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Jan 3rd, 2007 at 5:28pm
 
Hello everyone,

I have been reading all the information on this website these past few days.  I promise I won't invade or be a pest.  With most of this stuff being over my head right now my questions will probabably seem petty to you.  

About me:  I'm rather simple girl from Tennessee.  I have two kids ages 11.5 and 5 months.  My husband is an HVAC guy and we're pretty much the typical family.  He likes to play golf and I like get out and go dancing but I haven't done that since my son was born this past August.  Undecided  

The reason I'm writing this is to ask for a bit of help interpreting a couple of dreams I've had, and also a dream my friend had about someone in my family.  It is intriguing and any information or direction would be so very much appreciated.

Also, I have a couple of questions that are probably not appropriate for this area regarding being 'sensitive'.   Off Topic maybe?

Again, I would be ever so grateful for anyone's reply.  Some strange things are happening to me that I'm not sure what to make of.  I haven't mentioned them to anyone because I'm scared they'll think my hormones are still out of whack from giving birth a few months ago. Embarrassed

Thanks very much,

Kate  Smiley
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Reply #1 - Jan 3rd, 2007 at 6:08pm
 
Kate welcome to the board.

You don't have to worry about "invading" or being a "pest", you have a right to post here just as much as any of us, we're all here to learn, share, and grow, so Im glad you are interested in doing this with us.  Of course, I feel it is best to do a little research first on topics you are interested in or have questions about, and if you cannot seem to find the answer or feel like talking about any of them then post away!  But thats totally up to you, any questions you have will be gladly answered.
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Reply #2 - Jan 3rd, 2007 at 11:25pm
 
I too welcome you Kate and I enjoy to try my hand at interpretation of dreams so feel free to write them down. the final interpretation will be yours, I would basically only reflect on what the symbols could mean in a general sense.

and you mentioned sensitivity..so I'm curious there too.

welcome again and we have alot here to read in the free articles at the top if you're interested. love, alysia
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Reply #3 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 11:52am
 
Thank you Laffingrain and OutofBodyDude for your replies.

I'll make these couple of dreams short and sweet with only the most important details noted.

I should start out with this first:  My Father just passed away on November 28th.  He was exposed to Agent Orange in the war and so he had brain and lung cancer.  He was diagnosed in November '05 and died almost exactly one year later -this year.  I loved him so.  I was Daddys Girl all the way.  We were like twins while my brother took after my Mom.  I saw him 3 times while he was a home in bed, dying, before he did pass on.  He heard everything I said to him even though he couldn't talk anymore.  

Dream 1- My friend dreamed about him (she's never met him) the night before he passed.  She dreamed she was holding her infant daughter (who died 4 hours after birth from T13), and she was trying to wrap the baby up really well with her little blanket.  She said she couldn't wrap her up well for some reason, was struggling, and she knew the baby was getting cold.  Then she saw a tall slender man walk up to her and say "I know you.  Here, let me help."  He took the baby from her, quickly wraped her up, and walked up a spiral staircase with the baby and was gone.  She said my Father was the man who helped her.  This friend is an internet friend so we have never met.  That was also the very first dream she has had about her infant daughter since the birth and death (August).  

Dream 2- This past Monday night.  I dreamed my Dad was alive and he married a very young Mexican lady who didn't speak much English.  He didn't tell anyone he was dating anyone let alone getting married!  He was wearing one of his suits and I remember feeling like - How in the world could you do this, Dad?!  He offered no explanations and didn't introduce her to me.  I should say that after he and my Mom divorced after 20 years together, he remarried after just a few months of dating a not so stable/nice/classy woman.  They up and went to the courthouse one day and got married.  My Grandparents called to tell me what he'd done.

Dream 3- Last night.  I dreamed I was trying to remember his pager # so I could get in touch with him (He had the same # for years and I'll probably be able to recite it until I die).  Anyway, I did remember it and I was actually saying it out loud but I didn't wake myself up - weird.  Then I decided to go to his office and when I got there I saw his sunglasses laying on the counter.  He was a loan originator in life but in the dream he worked at a retail store of some kind and so there were things hanging on the walls like cell phones, pagers, sunglesses - things like that.  As soon as I saw his sunglasses sitting there it hit me instantly that he wasn't with us anymore, he was gone.  Then I started crying and I did wake myself up this time.  

What do you guys think?

