My brother died in March of 2005. He died of alcoholism alone in his cabin. After he died, I contacted him by going to the "tunnel" I see when I shut my eyes and go quiet. I went to the edge and shouted his name (silently) several times. In the far distance I saw something moving, very tiny and far off, coming toward me. I waited and it came close enough to see it was my brother, lying down flat, hands by his sides, he was grey and he had his eyes shut. He was an atheist in his life as far as I know. I thought he probably had expected to just die and cease to exist, so when he left his body that is the pose he adopted, just shut himself down and lay still and grey. I called his name again and he saw me standing there. I took his arm and said, "Stand up, let's go, I will take you to Dad. He's in a place called The Park. Come on. I'll take you. It's easy." He stood up, accepting this strange intrusion into his death experience, and willingly let me guide him. He did not speak. He seemed to feel a bit confused but he stayed with me as we entered the Park, where I always picture it in place with grass and many rose gardens near where I always enter. We passed many benches etc and came to what I call the Picnic Place, by the ocean, lots of benches and usually many people there enjoying the oceanside ambience and eating and drinking coffee etc. I dunno...I just picture it that way. Always seem to be people around there anyway. I was astonished, nobody there to greet us. I was alarmed, thought, ok, I really have been imagining all this and now I have Wayne here and I can't find anyone for him. Help!! So I stood there and hollered for Dad and yelled and yelled for him, and was starting to really panic. Then I got the feeling the whole picnic area was some kind of stage set. Over at the end there were even the "wings" of the set. From around the back "wings" my Dad came. He did not look cheerful about this event. He looked like he had been dreading it. Anyway he came over to us and I said, well, here's Wayne, and neither of them knew what to say. So I said, uh, feeling kind of awkward, this had never happened before, I said Let's go to Dad's place, ok Dad? So we shot off to his lovely cabin where he lives with his nice two dogs and his fireplace and his nice set up in some green rolling mountains. I walked in with Wayne behind Dad. We stood by the fireplace for a minute and the two dogs were lying down in front of the fire. They didn't seem bothered by us coming in. Then my brother looked at my Dad and seemed to suddenly really come to life. He said "So, we can build things here?" He caught on to the new reality fast. Dad said, "Yeah. We can build things." I said I had to go and excused myself and shot off back to my home in beautiful B.C. I take some pride and happiness in knowing I rescued my poor brother who really had a sad life and surprised him no end with some really, really great news...his real life was just beginning! I have caught sight of him a couple times since then while exploring there, and he has been hanging out with a wide range of wildlife and enjoying the woods and forests there, he was a real outdoors guy when he was sober. He is loving the animals and helping them as they arrive there, trying to offer what healing he can.  I don't know if Dad or anyone has introduced him to any healers or guides yet...anyway. That's my story of retrieving my bro. So cool. One of my happy things for sure. Use Bruce's method outlined in the appendix of one of his books. Thanks for reading. V.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Vanayssa!

The Helpers certainly must have known you could do it on your own    since none of them showed up for awhile (unless your dad was one.)  Congratulations !
Have you done any retrievals before helping your brother?  Do you expect to do any in the future?


