did not like his answer..

7-Betsi: Yes some of us were taken to the healing place. that's what it all about. You ISH (higher Self helper) know what's best for you. He/She will never let any harms come to you, remember that..Fears is the worst one to conquer..you'll get there dear Soul.

So guys we did a darn good job...thank you all.
With love;Romain

Hi there, my PE, well, "trip" I should say lol (not read yet others' stories):

During a little self-hypnosis, I came to a helper with the thought in my mind to participate in the PE. I then had the idea to appear somehow special, so that maybe one could remember me, and I chose to wear a light grey, silky-shimmering sort of underwear, a white glowing ball of light hanging on a neckchain before my chest, and above it a dark gray long cloak with a hood, (to make me appear a bit mysterious ), and having a long staff in my right hand (hello Gandalf!). Then I decided to visit everyone else who wants to participate and invite them. I didn't exactly remember who had planned to be there, I just let myself appear to some people. I remember visiting Bets and Alysia, who immediately recognized me, and PhantasyMan and Pulsar; someone female, it could be Vee or Gweexldax maybe. And someone who was indecided. I said to each one who was puzzled to don't worry, it's just me (lol), and tried to let some white light pour over, and showed a picture of, or a hole leading to, Uluru, with the option to go with me there. So I went a few times back and forth. When I was back standing on the rock, other people arrived there on their own.

  The rock itself was quite impressive, large from near, and from a distance not so impressive through it's size, but through it's exposed location on a desert plane. It appeared as yellowish/orange, or, more abstract, as a violet crystal, much like an amethyst.

  I gave everyone a long staff, as that seemed to be right somehow, as they were, so I thought, good tools for what we're going to do, they can serve as a vertical energy conductor and can give support, grounding, and would connect the group members.

  There was another person, and to me it seemed like an authority. Looked like a male native Australian, and I had the impression we had to follow his advice; I couldn't figure directly what he wanted, the helper I had met at the beginning in my place was beside him and seemed to translate for me/us.
  We came to stand in a circle. The surrounding became gloomy and violet. A strong wind started to blow. Our staffs made electric sparks, going from one to the other, and let energy flow in a vertical colummn. I dropped my cloak. I received/thought:

  The Dreaming...humans' awareness is mostly outside of The Dreaming, while the basis of their physical life is still inside The Dreaming, it is continously going on, The Dreaming is the physical, especially the earth, only seen from a different viewpoint as the physicists' one; rather than as formulas, in the Dreamtime the physical, the earth, it's rules and form-giving powers and processes are appearing as beings. Even emotional patterns of animals (and humans), emotions, are appearing as beings.

  Around our circle then beings came closer, fluttering around us, appearing as shadows. The atmosphere became scary, the wind blew stronger, I focused on my staff, on my standing, on the energy colummn, stating we have good intentions, and finally we all work for the All-Good. "They are curious about us" it came to my mind. I could make out one of the many shadowy beings. It's body seemed to be the size of a cat, but it looked in some respect similar to a bat's body. Very large ears, round knob-eyes, a nose like a dog, and a very broad mouth with teeth, a very slim-skinny body; it was flying around, but had narrower wing-skins than bats have, it would not be able to fly physically. That being fluttered all around me, it noticed me obviously, but I couldn't make contact with it. I then thought I had to make myself more similar to it, and watched from outside my body shapeshifting into a similar looking being, and flew along with the other one, the first time the other one seemed to be fleeing the "me"-bat-being, but then my impression was, we/they became familiar, or befriended somehow, so that each of us had an impression of each other. Then I focused back on my human appearance. It wasn't scary then anymore.

  Finally, we enhanced the vertical energy-colummn, it was glowing light-grey/white; it seemed to me, these beings could pick up some informations from this energy colummn for their own benefit and evolution, as we could, too, in having these beings nearby and watching them.

  Then the ceremony was over, the scene became lighter, with more natural color, like it was evening or morning. All were walking around slowly and relaxing. Someone thanked me.

  I then stood before the ceremony-master, the native-Australian looking man, and we sat down, facing each other. He drew something in the sand between us. Our staffs were standing upright at the right of each of us. Then both staffs moved in the middle between us and melted there and disappeared in a line of light. Then the man reached out and with his fingers he painted something on my forehead. Then I left the scene.

  At one point, I don't remember when it was, I was standing close to one of the PElers, and above us was a large, white glowing ball of light, we rose upwards, and it was as if we were in the middle of a vast, ever extending empty plane. Then we returned.