Also, I've seen some flashing lights.  I've never seen flashing lights before in my life but since my Dad died I've seen them 3 times.  The first two times I saw them out my bay windows in the kitchen.  It was the middle of the night and I was up making a bottle for my son.  I didn't see the source, only flashes right outside the window.  And just a few nights ago I was in bed (again in the wee hours of the morning) giving my son his bottle and I saw one single flash alongside the bed.  

I guess the other thing I wanted to say was that sometimes I feel like he's literally following my every step.  I'll get goosebumps out of the blue and I'll get the feeling I'm not alone.  It does scare me a little bit.  Should I talk out loud or in my thoughts to him as if he really were still here?  

To close, I have also had several dreams about Jesus, actually being in His presence.  We talked to each other with our minds and never our mouths.  Once, during church (I canter for Saturday Mass) His face flashed in front of me as I was singing a hymn at Communion.  It was exactly like when a camera flash goes off and leaves you seeing spots...  it was exactly like that.  The image of His face is still clear in my memory.

Goodness to grief...  I'm so sorry that was long and drawn out.  I'm so embarrassed! Embarrassed

Any thoughts or imput would be wonderful.  

Thanks again,

Katie Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 1:21pm
 
Greetings Katie,

Welcome to this site---It is a cyber-blessing to be sure!

Do speak to your father. Use mental thoughts if talking out loud would disturb your baby--or anyone.  Smiley  Many of us have found out amazing things during such dialogs. If you have a few questions prepared for him, he'll know you've been paying attention, and you'll get your answers (like "Who was that lady I saw you with last night?")  Wink

The flashing lights have been discussed here before, so it is an experience you share with others. In that previous discussion here most posters found it was a signal that someone beyond was ready to talk.  If you were busy you didn't respond, I suppose, but just a mental thought back to them can start dialog. Sounds like he really is watching over you!

Enjoy this new phase of your relationship.  It will lead you further into spiritual understanding.  I'm very happy for you!