Betson

First thing I need to ask is, how do you guys all get your pictures up there? I can't see how to do it. There is supposed to be Attach here somewhere but I can't see it. I am blind this morning I guess. Anyway...thanks to everyone for responding to my post on my brother's retrieval.  To answer your questions, I live in Courtenay, B.C. on the east coast of Vancouver Island.  It's damp and drizzly today, we have had a bit of winter weather but not too bad compared to a lot of places these days. I have pretty much just done my family members, I don't have a lot of confidence that I know what I am doing. I attended Gateway at TMI in 2000 and have been doing some since then. I have read Bob Monroe's books and Bruce Moen's books (which are so incredibly healing and wonderful, everyone I lend them to is helped by them, given new hope and optimism and happiness in living) and I used to go into the TMI website and read the Voyagers stories, which are retrieval stories of TMI grads, most of whom I guess have done Lifeline. I would like to do Lifeline, it's a bit expensive to get there and the course fees and so on. Easier if you are on the east coast of course. My first intro to all this came when my daughter and her husband died in 1988, on the anniversary of their death they appeared in my apartment and spoke to me, much to my astonishment since I was a total atheist at the time. That started me on a search which led to finding Bob Monroe's books in the library and I went on from there. I did the Gateway course before I went to TMI, using the taped course they offer, which is a big, big undertaking of many, many tapes and is FAR superior to the course offered on campus..in my opinion anyway. I wish they offered Lifeline on tapes!!! I also have got Bruce Moen's home study course and am just getting going on it. Have had it for a while but never got round to it, enjoying it now and eager to see what it brings into my life!! I'd like to do catastrophes but don't know how. I have never seen a Guide, would love to see one...or more!! I had a Shamanic healing after my daughter died, the shock of her death sent me spinning into outer space where i hung in the dark, alone and detached from everything, belonging no where and to no one. It was unbearable, I couldn't have lived very long after that if a Shaman had not noticed me in a class I was taking one day and gave me his card. He was a chief of a Band near where I lived. It was $600 for a 14 hour ritual, I dug up the money knowing i would die if I couldn't get help. It was incredible...never was anyone healed of so much so fast..it took 14 hours and I awoke with a splitting headache the following morning, and was briefly able to see right through walls, but that passed quickly and I was back to normal. The ritual connected me to all the world, fire, earth, moon, wildlife, water, sun, everything...I returned to my apartment whole. It was an amazing thing and I am grateful to this day. A long time ago...1989. So her death brought me into a new world, a better world, full of immortality, excitement, curiosity..(above all, curiosity) and a search for a kind of wholeness I can only imagine. So unexpected a gift in life!! Well, now I am really rambling so I will stop. Please email me and give me guidance and examples of how you do real retrievals with all kinds of people...much appreciated if you do. thanks. Vanayssa[email][/email]

Wow Vanayssa!  I’m amazed at the detail in your retrieval of your brother.  Smiled at the Park turning into a stage set with wings when there weren’t any people around.  Maybe the helpers were stage hands whom we never see when we watch a play. 

Meeting a Shaman when you needed it so badly is wonderful and reassuring.  You connecting “to all the world, fire, earth, moon, wildlife, water, sun, everything” is great.

Welcome! - Rob

Hi Vanayssa;
You mentioned Bro a few times, are you "Kwakiutl"?
Meeting a Shaman was quite interesting especially 14 hrs, was it in a sweat lodge? Is there one in Courtney?..sorry for all these questions,i'm BC also and haven't meet too many from these part of the world on Bruce site. Next time i drive through Courtney, i may stop by and have a coffee with you if you up to it..
Heiltsuk Territory here, BellaBella (Waglisla)
With love, Romain
PM if you need more info, and keep up the good work i will get easier with time..

Hi Vanayssa - I've only been a member for a couple months.  It is a great place with many fascinating, wonderful and loving members.  I'm glad you're here.

Hi Rick. Thank you for your lovely message and I AM SO GLAD YOU COULD SEE THE PICNIC AREA!! I thought I had just invented it and I never really felt at all sure it was really there. I am also glad you too could see all the people there...I have been bothered by the possibility that those who are there are kind of isolated and alone, like landing in a gorgeous park in the middle of outer space where no one ever comes, you know? So now I know there really are lots of people there and  I have to just accept that I do not know everything about how all this comes to be and be comfortable with that. Whatever it all is...it works! I appreciate your corroboration of these things. Vanayssa