Spooky

Hi all; I like the rote/explanation Spooky /received/gave of Dreamtime; very interesting and quite to the point, we are living an illusion...

So you not left handed Spooky...humm..ok.

Thanks for sharing; with love Romain

Greetings,

Romain, aren't there some spiritual traditions that recognize that in some states of 'mind', everything is mirror-image? (right would be left, etc)

Unrelatedly,
Are we all in the same state at a PE? Do we stay in the same state that we travelled in--astral, etheric, etc ?

Just wonderring,
Bets

betson wrote on Oct 29^th, 2007 at 11:34am:



Hi there Bets, i know this addressed to Romain and I hope he answers but u brought up something I'm working on regarding the Cosmic Mirror.
don't know that I can explain anything, just some reflections on having gone obe and observed this cosmic mirror thing.
In several obes the mirror effect is produced when I receive a thought ball or rote from the other person I'm interacting with. as we are mirrors to each other, it expresses our true one-ness. it is as if for a moment, while I am there, out there, I cannot tell if the rote is in my head or their head, it is "my thoughts" or my memory being sent to me it seems from them, and where I sometimes wonder, how they know of my memory..then I realize that "all is known" out there, this is the mirror effect of universal consciousness, we become open books to others. I should say, nothing is hidden from universal mind. often, might be a slight tendency to feel naked, but without the self consciousness might be there, just it is what it is sort of feeling, which goes along with our PUL explanations.

most interesting when it does occur. love, alysia

Hi Romain, I'm right-handed, you know left hand at the neck, right hand at the body lol. Yes, sometimes I imagine to take an instrument with me on PEs, but this time I carried this long stick, having it in my right hand.

On the mental states, Bruce told on the workshop in Germany that it could be that on a PE people are tuned to different Focus Levels, and that it can still work then, the perceptions would be differently "colored" then. "Phasing" doesn't refer to any particular Focus Level, it only says you phase from one focus of awareness to a different one. When somebody is trying to make conversation with you and you don't respond because you're elsewhere in your thoughts, you're "out of phase" to that person's focus of awareness.

Some similarities with my experience:

Blink mentioned a maypole, I mentioned a tube of light in the middle of the group, and the long staffs. She mentioned that at one point it became very dark, and that's what I experienced too.

GweexlDax told about wind, I too. She heard a flute; this helper I had is usually playing a simple wooden flute at the place I meet him. She said some were interacting with local spirits, yes exactly.

Tgecks confirmed the maypole thing Blink mentioned, and wrote that love shot around from heart to heart, I saw electric sparks going from the people's staff to staff.

Vee saw someone very tall in gray, I imagined to be clothed in gray, I'm physically average in size though.

Pulsar mentioned a clan chief or guiding entity, sitting down with him eye to eye, pretty much the same what happened to me.

Alysia mentioned the lizard man. It has similar aspects to that ceremony-master-authority man I saw, as well as to this creature I saw, as this creature was animal-like, and as well perceivable through this special ceremony. Also she had a sort of "sitting" with him, like me and Pulsar.

Romain saw someone with necklace and spear, and jewelry, I had put on this glowing sphere at a neckchain, and had a long staff.


Shapeshifter and shaman Alysia? Yes, why not! Mediator between the worlds. I actually feel most of the time to be between the physical and wherever my thoughts are.


Spooky

On the mirror effect, Robert Bruce has a simple but striking theory on this. He states, when out of body, you just have no body, and that means, you haven't a frontside or a backside. When you now move in one direction, and then back, you don't need to turn around; but it might be that the interpretor gets in at some point and telling you you must have turned around, and then the confusion starts. He says when you then see your appartment mirror-reversed, and are seeing, for example, no door where you think there has to be a door, you start to make up a door where it's supposed to be, and then you find yourself in a mix of real and made up environment.

Spooky

At first, I had the assumption that I had to have absolute control over everything, and "mildly dictate" what would happen to me and when. I learned that I had to endure long gaps, and frustrations. When I "let go" and waited for guidance, I went along with the sudden shifts from one level to the next. It isn't easy to STAY in one scene for me. I would like to, but in time, I hope to be more help, rather than "The scattered observer". I have seen a few images that are very much like the hypnogogic showcase.  It's different in PE, because I have a desire to see and learn, and hopefully help. During lucid dreaming, I want to enjoy the experience like an amusement. I have been told by Spirit to "Stop worrying". I am still working on that. Outside our group, I have two friends who understand what PE is about. There are some aquaintances who will NEVER "get" it, and that's ok. It gives me more time to spend with a Higher Consciousness.