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My brother died in March of 2005. He died of alcoholism alone in his cabin. After he died, I contacted him by going to the "tunnel" I see when I shut my eyes and go quiet. I went to the edge and shouted his name (silently) several times. In the far distance I saw something moving, very tiny and far off, coming toward me. I waited and it came close enough to see it was my brother, lying down flat, hands by his sides, he was grey and he had his eyes shut. He was an atheist in his life as far as I know. I thought he probably had expected to just die and cease to exist, so when he left his body that is the pose he adopted, just shut himself down and lay still and grey. I called his name again and he saw me standing there. I took his arm and said, "Stand up, let's go, I will take you to Dad. He's in a place called The Park. Come on. I'll take you. It's easy." He stood up, accepting this strange intrusion into his death experience, and willingly let me guide him. He did not speak. He seemed to feel a bit confused but he stayed with me as we entered the Park, where I always picture it in place with grass and many rose gardens near where I always enter. We passed many benches etc and came to what I call the Picnic Place, by the ocean, lots of benches and usually many people there enjoying the oceanside ambience and eating and drinking coffee etc. I dunno...I just picture it that way. Always seem to be people around there anyway. I was astonished, nobody there to greet us. I was alarmed, thought, ok, I really have been imagining all this and now I have Wayne here and I can't find anyone for him. Help!! So I stood there and hollered for Dad and yelled and yelled for him, and was starting to really panic. Then I got the feeling the whole picnic area was some kind of stage set. Over at the end there were even the "wings" of the set. From around the back "wings" my Dad came. He did not look cheerful about this event. He looked like he had been dreading it. Anyway he came over to us and I said, well, here's Wayne, and neither of them knew what to say. So I said, uh, feeling kind of awkward, this had never happened before, I said Let's go to Dad's place, ok Dad? So we shot off to his lovely cabin where he lives with his nice two dogs and his fireplace and his nice set up in some green rolling mountains. I walked in with Wayne behind Dad. We stood by the fireplace for a minute and the two dogs were lying down in front of the fire. They didn't seem bothered by us coming in. Then my brother looked at my Dad and seemed to suddenly really come to life. He said "So, we can build things here?" He caught on to the new reality fast. Dad said, "Yeah. We can build things." I said I had to go and excused myself and shot off back to my home in beautiful B.C. I take some pride and happiness in knowing I rescued my poor brother who really had a sad life and surprised him no end with some really, really great news...his real life was just beginning! I have caught sight of him a couple times since then while exploring there, and he has been hanging out with a wide range of wildlife and enjoying the woods and forests there, he was a real outdoors guy when he was sober. He is loving the animals and helping them as they arrive there, trying to offer what healing he can.  I don't know if Dad or anyone has introduced him to any healers or guides yet...anyway. That's my story of retrieving my bro. So cool. One of my happy things for sure. Use Bruce's method outlined in the appendix of one of his books. Thanks for reading. V.
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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2007 at 11:39pm
 
Hi Vanayssa, I like that one! thats cool he's involved with the animal kingdom, just like my sister is.
It's great to see family helping family. I retrieved my mother also, will tell the story someday. I think you did good. I have to try the shout technique someday! Cheesy

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Reply #2 - Jan 21st, 2007 at 11:44am
 
Thanks for sharing your experience, Vanayssa!

The Helpers certainly must have known you could do it on your own   Smiley  since none of them showed up for awhile (unless your dad was one.)  Congratulations !
Have you done any retrievals before helping your brother?  Do you expect to do any in the future?


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Reply #3 - Jan 21st, 2007 at 2:29pm
 
Thanks for sharing your experience, Vanayssa!
And welcome to the board.
Where in BC are you?
Was it your first retreival?

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Reply #4 - Jan 21st, 2007 at 5:01pm
 
