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Jan 28th, 2007 at 1:02am
 
Smiley Einstein said imagination is better than knowledge. he said I could quote him and he wouldn't sue me Cheesy

allright. me daughter came home after visiting a friend over by the coastline whose landlord had just blown his head off, leaving a son and dog behind. As the two girls discussed the fact that the son was not attending to the needs of the dog, his father's dog and what a pity, the lights flickered on and off.
I really must find another place to live said Amber, the tenant who worried her small child would be affected by a ghost.

I immediately knew James, if that is his name, was trying to express gratitude that Amber had taken the dog under her wing being an animal lover. I had heard about James a while back, I think it's been several months but I didn't assume he was grounded to the death scene, not everybody is, even suicidal folks get themselves where they are supposed to go but when I heard about the flickering lights I knew I had to do a retrieval, although several months linear time is just a day or so to James, maybe I could help out so he could get on with it.

I got next to him in my mind and asked him why he had done it. I got some information that things had been piling up on him, something happened that was like the final straw that broke the camel's back but I got no more details other than money was a part of it, and I don't understand money driving you to kill yourself, but it has happened. hear it happens in vegas a lot too.
so we're talking and I say James I know a better place for you, let's go look for it, lets just fly up and look around, see what's there, he didn't give me much trouble, seeming to realize he had wasted himself and know if he wanted to make an impression on anybody, it certainly wasn't going to happen at the death scene.
I resolved to try and let the son know his father was disappointed he wouldn't attend the dog out of respect for the father.
as we floated upward we weren't up very far before I saw his mother descending towards us..I questioned why his mother and not another guide and got that she had been trying to get his attention out there for these months but needed my assistance as retriever go between. i was glad to see them get together even though she started to give him the once over for his actions. He was torn between guilt and happiness to see her, he reverted to little boy in emotions. What she tried to instill was disapline as a mother would. I followed a short distance enjoying this interaction, eavesdropping as it were. the mother turned and told me she had the situation well under control. James was still dancing with emotion that he wasn't all alone anymore and began explaining once more how the final straw had pushed him to do what he had done, the mother was like, oh yea, just wait until I get u back to my place young man! I'll tell you what the alternatives could have been!
he accepted she was right and was ready to listen to her as he was just so relieved she was there.
I was happy with the retrieval as I understand. if you've ever drifted out there like a ghost you can understand how dam lonely it is when no one can see you or hear you, its like you don't matter anymore to anyone and u don't belong anywhere
I will see if I get anything in the dream state to support this retrieval as authentic as my dreams tend to back me up, especially the lucid ones are jumping off points into greater awareness zones of non/physical reality
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this is how they appeared as a pair..only he was running towards her, and she was anxious to set him straight, just as might happen in normal life circumstances where a mother tries to help her children. or a friend tries to offer counseling.
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Reply #1 - Jan 28th, 2007 at 3:54pm
 
So glad to read of this retrieval, Alysia. What a relief it must have been to him, to connect with a loving familiar face! I wonder why Guides can't get our attention when we die, what is that blockage? Is it the newness of the sensory system, Non physical? Or what? Anyway. Here I go to post yesterday's retrieval attempt. Vee.
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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 6:37pm
 
Hi Alysia,
yes it seems to be...once mother/child, always mother/child. I recently had a very bad dream, and after the bad part, I was together with my mother and felt what I only can call "mother's warmth"; this all surrounding safe and warm feeling. I was aware that I was grown up, but at the same time, after this terrible part before, I was just a little baby again.

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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2007 at 7:36pm
 
I think age out there is irrelevant really Spooky, like its a role we play here, like stages a soul wears for the experience, say, of being in certain consciousness clothes.

my big sister liked the way she looked at age 13. so thats the age she appeared to mother as once, (her first visit back to earth). unfortunately, my mother grew confused and didn't recognize her.

this pissed off Joan. you've probably heard this story before, lol, I'm running out of good stories to pass on. but the point is we are as young as we feel and take the form we wish once we transition and once we realize we've transitioned and can do that. love, alysia
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Reply #4 - Feb 7th, 2007 at 12:01pm
 
To laffingrain:

Very god retriveal, I got a warm feeling, and could see through my soul perception, the scene playing out, as the mother arrived. I have been out of body when there is no one around, it is extremely lonely. It is at these times I quickly focus my attention to another place, or return to my body.

