I've never heard of a second death..where did you learn this?

Kroan, are you talking about the dissipation of the etheric body?   This is kind of the go between of the physical and nonphysical energies, but ultimately more physical in nature so that it eventually dissipates after death, how long depending on the spiritual developement of the person and other factors.

  The etheric is the same vibratory range or energy, of which the classic OBE is connected to, and thus seems more "real" to a physically incarnate person when phasing into that energy/vibratory range.

  Those who get stuck such as those called ghosts, generally are stuck within their etheric, and etheric-emotional "levels" (vibratory ranges/spectrum).

  How people become stuck, well that's a pretty big question and i'm sure it varies case to case somewhat, but in general people become stuck when too overly material minded, or addicted to physical earth energies and experiences in some way.  People who were substance or sex addicts in physical life, tend to get stuck more often for example.  Also, being rather unloving towards others whatever your beliefs, sometimes produces or correlates with stuckness, but of course those with strong atheistic beliefs who are rather unloving and self centered tend to become stuck more than those with some sort of belief in the afterlife.   Course those latter too in a sense become stuck, but not quite as often as "ghosts" but rather in a belief system territory as some call it which is generally less upsetting, frightening, and unpleasant than the ghost type stuckness.   Then the afterlife hells which are even worse than that.

  Particularly strong beliefs, as well as overly grounded ways of being, tend to lead to stuckness.   Sometimes powerful emotional issues at or around time of death, can lead to stuckness.  Again, it varies somewhat but there are also often common themes and averages too.

  Some say the physical as we know and experience it was manifested out of our collective stuckness and our choices of moving away from Source's way of being.   If true, i guess you could call the physical earth a place of particularly strong stuckness, which is why its always a gamble for even very spiritually mature Souls with an intent to help to come in, because there is a good chance of forgetting too much and too long of what their original intent, knowledge, etc., is before they incarnated.

Hello ricktimet,

From what you say it seems possible that a soul who gets stuck on certain ideas could bring those ideas and emotions based upon them back into a following life-- You said in order to move on in life, one needs to put the Earth life they lived behind them. So you're saying that we might not be stuck in M&M's focus 23, but we might be stuck with some feelings that came from another life, right?

Do I understand right that you speak from your own experience as well as your reading in religious traditions? So you don't believe that karma is necessary? All that is needed is enough self-respect to free ourselves (and accept the Love of the Highest Source)?

I appreciate your views on this,
Bets

you brought up an interesting question Kroan. I'm thinking we have 7 bodies to shed eventually which can be seen as form which eventually can be seen as an orb on the Earth level, but I'm just exploring ideas like yourself.

the reason I think of this orb form is I had an experience as an orb, but I'm sure it was astral material I was using.
the stuck ones, are I'm assuming a process for certain folks, as mentioned, a sudden death is one where there was no preparation and one could be taken by surprise as it were, for the experience perhaps, but they are in a timeless state, not watching the clock so to speak.

I can see a ghost in some cases as the etheric body. unless the ghost talks to you, then I can see that perhaps as the emotional body and intact with memories, or attachments to this plane, you might say stuck. you might say lack of objective mind, in a timeless state.
some call this a dream type world. I suppose that would be correct too.
the extention of PUL tends to awaken the stuck ones to greater objectivity and memory.
then we have the mental body, the causal body, the etheric body, the emotional body (astral) the physical, perhaps the 7th is the light body which is never separate from All That is.  thats only 6. we need one more body. I really have forgotten the esoteric books I read a long time ago.

my theory is based on a holographic universe, as Rick says, thoughts are things, and thoughts tend to reproduce after themselves like thoughts, as in holographic proportion as even there are dimensions sliding off of one another. our bodies would be a microcosm composite of the macrocosm universe.
(lol. what did I just write?    this process of stuckness requires movement of course of energy and it will happen as in process which has not much to do with linear time passing, and retrieving is to assist evolution, or the process, to increase the energy field of the retrievee in vibration with love factor. (nonjudgment)

getting stuck is easy though and I think just means lack of creative thought process when living a life of forgetfulness here. PUL causes memory enhancement of who you really are. love, alysia
good thread.

