slowly losing touch which room to go into in this AKC forum, so had to make up a title of this post to reflect that its not a dream, it's like aha moments in the morning..guess thats ok, to be here then as both worlds I live in are dreams. and both are real perhaps we could have a forum on messages filtering down thru the higher self?

that would be neat! however, dream thread it shall be as I do believe we are all dreamwalkers. what a name! walking on Earth, dreaming, and we think we are all "here." nope said guidance, only the tiniest sliver of your magnificent beings are encased within your cellular structure, slowed down vibrations of thought, desire, curiosity, wonder and awe frozen in a time warp and reaching for god.
I didn't coin the term dreamwalkers. I read it and it clicked for me and so as we always say here, we speak personally and qualify our words with IMHO. (Clue: try to be humble, to not arouse the beast in man, the ego) yet fear not the beast, he blusters yet without substance and we will all step into our rightful places soon to be without fear and then it is love, unsoiled with error, which takes the place of fearful thoughts.

I was thinking on some other life this morn. where I saw such a short sad life, and nostalgia was so heavy. I don't spend a lot of time wondering if this person was really me, as if you're into the concept we are all One, you are simply, all One. been there done that sort of thinking; u want to get beyond personal identity and see what humanity is all about, and lo and behold, everybody becomes familiar when looking through the eyes of compassion at what we have done to this Earth, to nearly destroy her body and what man does to man in the name of vengence and righteousness, a veiled call for justice and to return to the principles of respect for all life, in that oneness, a feeling its all for one and one for all and no division there.
Which brings me to the brief message, the words of this morn which filtered down as I thought about how passionate this other person was in the other life, and that the same passion was still here and could use some reinforcement perhaps from my greater self.
the message was:  

Passion is division, Love is unification.

then I saw a cycle of division and unification of a cloud of mankind. its mathmatical. I got F's in math! haha!
but its principle, not math exactly and math is only a symbol, as is these words a symbol of our greater reality.

the way I saw this message was personally. passion is the opposite of depression. yet passion, unbalanced by wisdom of experience would be perhaps dangerous. and we know this, so we bridle our egos among polite society, and we adopt morals, and business rules, and work within an agreed consensus reality called the collective, where once we all agreed, the world was flat.

and yet theres a good side to passion, as its a duality world. passion allows one to be an individual and think for one's self apart from the pack. so we're thinking of cycles of humanity, and what a playground and a school as well, is the Earth plane.
and so passion does not always mean division? and yet thats the default software of passion employed. Ruled by passion, it would seem in this other life, this other me, I was at once divided from my fleshly home and those comforts and habits derived from that life, the happiness from that life was found within interaction with my group and suddenly it seemed I was to be torn from them anyway and so passion was for them and I was being taken from them and so I raised my hand against the perpetrator who would take me from them, yet still this action too, of revenge did separate me from them anyway, as I was thrust from the body. so it was a catch 22, then passion, unreinforced by wisdom of experience, for I was young, IS division by necessity!
Now we get to the 2nd part, that of unification action of love.

if it's a catch 22 world, it is a duality world, we have created in agreement. within the unification principle of love, undistorted by acts of division such as vengence for the sake of vengence, (this is coercement in no uncertain terms, such is found in religion and politics the same)  we are still obliged to skim the surface of this dream world within it's duality appearance. for it is appearance only.

Underneath the many masks we don, we will see we all are more similar than dissimilar. we are about to find our oneness during this shift. of course, IMHO! speaking personally, yet I feel already one with every one, the same love for every one, and cannot put a measurement upon what I feel to say I love one more than another one. it is life itself we must come to respect on Earth if we would get beyond the wars of division in the name of a god who is absent by appearance.

that is why I sign off with the word love. I can't think of what else I should be signing off with, and feel the need to sign off with something. alysia

hey Bets  maybe apathy is the opposite of passion? I wouldn't be saying we shouldn't have passion. passion is definetely related to the will you mentioned.
maybe over-reaction is what we're talking about. over reaction to mean reacting through offensiveness or anger which is self protective and defensive on one level, while passion has mixed in it some altruistic energy/love.

hey thanks for always being supportive of me here but here's what I figure: we all seem to come to Earth and been given one set of wings: they are folded up between the shoulder blades, unseen and not acknowledged therefore. then we all live in these cages; beating our wings in passion on the cages, sometimes injuring ourselves this way.
but maybe when the passion subsides for a moment, we lean back against our cage heavy of heart to rest for a moment and as we lean back the cage turns to jello and we thought it was substantial all the while and kept us from flying, when we just thought that. we just believed it and so it was so.
then enlightenment almost seems like an accident! har!

its the over view that is good to have, we just can't seem to keep the entire life in perspective but it certainly helps.

actually that other life I was talking about? they told me I had no choice so they didn't blame me for anything I did. it caused me to feel compassion for the first time. which was like some soul process, like when corn gets threshed. not to be down on myself, they said. the real angels said this. I was only young and with no wisdom.

and the passionate quest for knowledge continues!

