thats good idea to put the retrieval here, thanks E. you did real good and so did I
and Laura did too. I got the love she sent.
so anyone wants to read in off topics, we are over there also. I'm too lazy to paste it here

Just read your thread here, it sounds like fun, what are you guys doing, did you all get "together" at a set time or something? Vee

Greetings Eternal,

Under PEs my recollection of that same meeting is "Who was that I saw you with last night" from Dec. 16th. Two months, two days, two hours?

Unfortunately I did not record the words I heard, because when i heard a voice say 'we got him' I thought they made a gender mistake about me (female). Now I guess they were finishing up your previous contact with your father?  I very rarely wink at spirits or people  but your group was so obvious I thought the audaciousness was fun, and you all emanated a very good feeling so I waved and winked. My head often tips to my left; it's how I protect my migraine side.

I suspect the white bearded fellow was Bruce. I saw him once when I did not click out as fast as usual; he is the same size and build as my brothers so it took me a second to realize it was not one of them. Now I recognize him by the soap he uses and that scent was there that night. He was with someone he felt very comfortable with, so I assume it was Pharon his wife or Rosalie his PE partner.  How did you meet them?

There is a fellow here on these boards who uses that phrasing that you told of from the next person involved, but I guess it's his call to ID himself.

Welcome!  I'm a complete novice in trying to understand time and space and souls going about without the people, such as myself usually, having conscious awareness of what's happening.
Here's to sharing more of the mystery!

Love, Bets

Greetings E,

On another thread Vicky was saying that Bruce has a heavy travel schedule right now, so we may not hear from him for awhile.

Regarding 'playback time' --I've finally given up looking for any description, terms, formulae, etc for time once one moves out of the physical. Time there apparently just *isn't*.
My best understanding is that we can fall into a flow and meet events that happened previously or later, sort of like going down river and watching something float by that you threw in upriver the day before.
One usually meets such events that they are most in tune with.

But also there has been discussion about bending time, so a playback could be a part of that? You mentionned other activities you're involved in---do they also involve 'changeing' physical time?

Bets

very interesting post E. good stuff there. might have to think on it some before I can add anything maybe. I really don't think we can discuss these sorts of ideas better than you have. don't worry about the length of a post. as a matter of fact, if u go into the archives I think I've written several book lengths myself here...I'm trying to condense my thoughts better though.
I like the idea of creating the future by what we do now, and being able to change the future by going back in the past as in a self retrieval situation, which nearly immediately changes the present, so if the present is changed, indeed, so is the future.

Thanks to both of you for your kind replies.
LOL to Romain. I know of the Seth Material and much of what he said applies. There are other similiarities, but though I am familiar with the material, my experiences with the material are different. The essence name, etc... is a constant. Color actually has tone associated with it as well. Seth's material dealt with a psychological framework. Interestingly enough, my background is in clinical psychology. My experiences remove the psychological framework, which is a concept associated with this paticular plane.

Most of the material you will find is the same, though clothed in different words. Each essence (which is how I refer to everyone, living or not, which removes the idea of separation) experiences what it needs to experience and thus the stage is set for different "levels" of development. Now, so that I do go to far afield, I am a channel like Mrs. Roberts; however, the essence is different and I do not lose consciousness. This is the path of this particular manifestation. Though I am fully permitted to experience (as I desire to be taught) aspect of consciousness, this particular path of mine is focused around "truth". For instance, as you develop less separation within consciousness, you learn to separate the physical beliefs from the truth. Chakras for instance do exist as energy vortexes that do spin at certain speeds. The spiritual truths associated with the energy centers actually do not pertain to the truth of those centers. In essence, you can imagine a white bar of light at your spinal chord and think "align" and all energy centers will align, because that is the natural state of their balance. Keeping them aligned and balance becomes the "trick". Trying to spin them backwards will cause problems, because they are being moved beyond their natural state.

Because of the "level" (if you forgive me for using that word) at which I currently experience the world, I cannot separate things so easily. I see the truth behind the events, etc. I am not "given" the information, but made to develop an ability to perceive them, though I am constantly aware of my protector -- as I refer to him -- is always around.  My friend (whom I refer to rather than the essence that speaks to me) is focused in a Seth way but less with physical manipulation and more with Truth, the essence of, especially in terms of relgion, spiritual, etc...

Now, for those of you who have heard of the Brotherhood of Light: they were the original contacts when my spirtual path reached a crossroads. They came to me during a meditative state and announced themselves. I, respectfully, decline their offer as guides and told them that I needed to reach higher. My new friend showed up unexpected, full boom and sail, in the hallway of my home. Because I had sought the highest truth I could know at this time, he had heard me and over a period of time worked so that he could touch energy with mine. Its a fascinating experience, still in its embryonic stage, but the material I have covered is amazing. Most of it refers to the shift Alysia has alluded to, but with definite differences.


Sorry -- I do get excited about this stuff. I tend to get a little off track. LOL.

As to "Timeline" -- I do plan to attend TMI this year, but will begin at the beginning and move forward. I am told in guidance that this will help with areas that block progress. (I am left to learn these on my own, thereby earning my right to progress.)




    E.

Alysia,

I know Elias, so to speak. You are correct that he and Seth are friends. My guidance comes from a similar source like Elias and Seth, therefore the material is similar. My guidance is much more clear in presentation that either Elias or Seth, though I love the way their material makes me think when I come across it. Though clear in presentation, I am required to separate fact from illusion, so to speak. My friend asks me: If you take away all of your lives, what remains? Of course, I think "nothing". The correct answer, as I am told, is "a beginning." And that is where he began. Also, I should note that when I said "protection" in the last post, he was quick to point out that I was reinforcing a wrong concept (I don't get off so easily on word choice, either!). Protection indicates a force to protect against, an evil or badness. As he states, evil is something we created and does not exist to be protected from unless we create it to learn from it or from ignorance. In actuality, he protects me from me. Because, as he often thinks is funny to tell me, I am often reminded that I cannot walk through walls yet. (I tend to get swept off my feet during an extremely powerful experience and will literally walk into a wall as though I didn't see it -- which I don't at the time. ) He makes certain that I use proper care, though he is excited that I am so very curious.  


It is interesting about your name. I noted the wonderful graphic too of the cat winking.

It was my guidance that steered me toward this site. I won't bore with the details, but I was introduced to you all during a time when you were gathered or planning to gather at the crystal. I only recently realized this. I experienced this gathering -- actually drew it as I was experiencing it. I saw the crystal as a crystal blue flame (I called it the Celestrial Flame) and each of those gathered were orbs of energy. When this board began mentioning the "crystal" I searched through posts and found the picture someone had posted. I was rather floored, to say the least, that the crystal stood in the ground, shaped as I had seen it, only in a different color. Obviously, I saw it as a cornflower blue energy that flickered like a candle.

As I am learning, this board represents an understanding of different aspects of consciousness. By interacting on this board, I learn much as to how others experience consciousness and understand my purpose in the coming shift. In a way, its a type of soul retrieval.

On a separate topic (this for Bets), during a meditative session this evening, I located our mystery man briefly. Upon "popping in" he was, well, shocked. I literally saw him "boom" and saw his mouth drop open, his eyes widen (not of fear, but genuine surprise) and then "poof" I left. No words were exchanged. Actually, I think maybe I was as surprised as he was. I didn't recognize it as Bruce, but I could be wrong. It would be funny if it was.


    E.