Rick said:  Those that have past life regressions, and those that feel that they have lived before, are just impressions, by other spirits in their soul group.
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you could be correct, but in our oneness with our soul group, I do believe it cannot be called just impressions. the nearest I can see this communication problem between the individual and the group soul composite, called essence in some circles, is that choosing breeds individuality by self determination and reflecting on intentions and will here, while in a body. in that sense we have a brand new consciousness.

yet consider we are all not in the same place in spiritual evolvement and our control of reality creating. it becomes important to ask why we do not stand all in the same place while living in a body. looking upon other lives, to view our oneness is one answer. looking beyond linear lives, as in the reincarnation thesis, and seeing and understanding, what has gone before still yet lives in sideral dimension, as in being one with these others who are also us, this answers the question, for me. it would also explain something called retroactive mind shifting, self retrievals, time travels, viewing one's future self as well, to see the evolvement movie of humanity as all exploding into being at once unto a projectory movie screen.
then the question is answered only in a basic way why some are further along the path of controlling their passions, their thoughts towards or out of the concept of suffering and into the concept of life is a gift to enjoy. All of these, that are ours, that we can glimpse are belonging to us specifically explains perfectly why we experience the problems or challenges that we may face in the here and now as this person.

In the glimpses I was given, I was the person who did the deed. I was in that body. It was I who raised the knife. it was I who chose to undo my crime within this other alternate, simultaneous life. and I was passionate, and I am still that passionate person, I recognized myself. It also explains why mother hated me. She had perfect logic to hate what had killed her. I had perfect logic to come and regain her trust and get back to the love that we had for one another through the act of wiping the slate clean through this very real, loving, giving to the other, foregiveness, giving as before the deed took place.

On the other hand, the victim is choosing to be in the drama where they may become victim and they can see they want to be here, they want to experiment, they want any life at all for a chance to evolve and gain mastery and be released from whatever, into the joy of accomplishing our intentions to be in the Earth.

So I'm just saying it was more than a spirit impressing itself unto my conscious field, say, look, this is what I did, heres an image for you to think about. I had to accept I alone was responsible for this early sad experience of being rejected by my psychic mother. accepting my responsibility, in turn caused me to release obligation for mother to show me any love at all. I accepted her with her faults, she accepted me with mine. that was foregiveness, which is hard to do here, but I believe we can only rise to that. Foregiveness may be as high as we can reach insofar as spiritual evolvement.

BUT!!!!!  true foregiveness frees the soul inside to a sublime level of joy. Imagine how all nagging thoughts can vacate the mind who has released every thought of doom and gloom, struggle and strife.
suddenly, you can hear the birds sing. you don't feel the weight of the world. you know we all can come to this.

I know I've had many lives and that I now have a choice whether I will be conscious and active in yet another. as well, some "curls" as told by Monroe, have about them a greater light of remembrance even after emerging from the process of the memory wipeout, so that they will be a new individual, they have earned the right to remember through making the right choices to not do harm, specifically killing.

but I will not try to convince any I've lived here before because I have no science developed yet to build my communication. but I'm working on that. I like to concentrate on the PUL aspect as it is an expansive energy, and thinking of PUL as an energy, is quite scientific, don't u think?   haha! I take classes from Dave here. love, alysia

cool Rick. same here, to enlighten not to frighten.

I know sometimes impressions can come from spirits and it may not be a past life at all, in other cases I am certain that it is not linear time we need to view these other selves in, but as in a situation of being connected to these others in a group thing, and a simultaneous explosion of life happening in every time frame we can time travel to view our other selves as Monroe did and many others.

I'd say it's better to practice the art of intentional knowing rather than take another's word for it.  thank you for sharing all that you do. love, alysia

Hi Rick, I've been to your site and didn't notice whether you had a forum?
I'll go check again.
I would like to be able to talk about some experiences of time travel, out of linear time and meeting a person frequently and also some other time travels which out pictured.

sounds like a good book you have there. I've found since I wrote my book my mind expanded to a state of non duality where I see both sides of the situation simultaneously, then I found I have an endless supply of conceptualization, of words. so then I like to write of these time travels with people who are also time traveling and I can sometimes get even more rotes by writing it down and perhaps I can pick up some tips from others who would immediately understand what I'm writing.
the beautiful person may be the other half of you..I am grasping at something to understand also, that one being could have split in two and then rejoin.

so talk later, thanks again

ps. you have a comma after  the .com which prevents surfing there, you might want to delte the comma