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Re: My brother's retrieval
Reply #15 - Jan 27th, 2007 at 3:12pm
 
Hi people,
half a year ago I tried to participate in the TMI's "Exploration 27" at my home, in my mind. One time, on my way to F27, I came over a great ocean. I landed at a coast, and there was a sort of outside-cafe, like a beach cafe; I was with a group, and we were sitting at little tables, 3 or 4 people at each table, I had a big cup of icecream. There were even waiters. It was so much icecream I was sorry that I couldn't eat it all up, cause I had to go on with the others, and when we left the waiter hadn't much to do with cleaning up the tables, the dishes just vanished. This coast-beach cafe area was I felt very extensive, in a long line along the way down the coast of that ocean. The ocean was not a normal one, it changed when I observed it. One time it was an ocean, dark and rough, the other time plain, then only fog, or a formless grey. It represented a kind of border, a grey zone, of F27; from over the ocean the deceased would come and enter F27. Like in old sayings the border of death was marked by a river or an ocean. I felt the reception area was just a few steps away, The Park, and there is a sort of gate, and buildings there.

Except The Park, I haven't read or heard from others what I've seen there.

So, maybe we've been at the same place.

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Reply #16 - Jan 27th, 2007 at 3:20pm
 
Ice Cream! Of course. I am always so strung out with anxiety when I enter The Park or the Picinic area, that I never think of enjoying myself. Next time...I will pause and taste the ice cream/peanut butter sandwiches. That will be a new goal! Try to relax! Thanks for sharing those things, Spooky. Vanayssa
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Re: My brother's retrieval
Reply #17 - Feb 24th, 2007 at 2:33pm
 
Hi Vanayssa, happy to meet you. I've been away from this forum for awhile but thought I'd stop in and see what all I've missed. The retrieval of your brother was great.  I also took Gateway Voyage in 2000 in September and then went on to take 3 more programs and have done many retrievals as that is part of my life path. BTW, I live in the far NE corner of WA state so I'm not that terribly far from you, probably 500 miles. (and dear Romain Wink )  I think that you will find that everytime you do a retrieval, you are also retrieving/healing a part of yourself.

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Reply #18 - Feb 24th, 2007 at 5:09pm
 
Thank you for your notes,  Mairlyn. It is so difficult to manage one's various human needs and yearnings when the family of origin is busy tearing itself to pieces and no one can do anything right and everyone is trying to correct everyone else, including even the most unhealthy members (who seem above all to believe their negative view of things is the correct one, strangely enough).
One of my family members actually lives in the town I am moving to, and I have not even told them I am moving there...the burden of family problems is too great, and I don't handle it in a helpful way anyhow. And this is very typical, I gather, of dysfunctional families, this not talking, not sharing, thing. We all give up on each other after a few years.
But being able to send healing to them in the non physical has been a tremendous boon to me, as i don't have to get involved in arguing and self-protection etc, just gather myself together, call on the healers, and give an hour or two over to these very beloved people who can't trust or get along with me or each other.
When they pass over, I get to help them find The Park and get them started in their new life, and wow, what a gift it is to have this wonderfully secret ability to help them when they most need it, even though I can't find my way to a relationship with them in this life.
A buddhist writer, very popular these days, I forget his name, a monk, some of you will have read him, advised in one book I bought to love them to pieces and phone them and say, my darling, darling sister, I love you so much, I cannot bear to have these troubles between us, and so on, and I actually tried that (which was NOT easy to do!!) and it did not work at all...I dunno the answer but I sure am glad I can go looking for them when they leave the physical and all their troubles and say, here I am, I love you so much, let me take you to Dad or Mom or whoever and everything will be fine.
As my compassion grows (hopefully it will) I possibly can do better with at least some of my siblings (those who are left, not many at this point).
Nice to think we are not too far from each other. No doubt it will be possible for us to meet in the not too distant future! Romain is quite a ways up the coast from me, but maybe we should have, you know, hey, a Moen Board NW Coast conference or something. Vee
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Reply #19 - Feb 24th, 2007 at 8:17pm
 
Vee,

That was very touching and well presented. You are quite an accomplished retriever. Did you say that you are working with Bruce's guidebook and cds? I just ordered them and I can't wait to see what happens next. When I start doing retrievals can I pick your brain?

I was sent on a retrieval some time back when I did not know what it was. I got so confused
by this empty shell of a person that I ran away...ooops. lol I do think it was a partial retrieval because my presence there did stir him from his stillness and I saw another aspect of himself coming toward me from another direction. Very confussing stuff. I was given another chance and was successful. And now it is a gift that keeps giving back to me, how great is that!

