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My Dad gave me a message...
May 14th, 2007 at 10:37am
 
It was very important and he needed to make sure I knew he was indeed completing his studies and training up there.


"I'm learning how to live in a Christian body."


When my Dad was growing up he was raised a Baptist.  My Grandparents never made him go to church or anything like that but if he was asked his religious preference he would say he was Baptist.

After he returned from Vietnam he wasn't the same person.  He drank and smoked pot and kept to himself much more.  He was his platoon leader (Army) and saw many of his fellow soldiers die.  He himself was shot down out of a helicopter and suffered some gunshot wounds to his back and bottom, not to mention the most horrible of all, being sprayed with Agent Orange.

My Aunt and Uncle decided that my Dad needed God in his life more than ever.  They saw how much he had changed and it scared them.  They basically tried to shove religion down his throat and he told them to leave him alone once and for all because he didn't believe in God.

My Mom always said she didn't think he meant it, he only said it to get my Aunt and Uncle off his back and it worked.  

When he learned he had terminal cancer he told his wife he didn't want a funeral service.  He had been to too many funerals in his life and he didn't want some preacher he didn't even know reciting bible verses and carrying on like they do.  He wanted to be cremated and in place of a wake he wanted friends and family to come to his house and be together and eat and share memories.  We held a memorial for him which I think he would have really been pleased with.

Sorry to go on that big spill but I felt like I should tell a little bit about why this dream is so significant.  His eyes were sparkling the way they always would when he got excited about something, he was smiling his big, toothy grin, and love and peacefulness eveloped him.  I felt like he needed to let me know he was just fine and I didn't need to worry.

About a month ago he came to me in a dream and he also gave words of comfort then too.  He said, "I'm not upset she's dating Thomas."  He's referring to his wife.  When my Grandmother died on April 16th the latest rumor about his wife was that she was already dating again.  I was totally POd about it and I couldn't get it off my mind, and I guess he needed to tell me he wasn't upset and that I shouldn't be either.  I haven't given it another thought since he told me that.  

Thanks for reading this.  I know it was kinda long.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - May 16th, 2007 at 12:20am
 
thats sweet story Kate. dont' worry how long it is...u should see some of my former posts..I scared everyone off Grin Smiley   I'm glad your dad still dropping by and telling you not to worry. and I see hes not the jealous type!  a Christian body, must be like a Christed body of light. well I'm not surprised! ask him what else he's doing, I'm always curious.

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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2007 at 12:01pm
 
Thanks Alysia.  Grin

I'm glad to know he doesn't want me to worry.
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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2007 at 1:38pm
 
This is a wonderful breakthrough Kate.

More frequent visits and information will come.

Open your perception, you will be rewarded with loving and verifiable evidence, of your contact.

Frequency and regulairty, are the keys to unlock this potential within you.

Your link of Love is your strongest tool.

Eternal Love always.

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Reply #4 - May 29th, 2007 at 3:47pm
 
Rick,

Thanks so much for that response.  I wanted to tell you and Alysia that I've already had another dream with my Dad giving me yet another message.

I am having some major trouble with my husband's family (IL's... what can you do?) and he is basically going to have to choose between them and me.  They are a sick bunch of people and they don't like me much.  Because I'm too nice!  Grin

Anyway, this is really been stressful for both my husband and me and I've been praying about what I should do.  About 4 nights ago I dreamed my phone rang and it was my Dad calling.  I picked up and said "Hello?" and his voice was just as clear as day:  "Don't do it, P."  P is short for Peanut which was/is his nickname for me since I was a baby.

I remember feeling my heart pound and my eyes bugging out at hearing his voice because I was asking myself how it was possible that he was calling?  He has already passed!

Nothing else was said but I got the distinct feeling he was warning me - obviously.

I love him.  Smiley
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Reply #5 - May 29th, 2007 at 9:19pm
 
Kate, what was he warning you against? does it have to do with making your husband choose between his family or you?
I don't think he will be able to choose. thats definetely a hard road to go. ideally the family should respect the new family unit and get out of the way of it. unfortunately, things don't work that way in reality. you may be spiritually tested right now dear. your dad loves you too! alysia
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Reply #6 - May 30th, 2007 at 1:29pm
 
Alysia,

Yes, I think his warned directly relates to the situation with my in-laws.  They want me to go to their house and apologize for something I didn't do.  I have put up with their malice, lies, and just flat out psychotic behavoir since I met my husband.  His sister tried to ruin our wedding and then she tried to ruin the babyshower his family wanted to give for me.  I don't know how on earth folks can live in such a twisted reality like they do.  There's constant conflict and drama going on with them and if they aren't mad at someone in the family then things aren't 'right'.   They never came to terms with the passing of a close relative and their mental states have spiraled out of control.  His Aunt's two teenaged daughters ran away and stayed with friends for a while last year because it got so bad.

