Hey Gretch,

Let me ask you the same question in reverse, Why does God, equate to there being an afterlife? Before god came into the human equation, people believed the afterlife was inside the earth, and it was just a process, of energy transfer aka [spirit leaving the physical] and heading down further inside the earth.

I believe in an afterlife, because i understand, and i can put my faith in the evidence presented for it, i can gain experience of it, and i can gain proof it's existance.

I cannot believe in evidence for god, as i cannot prove anything in connection with god to myself, i cannot put my faith in someone else's word's, wrote 2,000 years ago, when i pray, i cannot move mountains, i have never recieved a miracle, or divine inspiration.

God.. is a being created, becuase our natural fear of having no control is very strong, people find comfort from beliving in god, and i can understand why... but still my brain wont let me believe in somthing just because it make's life seem worthwhile. 100's of years ago, people had very hard live's, and there comfort was, they would die and go to heaven.. people grabbed onto that fear, and exploited it, and religon is one of the greatest methods of control ever created.

Once you break the fear of no god, your mind is open to greater possiblities, you stop believing in hell, and heaven, and you seek the truth, instead of being happy stuck in the confines of religon. Religion is forever being modified, and updated to fit in with modern principles etc.

Evidence, which you can gain, and anyone can gain is ultimately, fixed.. and unchanging.. if it works once, it will work again, experiment and reproduability, are things you can put your faith in.

The odds would say, the evidence for the afterlife is good, the evidence for the existance of god, is bad.. look at the source of god.. and see how it came about, and then find out the truth behind it/make your own conclusions, and if you dont find the idea of god, worthy of modern day thinking, eliminate it.. from your beliefs.

Grtechen, i've travelled most of the Spiritual desert trails for a long time and eventually realised God was and is, always around.

However, 'god' as presented by Christianity is a theological myth, which simply leads to a confused nowhere.

These are the folk who swore their 'god told them the Earth is flat - yet it is alleged he made it one day. He must have a terrible memory.

These are the same folk who set fire to crippled, disfigured, poor mis-shapen beings, labelling them 'witches', saying their 'god commanded them to do so by writing secretly in a book of Hebrew history.
The same folk, too, who profitably indulged in the slavery of God's Black children, but who claim to follow Jesus, whom they regard as being central to their born-again lives. They clearly followed from a very long way behind.

I hope you can find God, Gretchen - perhaps simply ask that God finds you - but I doubt if any theologian will be of much help Good Luck.

This topic kind of makes me smile, because *I* am always being bemused about why anyone would think that the afterlife and (a) god had any necessary connection...guess it just depends on what direction you approach a question from! 

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I see fine thanks, my values, work well for me.

That's Mothers day, i'll be busy

LMAO. No problem
You're not a mom are you?

Is anyone here from America?

Got my original account back, woot.  8)

What's 'woot'?

Hi Gretchen,
Why do you ask?
I am, but there's quite a range, so thank goodness everyone's willing to use English.
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I hear what your saying bet's, and i understand.

Hi Spitfire nice to hear from you again ,im going to the spiritualist church tonight and theres a physcic artist there so if i get a message the artist is going to draw the person who comes through from the spirit world ,let you know how i get on. Bless you juditha.

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I'm glad I stopped in here and noticed this....  I intend to connect long-distance with Craig tonight, just for fun.

      Best to y'all, tim

Hi Craig
Did you feel the love, man, from the Sun night PUL-fest?
Looking at the times that people were supporting you on this and other threads, and your response, I do think some of those vibes got through! Admit it, mister, you have inspired much love here!

augoeidian---Sorry I missed the note from you that we include Bruce. Could we do this again next Sunday night for Bruce?
Anyone in?
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