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Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2007 at 1:28pm
 
thanks for the read and response Spooky, Vee and Rick.
Vee, theres something in a vibrational sense when a recently departed...(in a linear sense) spirit is drawn to the physical dimension, perhaps to the scene of their death.

its sad but I've heard many try to get back into their bodies and animate them once more unless they were cremated. this I'm sure a temporary right of passage, part of the life review process I'm sure although it sounds bizarre.

what I wanted to say, theres this blinder on the retrievee's perception, like this: ...

this prevents the peripheral perception from seeing anything but the experience of truama they just went through, and explains their inability to let loose of the physical life because in their mind, the death that occurred was supposed to end their frustration with the physical world problems. they cannot tune into the afterworld opportunities when their focus is wholly upon what they just opted out of, then they might see, like this fellow above, that what they did was create another problem and I suspect James was at the least wanting his dog to be taken care of, because his love of dog was important but getting thru to his son to take charge also was making him see only these problems, but not the mom who would eventually be there for him once he thought about her. so the retriever makes a bridge....distracts them from their stuckness for a minute, just long enough they can focus on moving away from the scene they are stuck in.

does this explain your question? I know, I've worked on this question quite a bit, why physical guides would be needed at all, I think they can just speed up things, get things moving along to where they are going anyway...well, like this, where if you are a photographer, you want your subject to look straight at the camera so you can click their picture...you might wave your hand at them, say, look over here...then just when they get focused on your tangible hand you click the picture, no, that doesn't explain it, but its something about our physical vibration when we are out there that is different from the nonphysical guide's vibration which allows the attention to be gained. I wish I could explain it better, how physical retrievers can be helpful to speed things up, all this time we're talking about movement of consciousness versus non movement and vibration.

several retrievals I've noticed how the retrievee's eyes will slowly move to the nonphyscial guide who is trying to get their attention that they cant see...I've seen their head turn ever so slowly to fasten upon the guide..then I know I'm out of there, its really quite joyful to see their eyes open with wonder, makes me grin every time! I also noticed my mind connects onto the guide, then with this energy connection I look at the retrievee and ask them to look at the guide, so like a 3way bridge happens.

out there its not like here. we have our problems and we can always go and distract ourselves from some problem, take a warm bath or whatever, on the other side, they just can't distract themselves by doing some action and need a little shove out of the box.

love, alysia
I've heard they are still considering themselves to be physical beings also and that is a reason not to see the nonphysical helpers. first rule of thumb: realize you are dead! lol, I mean we can build an afterlife situation but what if you've never built one?
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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2007 at 10:21pm
 
I love your explanations and analogies here Alysia.   Smiley
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2007 at 4:12pm
 
...  hello dear, I still have you in my heart...just waving hello. Smiley  also I figured this might be a good time to use the bathtub icon...hee hee hee....

love, and bubble on I guess...
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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 10:43pm
 
Yes, I can see that that is probably about it, most likely that is what happens, we are just a momentary distraction. Like when the asian young man who experienced execution after he had died in New York traffic already, when his friend appeared when he was getting out of the race car there, and took him to the military place, and I was allowed to go along to watch, it was like, we don't need her here to accomplish any of this now that we have his attention, but, might as well let her watch and learn.

I had already served my purpose but they generously let me tag along. And I thought THIS life was strange at times!! I have been thinking about the angels I often use and call on to try to ease a tough situation. Look at the evidence here: we have the POWER to call on angelic beings...whoever and whatever they are, NP beings who easily morph into angel shapes and brightness to achieve the goal desired, and they have the most amazing effect.

There was a situation I used angelic beings once about three years ago, and the result was unbelievable. A violent, abusive, hopeless situation was totally healed for about ten days straight, because the house became filled with angel beings who also hovered over the house and filled up our hearts and everything in the house changed for about ten days.

I remember looking at the evidence that this could be used continaully to keep healing the situation, but I couldn't bring myself to believe I deserved this help. I was embarrassed to keep asking. Of course it rapidly deteriorated after a while back to the same old, same old.

But I never forgot the incredible transformation in the behavior of the abuser with all those angels around. Proving, he needed love very badly and was getting it from them. When my confidence wavered, he lost his source of love energy...it was up to me to keep it coming.

So then, when I think about all this, it seems to me, we have, like, a TOOL to use and we have a responsibility to use it, often, for healing of difficult and painful situations we encounter for ourselves and others. It seems there is no limit to the number I can call on, that night, I called "Calling All Angels, Calling All Angels" and imagined hundreds of them coming in to caretake our home.

So that is probably just the use of conscious awareness of LOVE and using it to make things better...I am rambling here, trying as usual to make sense of things...but since joining this BOARD, THE AMAZING BOARD, my confidence in using what little I know to help things along, in P and NP, is growing tremendously every day. I have a mission! I can do it! I am able! I have tools! Vee
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Reply #9 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 11:33pm
 
you do deserve the help of the guides and angels Vee...they tell me that's their only occupation, is to be called upon..but it's funny, like you say we humans get afraid that there must be something wrong if we can get like a miracle to take place. ACIM (A course in miracles) says if miracles arent happening then something has gone wrong.

that had me thinking a bit. there's 50 principles of the miracle minded and today I was thinking if I could get up a ramble on each of the 50 principles or not, over on my blog, with assistance of course.  you just reminded me of my plan!

don't be afraid. if you don't ask, u get nothing. if you ask, theres a chance to get it.
over to me blog now, la de da la la la.... Cheesy...
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