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thank you for all those sharings..its a lot to think about but really got into it.
your energy signature is very lovely (my feelings of empathic) I feel like we are friends. your bond with dad is very strong. I note from my experience my nanny began to surround my mother with signs and thoughts of encouragement, she became guidance to mother. It appears this happens within family alot. Your dad is trying to awaken you to spiritual realms of the afterlife. It is because he cares, but I know it can be a little scarey at first.
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Dream 1- My friend dreamed about him (she's never met him) the night before he passed.  She dreamed she was holding her infant daughter (who died 4 hours after birth from T13), and she was trying to wrap the baby up really well with her little blanket.  She said she couldn't wrap her up well for some reason, was struggling, and she knew the baby was getting cold.  Then she saw a tall slender man walk up to her and say "I know you.  Here, let me help."  He took the baby from her, quickly wraped her up, and walked up a spiral staircase with the baby and was gone.  She said my Father was the man who helped her.  This friend is an internet friend so we have never met.  That was also the very first dream she has had about her infant daughter since the birth and death (August). 
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I have obes with internet friends all the time. I always gain from that something.
so even though we have not been in the physical presence of these internet buddies, it shows the ability of minds and souls to connect beyond physicality.
Your friend has established an emotional bond with you which allows your father to pick up on this connection directly through your subconscious mind and follow the trail so to speak to check up on her, what she may need some help on a problem. It appears your dad is becoming helper out there, like my grandmother did. It looks like he performed a classic retrieval by wrapping the baby for warmth (an extension of love) and taking the baby with him. spiral is symbolic of a dna strand. its very spiritual also. your friend was struggling with the wrapping because she struggles with the painful thoughts that she lost this child when she was already beginning to love it. she just couldn't turn the baby over without help so he took it upon himself to help. He gave her mind the symbols to work with so she could rest at ease within C1 regarding the baby. dreams are a convenient avenue for spirit (of which includes the individuality of your dad) to work with us to release painful circumstances.
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Dream 2 I dreamed my Dad was alive and he married a very young Mexican lady who didn't speak much English.  He didn't tell anyone he was dating anyone let alone getting married!  He was wearing one of his suits and I remember feeling like - How in the world could you do this, Dad?!  He offered no explanations and didn't introduce her to me.  I should say that after he and my Mom divorced after 20 years together, he remarried after just a few months of dating a not so stable/nice/classy woman.  They up and went to the courthouse one day and got married.  My Grandparents called to tell me what he'd done.
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When two people get married or join up, its not always because they are in love but rather that they would like to be in love or gain from each other.
sometimes there are issues of helpfulness to one another, a balancing act to do. since the symbol is that she is not knowing english, your dad is elected to either 1)learn her language or 2)teach her his language. or 3) do both A & B.
you are showing your surprise that dad does as he pleases without telling anyone. hes showing you a side of himself you never seen before but now he is on the other side he is able to do as he pleases as he sees life is continuing. he seems to be quite busy and certainly not suffering from the symbols u give. It also could very well be he is helping to bring these ideas into your sleep state for reflection of his greater being and that he lives.  Your dad marrying a not so stable as himself person shows he does like to offer that stability to another that he has attained. love is a funny thing; the person we date or marry will never be exactly like our own self, but sometimes the opposite traits, so it works out well in the long run to learn from each other.
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Dream 3- Last night.  I dreamed I was trying to remember his pager # so I could get in touch with him (He had the same # for years and I'll probably be able to recite it until I die).  Anyway, I did remember it and I was actually saying it out loud but I didn't wake myself up - weird.  Then I decided to go to his office and when I got there I saw his sunglasses laying on the counter.  He was a loan originator in life but in the dream he worked at a retail store.
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when we see communication devices in our dreams we are trying to express the desire to make contact with someone. Speaking outloud or even bursting into tears like I did once after a dream, is important information to guage the level of your desire to manifest the communication. (in other words you are intensely in process of manifesting your intentions.)  His office is where his soul is working. I see correlations between loan originator service and retail store. he retails loans.
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there were things hanging on the walls like cell phones, pagers, sunglesses - things like that.  As soon as I saw his sunglasses sitting there it hit me instantly that he wasn't with us anymore, he was gone.  Then I started crying and I did wake myself up this time.
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He no longer needs his sunglasses because where he is at he need not shield and protect his eyes from the sun's rays. it is a symbol of how different it is in the afterlife, that there is a lot of "objects" we no longer need utilize.
you are reacting still to his departure; you are still in process of grieving. they say it takes a year. the implements of communication devices are seen hanging about showing your dad is working in the communication fields now. in a sense these devices connect us one to another bringing messages. he becomes a messenger. messenger is also defined as a name for a helper, or in olden days, the angelic realm participants were called angels. in a sense we are shown we can become like angels unto one another.
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Also, I've seen some flashing lights.  I've never seen flashing lights before in my life but since my Dad died I've seen them 3 times.  Th first two times I saw them out my bay windows in the kitchen.  It was the middle of the night and I was up making a bottle for my son.  I didn't see the source, only flashes right outside the window.  And just a few nights ago I was in bed (again in the wee hours of the morning) giving my son his bottle and I saw one single flash alongside the bed.
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Spirit will use whatever means it can to show itself. there is a friend on this board who sees flashing lights also. peripheral vision can pick up information, in the same way a dog can hear sounds that we humans have not the range for. the lights is all you can handle right now in C1 but later u may perceive him in a more detailed way.
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Should I talk out loud or in my thoughts to him as if he really were still here?
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Certainly! remember you said he could hear you when he was in a coma? well now he's permanently in that coma place, but not negatively meant. he can hear you now as then because your thoughts can be seen, as well your emotions. although it's fear of the unknown prevents us from taking that first step towards communication with our loved ones, only we can take the first step towards them by deciding not to be afraid.
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To close, I have also had several dreams about Jesus, actually being in His presence.  We talked to each other with our minds and never our mouths.  Once, during church (I canter for Saturday Mass) His face flashed in front of me as I was singing a hymn at Communion.  It was exactly like when a camera flash goes off and leaves you seeing spots...  it was exactly like that.  The image of His face is still clear in my memory.
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always in religion the Christians said we needed a personal relationship with Christ. Christ consciousness is symbolic of choosing to love over choosing to hate. this is what J taught. it looks like you already have that personal relationship established with the face of J showing up to remind you in C1 who you are belonging to and who belongs to you that you would follow. J is also my sign I follow so that maybe thats why I felt a kinship with you right away.  Smiley  I think you just received a blessing to have that face flash before you. I have never seen that myself but occassionally a friend here will mention they have seen this and spoke with the master, or another master. J is not the only master. you should just feel the inspiration of it and give thanks you are on the right track. as far as my personal relationship with J, I have not spoken or shared thoughts that way, but see a man walking a dirt road in my mind who sees all and forgives all, paving the way for us to do the same.
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Goodness to grief...  I'm so sorry that was long and drawn out.  I'm so embarrassed! Embarrassed
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well thank you! don't be embarrassed. to think you would trust your deepest thoughts to a board...good heavens, the courage it must have took...
its not easy communicating here these things..so easy to be misunderstood and slandered...look at yourself...you are shining like a star in my eyes.
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I hope I said something good. love, alysia
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Reply #6 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 2:58pm
 