First thing I need to ask is, how do you guys all get your pictures up there? I can't see how to do it. There is supposed to be Attach here somewhere but I can't see it. I am blind this morning I guess. Anyway...thanks to everyone for responding to my post on my brother's retrieval.  To answer your questions, I live in Courtenay, B.C. on the east coast of Vancouver Island.  It's damp and drizzly today, we have had a bit of winter weather but not too bad compared to a lot of places these days. I have pretty much just done my family members, I don't have a lot of confidence that I know what I am doing. I attended Gateway at TMI in 2000 and have been doing some since then. I have read Bob Monroe's books and Bruce Moen's books (which are so incredibly healing and wonderful, everyone I lend them to is helped by them, given new hope and optimism and happiness in living) and I used to go into the TMI website and read the Voyagers stories, which are retrieval stories of TMI grads, most of whom I guess have done Lifeline. I would like to do Lifeline, it's a bit expensive to get there and the course fees and so on. Easier if you are on the east coast of course. My first intro to all this came when my daughter and her husband died in 1988, on the anniversary of their death they appeared in my apartment and spoke to me, much to my astonishment since I was a total atheist at the time. That started me on a search which led to finding Bob Monroe's books in the library and I went on from there. I did the Gateway course before I went to TMI, using the taped course they offer, which is a big, big undertaking of many, many tapes and is FAR superior to the course offered on campus..in my opinion anyway. I wish they offered Lifeline on tapes!!! I also have got Bruce Moen's home study course and am just getting going on it. Have had it for a while but never got round to it, enjoying it now and eager to see what it brings into my life!! I'd like to do catastrophes but don't know how. I have never seen a Guide, would love to see one...or more!! I had a Shamanic healing after my daughter died, the shock of her death sent me spinning into outer space where i hung in the dark, alone and detached from everything, belonging no where and to no one. It was unbearable, I couldn't have lived very long after that if a Shaman had not noticed me in a class I was taking one day and gave me his card. He was a chief of a Band near where I lived. It was $600 for a 14 hour ritual, I dug up the money knowing i would die if I couldn't get help. It was incredible...never was anyone healed of so much so fast..it took 14 hours and I awoke with a splitting headache the following morning, and was briefly able to see right through walls, but that passed quickly and I was back to normal. The ritual connected me to all the world, fire, earth, moon, wildlife, water, sun, everything...I returned to my apartment whole. It was an amazing thing and I am grateful to this day. A long time ago...1989. So her death brought me into a new world, a better world, full of immortality, excitement, curiosity..(above all, curiosity) and a search for a kind of wholeness I can only imagine. So unexpected a gift in life!! Well, now I am really rambling so I will stop. Please email me and give me guidance and examples of how you do real retrievals with all kinds of people...much appreciated if you do. thanks. Vanayssa[email][/email]
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Reply #5 - Jan 21st, 2007 at 8:48pm
 
Hi Vanyssa  for your picture go into your profile to edit, towards the end of the profile fill in places theres a place to pick like an avatar, then skip that part and under that it should say "I have my own picture/image."  check the box. I don't think we can directly link to our computers for the load up, so u might have to place your photo on a photo album on the internet somewhere..theres tons of places to do this free; this gives you an http url to link your photo to and put on the line next to where you checked "I have my own photo."

hope that works, if not go to the tech question thread and ask Allen, he's always lurking, hee hee. hi Allen.

I must say I much appreciate what you've shared here so extensively. I'm really taken aback and my heart goes out to you what you must have gone through with your daughter leaving before you. I don't think I would be able to bear up as well.
so often family members do come back to stay in touch and they actually help us to remain among the living because they do come back and show us they care as well turn the atheists suddenly into believers.
and seeing thru walls!  oh my, like xray vision! see, I was right. objects are somewhat illusionary things in this regard. It looks like you died and did a rather quick merge into universal oneness plane. I'm convinced we can "die" here without the body actually dying. I will post a few of my retrievals over the next few days as I can see you will working in this area for awhile and its one of my favorite subjects too!

talk on a new topic thread to you on the retrieval forum and please let us know if u have trouble with the picture.
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Reply #6 - Jan 22nd, 2007 at 12:40pm
 
Wow Vanayssa!  I’m amazed at the detail in your retrieval of your brother.  Smiled at the Park turning into a stage set with wings when there weren’t any people around.  Maybe the helpers were stage hands whom we never see when we watch a play. 

Meeting a Shaman when you needed it so badly is wonderful and reassuring.  You connecting “to all the world, fire, earth, moon, wildlife, water, sun, everything” is great.

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Reply #7 - Jan 22nd, 2007 at 2:30pm
 
Thanks, Rob. Life is certainly surprising, never know what is coming around the corner and it is so good when we find ways to cope. Always through other people, it seems. Sensitive people who notice those around them sure do make a difference. I see you have made 69 posts, you must have been a member here for quite a while. This is a fun place to be...and there is a lot I can learn from everyone here. Looking forward to finding your posts and reading them. Vanayssa
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Reply #8 - Jan 22nd, 2007 at 7:19pm
 
Hi Vanayssa;
You mentioned Bro a few times, are you "Kwakiutl"?
Meeting a Shaman was quite interesting especially 14 hrs, was it in a sweat lodge? Is there one in Courtney?..sorry for all these questions,i'm BC also and haven't meet too many from these part of the world on Bruce site. Next time i drive through Courtney, i may stop by and have a coffee with you if you up to it..
Heiltsuk Territory here, BellaBella (Waglisla)
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PM if you need more info, and keep up the good work i will get easier with time..Smiley
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Reply #9 - Jan 22nd, 2007 at 7:23pm
 
Oops, i read this conversation before going into my PM, and there you were Vanasyssa..lol
already asking questions..good timing i do believe.