Good Job Vee!
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Reply #20 - Feb 24th, 2007 at 10:16pm
 
Hi Stacy. Thanks for the post! One thing I have found when doing readings for people or doing retrievals or whatever, it doesn't take much to get someone moving in the right direction..it just takes the tiniest intimation of the right thing. So when you were practicing a retrieval and thought you messed it up, it might have been more perfect, but it sounds like you stirred the person and woke them up...that's the main thing. The reason we stay stuck is we don't wake up...when someone attends TMI and does Gateway, one of the things they listen to is a tape on which is a retrieval of a man named Patrick, a sailor hundreds of years ago, who was drowned in a shipwreck and spent about three hundred years floating in the sea, as he thought, clutching a piece of driftwood, which all was very real to him, no sense of passage of time though. But he was so distraught, it was so pitiful, some students get really angry because they feel so traumatized, having to listen to that tape. But the guy didn't know he was dead, that was the problem, and no sense of time, so the main thing he needed was to realize it was an illusion. No ocean, no driftwood, all in the past, he was now in the non physical. So just waking someone up, is a terrific gift. The tape is available from the store at TMI too. Vee
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Reply #21 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 9:19pm
 
Originally, I posted the story of my brother's retrieval on January 20, and I wanted to add today, July 30, that I have visited my brother a few times since then in The Park. I am not accomplished at conversing with people there much, and hope to improve in that area. A week or so ago, he "tapped me on the shoulder" so to speak while I was doing other stuff, I had not been to see him for quite a while, and so I took a few minutes to go drop in on him and see what he wanted. First, he wanted to show me that he had built a home for himself, that is, a house type of home. When he first went to the park he built himself a forest, which is what he likes best, but now he has completed work on a cedar shake house, only he has left out one of the walls, overlooking the valley below his forest, so he can be in his house or he can move out onto his cedar deck by just walking out where the wall should be, you know? It's kind of neat, only you could only do that in a part of the universe where you could control the weather!! He was sitting out on his deck looking proud when I arrived and he mostly wanted to show me a couple other things, one is, he has of course been looking after traumatized animals since his "demise", lots of wild and small animals, but now he has been given responsibility for a large herd of horses who have passed in difficulty. I could see them in the valley below his forest, and he had been sitting on his deck watching over them. They were very aware of us, kind of connnected to him by some kind of invisible energy field, constantly aware of his caring presence there, one horse in particular drew my attention, must be the leader I guess, and this horse is sort of roughly a creamy color and has a black streak down his handsome nose, a very proud and pretty large horse. The other thing he wanted to show me was, he is now growing marijuana and enjoying it. I guess alcohol does not work very well in The Park so he has been looking for an alternative, I guess to satisfy his cravings, I don't know since I don't converse well with them there yet, but he was happy and pleased and also kind of wanted to shock and maybe annoy me a little. Still a brother, ya know? Vee
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Reply #22 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 10:13pm
 
Hi again Vee,
building houses, cultivating forests, forming landscapes seems to be a favorite for many people over there (maybe even growing marijuana lol). I once felt I should create a place through my imagination for a person who is still living, as then, when this person passes over, a nice place is already there. It was a wooden hut in a wild meadow with woods around.  Horses I've seen often lately when I was attempting to meet a deceased person I know.

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Reply #23 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 11:18pm
 
Hi Spooky. Thanks for that comment. I wonder if anyone has gone to one of the places like The Park (and no doubt others) and gone to work creating a City?? And if so, how big? What would be the reason for a City's existence? Cities historically came into being with the industrial revolution I think, and exploded in population because the factories offered jobs and wages to people used to living with very little, I'm not clear on that history any more. I guess there would not be any reason for someone going to the Park to create a City of any real size. We always seem to want to create, like you said, woodland, wild flowers, stuff like that. Nice little cabins. Like my brother has done, and my dad. I was talking to someone recently and we remarked how it is difficult to feel lonely when you are in the forest...there is something about true nature that makes humans feel like they are not alone. Unless, I guess, a grizzly bear is chasing you. But no one in The Park creates grizzly bears. I don't think. Maybe no one has retrieved any. Maybe I should go out and try and find one to retrieve...the mind boggles. By the time we get out of this dense physical existence, we seem to want peace and quiet and beautiful things around us. But there must be some people who pass over and still want the Action of City Life. Vee
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Reply #24 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 12:18am
 
hey there Vee, yes I knew a lady, well, I was asked to retrieve her. a young woman I found walking in the city..of all things, she was merrily shopping! for some, maybe we  cannot get enough of shopping. it is fun. she was a person who went to the gym a lot to keep her body in shape. so naturally I was picking up that she liked to dress up and do that shopping thing. her boyfriend did not believe me, although he asked me to retrieve her, but I know it was genuine, because I did not know that she went to the gym a lot, I just asked him later, did she work out? and it was true. I was getting that she needed to sort of get the shopping out of her system, and that she would be ok there for the moment. her boyfriend was missing her badly, but she was not concerned with the relationship for the moment. so we have a city scene there for her, but I was not getting that she had created the city, but that it had been created before she died.