Welcome Katie.  I think you came to exactly the right place.  Usually when I see dreams posted here, I fall back on conventional and symbolic dream analysis.  Your dreams and experiences, however, seem to be directly related to the death of your father.  In your dreams it seems like you are trying to contact your father or he is trying to contact you.  The Mexican woman might have some symbolic meaning but seems to me it could also be someone who’s helping him to make contact with you.  The pager number, pagers and cell phones suggest contact or an attempt at contact.  The sunglasses might suggest he’s in a place of light.  I think if I had those dreams I would see them as assuring and positive. 

Your friend’s dream sounds very similar to what’s called a retrieval.  Others can explain that better than I can.

I’d be interested in reading the other discussions about the flashing lights but it’s hard to find something in the archives unless you know exactly what you’re looking for.  Betson’s suggestions are good (I tend to forget to ask those questions, then of course I don’t get answers).  My feeling about the lights is that when we’re in a state of shock and distress we can be more sensitive to things coming from the unconscious or from the spiritual world.  To see lights may be the way our physical brains interpret or translate the signals that we are receiving.

As for being a cantor in your church, it seems natural that you might see an image of Jesus.  I think singing can be a very spiritual thing and sometimes be very intensely experienced.   When you sing you are opening yourself up and not only are you giving but, in this case, you received as well.   That’s very special and it gives me a warm feeling just to think about it.

While you are relating personal things, please don’t be embarrassed.  Thank you for sharing your experiences.  I strongly feel that what you shared is both encouraging and comforting.  May you know love and compassion in this difficult period.  - Rob
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Reply #7 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 3:08pm
 
Alysia posted while I was writing my post.  I liked her explanation of the sunglasses better than mine - your father may be in a place of light but he doesn't need them.  Hi Alysia - like your post.
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Reply #8 - Jan 4th, 2007 at 5:24pm
 
Wow.  I have to say I'm completely speechless.  I can't tell you, all of you, how appreciative I am that you took the time to write back.

It is so neat that all of you had basically the same interpretations and even some different ones as well.  

I will admit that I am quite scared about what has been happening.  I hope this is a natural first reaction because it has caught me completely by surprise - the flashing lights and feeling the presence of my Dad.  The dreams are so pleasant though and I really love and hold close to me each one I have.  

I have always felt I had a sensitivity though I had never experienced anything up until recently.  Again, it's just very ... I'll just say I'm in complete awe.  My Dad was magical and he was well loved by everyone he knew.  I adored him.  Someone he worked with recently told me that he said he worshipped the ground I walked on.  It made me cry of course to hear that and then I wondered to myself why he never told me, or said he was proud of me?  Men - they aren't the best at showing their emotions right? Wink  

Alysia, I thank you infinity for your detailed breakdowns for each of my dreams.  I think you have picked up on me as a person to a T.  That is truly amazing.  The last three times I visited him he was awake and mostly conscious although he would slip in and out frequently.  He had a Phentynol patch on his chest for the pain so he was under some big time heavy meds.  All he could do was grunt at me or squeeze my hand if I asked or told him something.  I think you're right in that he is trying to communicate with me now that he's able to as opposed to when he was in that bed dying and couldn't talk.  

You and Rob said the same thing about the flashing lights I have seen.  My Dad knows me well indeed because flashing lights really are all I can handle right now.  Tongue  I'll take Betson's advice and I'll do my best to remain open to my Dad and to welcome anything he wants me to see, hear, or feel.

I have read the info on the site about retrievals.  It is mind blowing.  That's all I can say about that.  I have written to my friend about what you thought of her dream, Alysia, and I'm waiting for her to check her PMs.  I know she will find so much comfort in that and I know she will want me to thank you so so much for it.  I can't wait to hear from her.  I might have to ring her if my patience runs out.  Grin

And thanks a million (I'm sorry I keep saying 'thank you'.  I swear I have a few more words in my vocab than 'thank you'.  Gah!  Grin) for helping me today.  I will definately be around a lot and I'll post when some of these topics aren't so over my head.  The last thing I'd ever wanna do is make a fool outta myself so I'll be around - reading, absorbing, learning, and appreciating all the members and their thoughts.  I feel like I've indeed come to the right place for help.  