What they want to do is get me over there and trap me.  I don't know what else my Dad would've been referring to in his message.  I feel like he knows the situation I'll find myself in if I agree to go there and try to talk to them.  My husband is scared to stand up to his Aunt because she's the one who creates the problems.  He's also hesistant because she's really the only family left other than his Grandmother.  She lives with his Aunt and they sort of feed each other's emotions and egg the drama on.  The Grandmother is one of those bible thumpers, as we down South like to call them, so she hails from the old school southern Baptist ways of the real hellfire and brimstone.  She can quote any bible verse and anytime she gets upset she starts in with all the biblical references and the holy rollin' ranting and raving about good vs evil,  the devil working his evil on you, and children of God, etc.   I know she's in her 70's and she's set in her ways but sometimes I'd like to stick an apple in her mouth.  

Sorry for that long story but I wanted to explain the situation.  I know my Dad wouldn't want me to go over there.  I didn't do a single solitary thing to any of them so there's nothing for me to apologize for.  They Aunt keeps telling my husband he needs to "get control over his wife".   If my Dad was still here he'd say they were nuts and to stay away, and let my husband handle them because they're his family.  I think that's why he said "Don't do it" in my dream.  I could be wrong but there's really nothing else going on right now that's worrying me.  

I'm definately being spiritually tested.  I've never dealt with people like this, this extreme and displaced, before in my life.  I let them steamroll over me too many times and because I've put my foot down I'm the new enemy.  I won't let them ruin any more holidays or be the subject of their jokes and nastiness.  

After all I do every day:  work full time, care for two kids, pick up and take them to daycare, do all the house work myself, cook....  the last thing I need is them trying to convince me I'm the problem.  

Okay, vent over.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - May 31st, 2007 at 3:39pm
 
Kate,

Stay on track, and do not let this door that you have opened, to your Father, close. IL's can be a problem.

The question that should be in your mind right now, is how strong is your husbands love for you.

You state that he has to choose between you or his family, I am sure that he will choose you, over family. Family comes around eventually, even if it takes twenty years. And they will get over it.

We are around the people we choose to be around, this is something that is planed by us, before we incarnate into this experience. These are all members of our soul groups, your family, friends and everyone that you briefly encounter in your life, even me.

If you are questioning this, think about everytime you go to the mall, shop, walk around, and get in your car to go home. Sometimes you do not encounter a soul that you know. It is like they are just props to enhance your experience.

If by some chance, sometime, you do run into someone you know, it is usually for a reason.

Do not be to quick to think that they are always picking on you. You said it yourself, they think you are too nice. Maybe they just want to tuffen you up a little bit so you do not get hurt by strangers, taking advantage of you. I know that it sometimes seems, that people are up to no good, and sometime they are. Good people become good spirits, and bad people become bad spirits.

But here we have family envolved, members of your soul group. I have had family experiences as well, and have wondered why I was treated that way. As I look back, it seemed it was only to make me stronger. Sometime we are put into situations, to see how we handle them.

So, what I truly want to say is, surround yourself with positivity, love and light, and try to evaluate the situation and see if there is something lacking in you, a weakness that needs to be strenghted. As long as you stay focused, and keep light and love around you, you will get through this.

I know you will do the right thing, and this will soon be behind you.

Listen to dad's messages, his protection, will help, and strenghten you. His message may not be there to warn you, but to guide you.

If you have anything of a more sensitive, or private issue, that i can help you with, I am always here for you, through a PM, or my website e-mail. ricktimet@yahoo.com

God Bless you Kate. be strong

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Reply #8 - May 31st, 2007 at 9:42pm
 
Rick has good things to say... Smiley

the more I read you and your dad Kate, it just seems like life is too short to drink sour wine and that your dad is telling you don't go over to someone else's house if the intention u already know is to be hashing over some problem which somebody else has, that you never claimed there was a problem in the first place.  if they invite you for tea and crumphets, well, that's different, but they already want to extract something from you, rather than give something to you...like Rick says, it has purpose to them, but the choice is yours in the end, for you to be fullfilling someone else's expectations bout how you should behave.

I think the spiritual test in the end, is not whether or not to comply with their wishes, but to check your reaction monitor within your own self and to keep a check on the anger you are feeling so that it does not disrupt your own home life, which I'm sure you have a lovely little family, and that it's your job to keep peace in your own household, not someone else's.