on the other hand my husband produced somehow a house, with a split level floor when he passed on. I knew he liked this step up floor plan but didn't know he liked it that well, to implement one for himself, but my attention was directly drawn to the floor when I was out there looking.

the more I think about it, this visit with him must have been a retrieval because of the appearance of two male guides who were talking in earnest to him about involving him in some project, something to do with opening him up, a play they were putting on. I had gotten his attention, I do believe for the guides to come in.

my sister showed me a new house. (deceased) a ranch style, very conventional style, and my sister is a conventional gal. so now, I always see a cabin in the woods and little streams, I may use it for a vacation someday! love, alysia
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Reply #25 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 2:13pm
 
OK, I never thought of that before!! A shot of pure horror and dismay shot through my system when I read your post, Alysia. I had never before realized, of course, let's cut through all the lingo here, WHEN I DIE I WON'T BE ABLE TO SHOP ANY MORE!!! AAAHHHHH!! That never occurred to me before. I better start going over there and begin building a Mall. Maybe two or three. Will I need permission from somebody? I wonder. Where will I get the goods from? How will I stock everything? If I already know what's there, it won't be any fun shopping. OK, enough of the little cabins. I need a Lamborghini and a Montana's steak house. I've gotta get on this. Bob Monroe never talked about any of this important stuff in his books, nor Bruce either. What an oversight. OK, if I can't have a Mall, maybe I can be content with landscaping and a big garden. I could put in a Butchart's Gardens sort of thng. That would keep me busy. Worry worry. Anyway. The old saying "So much to do, so little Time," won't apply, so I can keep at it as long as I want. If I can learn to converse with my brother and dad over there, maybe I can learn more about this stuff. I know some things are ordinary, like they eat if they feel like it, though I guess that energy body probably doesn't really need food as fuel. I found my brother and dad having a barbecue in my dad's back yard one day. They must have meat without having to slaughter animals. So they just invent the steaks somehow.  So if they can do that, then we really could have a Montana's. Anyway. Maybe the heat is getting to me. Vee
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Reply #26 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 2:43pm
 
Hi Vee, great story of your bros retrieval. I am also on the Island. Bamfield. You know Paul Alder, one of TMI's trainers is here on the Island also. In Port Alberni. He does work shops out of his house and around the Island.
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Reply #27 - Jul 31st, 2007 at 3:39pm
 
forum members on an island? how cool is that?

Vee my post just committed suicide. was laughing at your post so hard about the shopping.
well, a girl's gotta do what a girls gotta do I guess!

anybody interested you can google Mathew letters. the story behind this a teenage son bailed out intentionally in order to come back as a channeller to his mother, who jots down everything he says about the afterlife.
among other things, those newly passed on are taught to think themselves to a location, or person, or a car is produced if they're not ready for learning flight.

I'm pretty sure he designed his life to be short so he and his mom could bring knowledge of the afterlife to the general public. they are a good team.

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Hi Alysia, thanks for that note about Matthew, I will go and look at that site. Vee
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Reply #29 - Sep 14th, 2007 at 3:50pm
 
Originally, I posted the story of my brother's retrieval on January 20, and I wanted to add today, July 30, that I have visited my brother a few times since then in The Park. I am not accomplished at conversing with people there much, and hope to improve in that area. A week or so ago, he "tapped me on the shoulder" so to speak while I was doing other stuff, I had not been to see him for quite a while, and so I took a few minutes to go drop in on him and see what he wanted. First, he wanted to show me that he had built a home for himself, that is, a house type of home. When he first went to the park he built himself a forest, which is what he likes best, but now he has completed work on a cedar shake house, only he has left out one of the walls, overlooking the valley below his forest, so he can be in his house or he can move out onto his cedar deck by just walking out where the wall should be, you know? It's kind of neat, only you could only do that in a part of the universe where you could control the weather!! He was sitting out on his deck looking proud when I arrived and he mostly wanted to show me a couple other things, one is, he has of course been looking after traumatized animals since his "demise", lots of wild and small animals, but now he has been given responsibility for a large herd of horses who have passed in difficulty. I could see them in the valley below his forest, and he had been sitting on his deck watching over them. They were very aware of us, kind of connnected to him by some kind of invisible energy field, constantly aware of his caring presence there, one horse in particular drew my attention, must be the leader I guess, and this horse is sort of roughly a creamy color and has a black streak down his handsome nose, a very proud and pretty large horse. The other thing he wanted to show me was, he is now growing marijuana and enjoying it. I guess alcohol does not work very well in The Park so he has been looking for an alternative, I guess to satisfy his cravings, I don't know since I don't converse well with them there yet, but he was happy and pleased and also kind of wanted to shock and maybe annoy me a little. Still a brother, ya know? Vee
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