Hi Bet. Thanks for that input! I was just thinking, as I came to boot up the computer, about sleep, wondering if really we are in spirit somewhere, maybe The Park, in sleep, and we only cope with this confusing world for a few hours out of every 24. If that's the case, it seems a fairly manageable commitment! I am wondering  about how the fast-developing climate change issues fit in with the sudden raising of consciousness in many parts of the world. The movie The Secret, and Bob Scheinfeld's book Busting Loose From the Money Game, seek to take us to a place in our inner space where we create by thought, as they do in The Park. Was it hard for my Dad to learn to put up that lovely cottage he lives in there, or is learning to build with thought waves quite easy? If it is, wish I could get a handle on it! And Feelings of course, are important too. I am deeply engrossed right now with Bruce's Home Study Course which I have seen mentioned elsewhere in the postings, and the part where he is pretending to try to learn to tightrope-walk. And talking to the Parts of himself! I am looking forward to getting further into the book and to the actual explorations of the AL. Sooner or later I will learn to create with thought and feeling successfully...and can create a home without a mortgage broker...now there's a good practical reason to pursue AL studies. Anyway...onward to breakfast and dog-walking. Thanks again, Bet. Vanayssa

Ice Cream! Of course. I am always so strung out with anxiety when I enter The Park or the Picinic area, that I never think of enjoying myself. Next time...I will pause and taste the ice cream/peanut butter sandwiches. That will be a new goal! Try to relax! Thanks for sharing those things, Spooky. Vanayssa

Thank you for your notes,  Mairlyn. It is so difficult to manage one's various human needs and yearnings when the family of origin is busy tearing itself to pieces and no one can do anything right and everyone is trying to correct everyone else, including even the most unhealthy members (who seem above all to believe their negative view of things is the correct one, strangely enough).
One of my family members actually lives in the town I am moving to, and I have not even told them I am moving there...the burden of family problems is too great, and I don't handle it in a helpful way anyhow. And this is very typical, I gather, of dysfunctional families, this not talking, not sharing, thing. We all give up on each other after a few years.
But being able to send healing to them in the non physical has been a tremendous boon to me, as i don't have to get involved in arguing and self-protection etc, just gather myself together, call on the healers, and give an hour or two over to these very beloved people who can't trust or get along with me or each other.
When they pass over, I get to help them find The Park and get them started in their new life, and wow, what a gift it is to have this wonderfully secret ability to help them when they most need it, even though I can't find my way to a relationship with them in this life.
A buddhist writer, very popular these days, I forget his name, a monk, some of you will have read him, advised in one book I bought to love them to pieces and phone them and say, my darling, darling sister, I love you so much, I cannot bear to have these troubles between us, and so on, and I actually tried that (which was NOT easy to do!!) and it did not work at all...I dunno the answer but I sure am glad I can go looking for them when they leave the physical and all their troubles and say, here I am, I love you so much, let me take you to Dad or Mom or whoever and everything will be fine.
As my compassion grows (hopefully it will) I possibly can do better with at least some of my siblings (those who are left, not many at this point).
Nice to think we are not too far from each other. No doubt it will be possible for us to meet in the not too distant future! Romain is quite a ways up the coast from me, but maybe we should have, you know, hey, a Moen Board NW Coast conference or something. Vee

Hi Stacy. Thanks for the post! One thing I have found when doing readings for people or doing retrievals or whatever, it doesn't take much to get someone moving in the right direction..it just takes the tiniest intimation of the right thing. So when you were practicing a retrieval and thought you messed it up, it might have been more perfect, but it sounds like you stirred the person and woke them up...that's the main thing. The reason we stay stuck is we don't wake up...when someone attends TMI and does Gateway, one of the things they listen to is a tape on which is a retrieval of a man named Patrick, a sailor hundreds of years ago, who was drowned in a shipwreck and spent about three hundred years floating in the sea, as he thought, clutching a piece of driftwood, which all was very real to him, no sense of passage of time though. But he was so distraught, it was so pitiful, some students get really angry because they feel so traumatized, having to listen to that tape. But the guy didn't know he was dead, that was the problem, and no sense of time, so the main thing he needed was to realize it was an illusion. No ocean, no driftwood, all in the past, he was now in the non physical. So just waking someone up, is a terrific gift. The tape is available from the store at TMI too. Vee

Hi again Vee,
building houses, cultivating forests, forming landscapes seems to be a favorite for many people over there (maybe even growing marijuana lol). I once felt I should create a place through my imagination for a person who is still living, as then, when this person passes over, a nice place is already there. It was a wooden hut in a wild meadow with woods around.  Horses I've seen often lately when I was attempting to meet a deceased person I know.