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Reply #10 - Jan 24th, 2007 at 12:47pm
 
Hi Vanayssa - I've only been a member for a couple months.  It is a great place with many fascinating, wonderful and loving members.  I'm glad you're here.
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Reply #11 - Jan 24th, 2007 at 2:30pm
 
Hi Vanayssa

It it wonderful that you helped your brother. It always seems that the less informed, and those that hold wrong beliefs about the afterlife are always in need of rescue through the retrival process. It would be beautiful if everyone had this knowledge of the afterlife, as those of us that retrive and have wittnessed it for ourselves. But some just refuse to give up their life long beliefs, for as I state in my book: Beyond the Realm.."We are more than phsyical beings",
("The broadminded go forward, while the narrow-minded stand still")

Also I have also seen great deal of spirits in the park at this area that you mentioned by the oceanside. I have seen what is a large covered patio, or veranda with many tables and chairs and benches, with new arrivals, talking, drinking, and having some sort of food on the tables before them. While standing on the slopes, looking down at this vast area of the park, and the massive reception center, it is surely paradise, and a very beautiful place.

Keep up your explorations and retrivals, they get more exciting and more beautiful and interesting everytime you venture there.

Dimensionally Yours,

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Reply #12 - Jan 24th, 2007 at 3:24pm
 
Hi Rick. Thank you for your lovely message and I AM SO GLAD YOU COULD SEE THE PICNIC AREA!! I thought I had just invented it and I never really felt at all sure it was really there. I am also glad you too could see all the people there...I have been bothered by the possibility that those who are there are kind of isolated and alone, like landing in a gorgeous park in the middle of outer space where no one ever comes, you know? So now I know there really are lots of people there and  I have to just accept that I do not know everything about how all this comes to be and be comfortable with that. Whatever it all is...it works! I appreciate your corroboration of these things. Vanayssa
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Reply #13 - Jan 25th, 2007 at 10:56am
 
You two are tweaking my soul-mind!

I used to work at a nature center with the features Rick describes, but on a much smaller scale, and the ocean in Rick's vision was a river with banks that sloped from the patio. This place was a magnet and continually drew people to it, where they'd walk around slowly with serene looks on their faces !  Smiley
Every time I went to enjoy that view I would be slightly startled by the lack of open expanse of water and the small size of the patio. I even asked some of the old timers when the patio had been scaled back, thinking that maybe erosion had caused them to modify it.

Now I  believe what was imprinted on my mind (and maybe on the minds of the designers of this nature center and its visitors) was The Park and Reception Area in the AL!

Thanks Rick and Vanayssa! for unlocking that beautiful vision!
Bets  Cheesy

Rick's description, from above:
"Also I have also seen great deal of spirits in the park at this area that you mentioned by the oceanside. I have seen what is a large covered patio, or veranda with many tables and chairs and benches, with new arrivals, talking, drinking, and having some sort of food on the tables before them. While standing on the slopes, looking down at this vast area of the park, and the massive reception center, it is surely paradise, and a very beautiful place. "



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Reply #14 - Jan 25th, 2007 at 1:01pm
 
Cheesy Hi Bet. Thanks for that input! I was just thinking, as I came to boot up the computer, about sleep, wondering if really we are in spirit somewhere, maybe The Park, in sleep, and we only cope with this confusing world for a few hours out of every 24. If that's the case, it seems a fairly manageable commitment! I am wondering  Undecidedabout how the fast-developing climate change issues fit in with the sudden raising of consciousness in many parts of the world. The movie The Secret, and Bob Scheinfeld's book Busting Loose From the Money Game, seek to take us to a place in our inner space where we create by thought, as they do in The Park. Was it hard for my Dad to learn to put up that lovely cottage he lives in there, or is learning to build with thought waves quite easy? If it is, wish I could get a handle on it! And Feelings of course, are important too. I am deeply engrossed right now with Bruce's Home Study Course which I have seen mentioned elsewhere in the postings, and the part where he is pretending to try to learn to tightrope-walk. And talking to the Parts of himself! I am looking forward to getting further into the book and to the actual explorations of the AL. Sooner or later I will learn to create with thought and feeling successfully...and can create a home without a mortgage broker...now there's a good practical reason to pursue AL studies. Anyway...onward to breakfast and dog-walking. Thanks again, Bet. Vanayssa
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