Now if I could just get my 5 month old to sleep longer than a 3 hour stretch at night!  I'm totally exausted but am having the time of my life.  Please let me know if I can be of any help to you guys as well.  I kind of feel like I don't have much to offer but I'll do  my best if you  ask something of me.  Smiley

And here is a picture of us so you can see who I am missing so badly.  And Hello from me as well.

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Smiley I like your post too Rob.
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Reply #10 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 1:29am
 
Hi Kate, nice to meet you and nice to have you here! 

Coming into this thread kind of late, I don't have more to offer than what the others have said, but I just want to say please always feel welcome to share your thoughts and experiences.  Don't be embarrassed at all.  Don't feel it is "over your head"--if you stick around, you'll find we all have many similarities, and we all are learning at our own pace. 

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Reply #11 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 2:22am
 
Hi Kate, i pick up an amazing vibe off your dad's face and i liked him immediately. he exudes strength. a strong spiritual strength and a protective element around him of you.
its no wonder he's around you now. you are very blessed to have him as father. not all of us are so blessed. a guardian spirit he is for sure.

thanks so much for the lovely pic to share, we don't get that very often here, what you have done. I appreciate it very much. I'm so pleased you stopped in and you are welcome anytime like the others said. alysia
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Reply #12 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 12:30pm
 
How sweet - thank you Alysia and Vicky.

I wanted to tell you what my friend, Kimber, said about your comments, Alysia.  I knew it would help bring her the added peace she was still looking for.  She had Lasic eye surgery yesterday too which didn't go all that well, so when she got home this definately lifted her spirits.  I started a thread and PMd her.

This is her response to my PM:

"Not a good time to read after eye surgery!!  

But seriously, I bawled. I couldn't help but feel so overwhelmed because I know that everything she was saying is true.

Katie, you have NO IDEA how much peace I have had since your dad helped me. It is so surreal how he was able to do that. How we came to know each other and how this came to help us both. God really works in mysterious ways.

It really was the strangest dream, but as I said in the thread you posted, it is so hard to describe how I felt and now feel. I'm sure you can relate though. She was so happy and content and it just made my heart feel good.  

I wish I could cry on your shoulder right now. Thank you so much for giving me your daddy."

Here are some of the replies from the other girls on the same board:

Oh Katie, that is a remarkable interpertation. It gives me goose bumps all over and brought a tear to my eye.

Wow! I got goose bumps, too!

I got goose bumps also. And hugs to you for what ever you're going through right now.

Wow, that is simply amazing!

Wow, Katie, that is amazing  I know you're going through so much right now- you are NOT crazy- there are so many deep spiritual things going on in your life right now and it must be really overwhelming trying to sort through everything. Please share it with us when you are ready- HUGS!!!

That is pretty cool. Nuf said.


This is Kimber's reply:

"I just bawled Katie! And now I can't see!!! LOL!!!
I loved reading that. Because to me, that is exactly true. I feel that he really did help me. It is really hard to explain...in fact I don't think there really is any way too. It is just a feeling I have...an overwhelming peace.  
I love your daddy too!"

In case you would like to see Kimber's daughter, I've provided the two links she has in her signature.  My Dad has always loved little ones and it makes so much sense that he was the man in Kimber's dream.

http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/view_shared?p=dafec29837daa1135d46b&skin_id...

http://www.raynaphotography.com/kambry%20slideshow%20page.htm

Happy Friday to everyone!  Smiley


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Reply #13 - Jan 5th, 2007 at 6:24pm
 
hi Kate, I was unable to get the links..probably my fault..but the baby is cute as a bugs ear I'm sure! Smiley  I'm inspired that you and Kimber are now aware what a retrieval is.

in Bruce's books (our founder here) and I'll have book out soon we tell about retrievals because this has been going on since time began, but we have this new word retrievals, for it.  I forget it's really clear to me after 6 years of studying retrievals what they are, but I forget newbies come in and they just find out about them.

on the other side where your dad is, he's really getting into the swing of it, isn't he?
I just felt a burst of happiness to think of how fast he catches on!

when I cross over I want to continue to do them too whenever I'm called on or have a connection to do one. here's what it means to me in a picture, and a picture is a thousand words right?
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Alysia,


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Great picture....Enough said.  
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