Spooky

hey there Vee, yes I knew a lady, well, I was asked to retrieve her. a young woman I found walking in the city..of all things, she was merrily shopping! for some, maybe we  cannot get enough of shopping. it is fun. she was a person who went to the gym a lot to keep her body in shape. so naturally I was picking up that she liked to dress up and do that shopping thing. her boyfriend did not believe me, although he asked me to retrieve her, but I know it was genuine, because I did not know that she went to the gym a lot, I just asked him later, did she work out? and it was true. I was getting that she needed to sort of get the shopping out of her system, and that she would be ok there for the moment. her boyfriend was missing her badly, but she was not concerned with the relationship for the moment. so we have a city scene there for her, but I was not getting that she had created the city, but that it had been created before she died.

on the other hand my husband produced somehow a house, with a split level floor when he passed on. I knew he liked this step up floor plan but didn't know he liked it that well, to implement one for himself, but my attention was directly drawn to the floor when I was out there looking.

the more I think about it, this visit with him must have been a retrieval because of the appearance of two male guides who were talking in earnest to him about involving him in some project, something to do with opening him up, a play they were putting on. I had gotten his attention, I do believe for the guides to come in.

my sister showed me a new house. (deceased) a ranch style, very conventional style, and my sister is a conventional gal. so now, I always see a cabin in the woods and little streams, I may use it for a vacation someday! love, alysia

Hi Vee, great story of your bros retrieval. I am also on the Island. Bamfield. You know Paul Alder, one of TMI's trainers is here on the Island also. In Port Alberni. He does work shops out of his house and around the Island.
Joe

Hi Alysia, thanks for that note about Matthew, I will go and look at that site. Vee

It sounds like your brother has created a great place to be while he considers his next move. Working with the animals most likely is very satisfying also. I guess being out of a body must make it different to do the pot thing. Can't hurt himself by smoking. No lungs to hurt or stuff like that. No fingers to burn with the roach. Perhaps he eats it? I find it interesting that he would even want to do it. If you get the chance, ask him what the purpose of the pot is there. Like you said, it might br just to annoy you.
Joe

hi Vee, have a suggestion: the next time you see your brother suggest to him whatever he "feels" when imbibing the pot, that he can bring that feeling into himself without the actual substance. with practice he will maintain the experience of being high at all times with his mind control.

the more I think on this retrieval I'm reminded when I visited with my deceased exhusband awhile back. it was a sleep retrieval I am thinking now.

Mike was an alchoholic. I learned later his pancreas was totally dead organ while he still yet walked around in his body. didn't know that could happen. gives new meaning to the phrase "walking dead man." 
so in the retrieval I was just appearing in his living room as my intention was to be checking out his welfare on the other side, his spiritual progress.
no one was in the room at first so I waited and he walked in looked at me, sat down some small object. now I think it was a glass. he liked bourban in a glass. but I blocked it out what he sat down, as I wanted to believe, that he was over the addiction. now I think I just didn't want to see that glass.

so anyhoo, part of my intention I remember now, for going to see him was to inquire about the addiction, so I must have had this thought in my mind and he sat the glass down due to 1) out of respect for me or: 2) he really had sat liquor down, to be done with it.

the reason I'm thinking I did  a retrieval rather than a visit, is two guides showed up in his kitchen and began talking to him about his future. I got the feeling the guides had been to see him more than once, that they were working on him friendly like. he was slow to warm up to new ideas. maybe stubborn is the word.

so if they were there before me, then maybe it wasn't a bonafide retrieval, I just know retrievals always have guides handy somewhere in the picture. well, in the beginning phases the guides are there. its not always they reveal themselves though.
I'd like to think I had something to do with the help he was getting, to advance along, he was such a non social type guy, and the guides were trying to get him out of himself into social and team work type environments, so it was all good.

love, alysia