I wish you strength, and I say again, you are one blessed person to have your dad looking after you! love, alysia
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Reply #9 - Jun 1st, 2007 at 3:53pm
 
Rick,

Thank you for the support and words of encouragement.  I understand what you're saying and I want to get along with them again, I really do.  I guess the question I have had to ask my self and really think about is, how many more times should I allow them to call the shots, dictate what my family does on holidays, come to their home for all their birthdays when they always forget about ours, and subject myself to the turmoil they place themselves in because of their bad decisions.  They are always the victims and the world is their enemy.  I can't tell you how stress free and peaceful my life has been since I stopped seeing them in February.  Since they cannot gain access to me, they are browbeating my husband which puts him in the middle of it.  He then begs me to fix things while knowing full well what will happen if I go to their home and attempt to patch things.

Alysia,  thank you very much too for your support.  You are right -it would be to their benefit and not mine if I went there.  Why my husband would even want to put me in that situation is the big question just as you said, Rick.  My husband did choose me over them because I did nothing to them but they will not leave him alone.  His Aunt calls him horrible names, treatens to alienate him from their family, and whatever else she can think of next as each week passes and I don't submit to them.  What kind of "family" is that?  He's sick of it all too.

Right now I'm going to stay away from them as I have been.  After I got his Grandmother's letter in the mail last weekend I can see that the pot is still boiling.  I cannot go over there and expect them to act in a civilized manner - it ain't happening.

I'll continue to remain open to my Dad's messages as he sends them through.  I just know in my heart of hearts he wouldn't want me to go over there BUT in all honesty he would tell me that we can't go on avoiding each other for the rest of our lives.  

sigh.  How do I get myself in these situations?  I think this experience has toughened me up, Rick.  And it's funny because I'm not the kind of person who puts up with BS.  I think that's why they don't like me right now, because I won't play their game, I won't throw fuel on their fire.  The quieter I stay the madder and crazier they become.  It'll work itself out I'm sure and hopefully soon.

Thank you both again so much for your insight and support.  It's helping me keep things in perspective and since my Dad isn't here anymore in body, I feel kinda alone sometimes.  You guys are very sweet.

Luv!
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Kate

perhaps you could mentally ask your dad to explain a little more about what he meant.  He might be referring to some response you will have to something in the future. That was a fairly explicit statement, and you already know not to go over to your relative's house. M aybe you could ask for a clarification
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Reply #11 - Jun 1st, 2007 at 9:47pm
 
Kate I just had a brilliant idea Smiley  when the baby's asleep, sit quietly for five minutes and call the higher self of the ruler, (the aunt, or the granny?) into a two way conversation which you would make up in your head. just make it all up. ask a question, then answer the question from the aunt's side. then conclude it favorably.
this usually fixes problems for me. let me know what happens. Smiley

I called her the ruler, as I'm seeing this Italian family, and the elder female always rules over everybody and forces her goolosh on the others to eat..lol...
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Reply #12 - Jun 1st, 2007 at 10:07pm
 
Lucy and Alysia,

I am going to try both of your suggestions right now.  Judson is asleep and he should stay that way for a few more hours.  My Mom and my daughter and I played with him for two hours and tired him out, so I'm going to take advantage of the free quiet moments I'm having now (it's quite nice Smiley) and do those two things.

A top tooth just cut through for him so I know it won't be long till the irritabilty wakes him up.  

I'll let you know how I fare.  I suppose it might not happen right away but I'll keep trying.  I'm willing to try anything.

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Reply #13 - Jun 4th, 2007 at 1:47pm
 
Kate,

You are right, one must do, what one must do, to keep peace in ones life.

Alysia's idea is by far the way to go at this point. Not being there, or around your family, it is hard to imagine what the whole situation is, to truly evaluate it.

If you can't get through to them in the physical, then get through to them in the non-physical, by way of imagination. Let your thoughts make an impression on their consciousness. It might make them think, and mentally condition them.

Anyway it is a way to illevate some of the stress. Also positive thought can reshape your reality. Before going to bed each night, state the affirmation, "[i]My life is peaceful and calm, and nothing can harm or affect me, and my relatives are treating me the way I wish to be treated."i]

Try this also if nothing else works. Do this every night for seven days. Your subconscious will conect with the universe, so God and his loving spirits can send the proper energies for their conversion.

If they start up again, repeat the process, until they cease to be the way they are.

PUL always Kate,
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Reply #14 - Jun 7th, 2007 at 9:53pm
 
Rick,

That's an awesome suggestion.  I will start this tonight.

I'm so glad I have you all.  I count myself lucky.
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