Hi Vee. thanks for reading the book, my baby as I call it, as it was portrayed by guidance as a male child which grew up fast and then it was a little rascal, lol.

never had a son. guess the book will be my son. so anyhoo, if I could offer advice how to talk to the deceased loved ones, I can never thank Bruce enough givng me a clue thru his books..to "play along." to start the conversation by not caring really if it's real or not, but just to play along as if it is real and see what happens to the conversation to reveal itself, something you did not know before.

also I can describe a bit some of my first realizations I was really talking to my sister and grandmother and stepfather, all passed on. maybe it will help someone do it themselves, to settle back and pretend.
but you already spoke with your brother and dad, so thats not your question, you did make an appearance to your daughter, which indicates to my way of thinking, that you showed yourself the block is with you, not her, so thats progress.

you might try inquiring of your daughter's spiritual progress since she passed. that seems like a stronger intention that works for me to allow me to get that question answered concerning any person. I either get it consciously by pretending a conversation which takes off on its own, or sometimes I am sleeping and dreaming the communication.

if doing the imaginary conversation, it becomes a mix of word snippets, or rotes mixed with feelings passed back and forth, so you'll know what to look for. then an occassional image might take the place of words.
then if there's love there of any degree, instead of a conversation what you have is a type of communion with one another, where peace enters in to have your curiosity satisfied.

I talk of communion when I think of my grandmother. I did not know her well in life, as well as I know her now. when I sat down to imagine the conversation with her, I already knew from my mother, she was in our house, helping my mother get through a difficult time as she neared transition. the feeling was when I first sat down to do the exercise, it was just an exercise I had read in Bruce's book. not much more than that, and of course my curiosity whether it would work.
I had to pay attention to my feelings, as that's what spirit picks up best, the feelings.
my feelings were that I was a black sheep of the family, so didn't know if she would even respond to me.
I let myself feel the negativity of being separate from her, and the guilt that I had never reached out to her either. she belonged to mother, and mother had always said I did not belong in her family. (long story)  so my feelings were there and I figured she might not respond, so I was taking a chance.
Well she did respond, that she accepted me as a part of the family, and her job right then was to help mother accept me as that also.
there was more that unfolded in that imaginary conversation as it turned into something more concrete than images and words and so I call it communion.

I see you as trying to image a locale for your daughter, but maybe this is getting in your way? try to imagine that she is right in the same room with you instead, as close as your hand, maybe that will work.
what your experience may have told you is that your daughter is available to you and can see your thoughts clearly and is standing by waiting for you the next time you try.

love, alysia

Vee wrote on Aug 15^th, 2007 at 1:44pm:


Vee you're a doll to tell me this. I can confide I struggled with the writing of it, in order to relate to as large a segment of peoples as I could imagine there to be. frankly, just don't know if I succeeded or as they say, one's first book is just a promise of something greater to come.
Ironically, I am experiencing the same thing u said about my book, about Bruce's books, the 3rd time through them, I actually understand them better, because when I first read them, I didn't have those experiences yet he speaks about, so now I have had some and I'm getting that BONG! in the head and sometimes sit here laughing my head off some of his experiences are the same as mine.

when I was thinking of writing, I wanted to write since high school. but I had nothing to write about! until I started looking back. now I realize it's ok to keep books and do re-reads cause then we can see how much we have changed or grew.

so thanks again. I'm not getting any feedback except from you and a few other dear friends to me. I really need it. love, alysia

I wouldn't want to ruin the ending for you Vee! my sister is in a better place since we spoke together. its just called forgiveness..hard to do sometimes.
Mother is in a good place too, I retrieved her! that was surely quite something to describe.
We do advance, just takes awhile Vee.
Both parties need to be ready for that. we like our dramas I suppose. We've been taught it's a heaven or hell but no inbetween. Weve also been shown on TV perfect families so we try sometimes to portray perfect beaver cleavor families but its not real life.

and everywhere I look someone is addicted to something, so I understand what you're feeling.
I hope the book is not too stark for people. I had to get honest because my previous writing was so idealistic and poetic, it wasn't the truth. but there is a happy ending! you just can't share a feeling I suppose! I love learning about retrievals, and seems to be the same thing as forgiving those who trespass against us..then we start afresh.

we gotta stop blaming parents once we get to a certain age Vee..we are not of our parents..we just come through their bodies. and we are not our bodies.

the good thing I might mention about sis, is for her spiritual growth, at the time she was bitter, she nonetheless was working on the other side with horses, which was like her gift to the world even when she was here. so the happy part is that we even have existance after we leave our bodies and can continue doing what we liked to do growing at our own pace.
seems like my book is bringing you to a crash sort of. we'll get beyond it together. love ya! alysia

still, they are together now, right? and you were the bridge to bring them together, so even if your dad was not jumping up and down with joy to see him, it must have been ok to bring them together or it just wouldn't have happened to my estimation.
you probley have stronger family values than they do. generally whats been built on this side gets carried over into the other side, whatever has been left unmended, still needs mending but can be done, or must be done to my perspective if everyone wants that healing, and most do.
love, alysia
hang in, we'll all get to the same place eventually.