yea, so Dora and all. I really think I met myself so I'm going to try and describe it trying to keep in mind what Elias says about this sort of thing.
I did have the objective to do so. however, it was several years ago and I had not read anything about Elias essence groups yet. I had read Seth and his oversoul thing however.
Insofar as the objective, the intention to do this; it was formed this way for all who want to try it.
actually, to be honest, the objective was little more than a desire, really a search to get some support for a difficult time I was having then, Briefly, I was being quite wimpy and weepy over something I knew I had to do but didn't feel up to it. As I was in my mind relegating myself to the feminine area of passity, and wishing for the moment I was a "man" the principle of action, I then desired to find the action principle within myself and off I flew, seemingly into the great blue yonder, by what we call obe these days. some would call the fellow I met my counterpart as he was male. but looking back now, I think I would feel more comfortable with defining him as another focus of mine, alive physically I think in this time frame in of all places Italy. this fits well that it be Italy as frankly I have a fondness for the people and their emotional expression like I have for no other race. but here's the story as my brain recalls:

zip. I'm traveling on that familiar current again which is like electricity. I am inside a hall standing in the doorway of his house. I know I am standing there in my feelings. of hopefulness and a bit down in the mouth. I am waiting for him. there must be some assistance here of invisible nature for some unknown intelligence has gone to fetch him to me. I see him rounding the corner of another room and walking towards me and I get greatly excited and focus on his eyes. They look exactly like my own eyes, the energy which comes from his eyes is the same as my own. I see myself in him, as a male. the other features on his face are not mine. just the eyes. there goes between a feeling of reunion and ecstatic joy in this. Pul, as it were. it's been so long it seems since we were last together, and how are you doing? none of this talk was verbal but quickly understood as the offering of rotes described by Monroe. I ask him what does he think of the way I am handling my problems and he right away settles my mind that he is connected to me and has observed I'm handling the situation well and not to worry, that I am truly not wimping out as I feared. all the time his nature is amiable and easy going, just as I might think that a male counterpart would be. so then I am desiring a peek at his life and the subject turns to the fact that he is raising 3 daughters, and strangely enough I discover he is raising the teens exactly as I raised my own with the same sort of amusement and befuddlement that I went through with mine. he laughs and tells me that he knows when he makes a household rule it is going to be tested as they run up against his authority to test their own powers of their developing individuality. we laugh at this because he tells me he has wild children but they generally concede in the end dad was right.there was no doubt he had his hands full.
and that was it. just another me, doing my thing over in Italy and apparently having a gay old time.

did it help me to feel I was more balanced in active/passive polarity way than I thought? yes. but I still had to deal with the fear head on that I was generating around the situation I had to face.
love, alysia

: Dear Alysia~

: I recognized this experience as one you had shared with me a while back...and I found it just as fascinating now as then!  I must say that what Tim mentioned about Soul Groups also resonates with my own feelings on the matter, as well as what I have read.  Newton and others have done an excellent job of describing our soul groups and how we decide together with whom we will incarnate with and experience certain lifetimes.  To me, it seems that this man from Italy could be a part of your soul group, with whom you have shared other incarnations and are very connected with.  Of course, I understand a bit now what Elias says of this and am happy to say that I no longer find it to be such a contradiction to other views, such as Newton's.  I am seeing more and more that they may actually be different ways of describing the same thing.  At least this is how it feels to me.  I like the thought: NO ABSOLUTES.  What a freeing concept!

: Much love, Sydnei
 
I forgot to tell you once I saw you as part of our group here, you were sitting with your child, the boy was smaller, around one, I think, in your lap and you smiled at me...hee hee. I said now, who's that, she likes me! hee. nothing profound here, just wanted to share that I didn't know who it was (2001 or 2002) now I think it was my dear Sydnei friend. this was when I imagined being at retriever school and before I met you.
yes, I like no absolutes, and it's like Murpheys law, but you can turn that around to anything that can go right, can and will go right, and anything that goes wrong, you can find the right inside of the wrong by listening very intently.
sometimes I think it does not matter much what we say here, it only matters that we make connections to each other, touching base as it were. love, alysia

I love it Alysia!

I'm unsure of what Elias would say, as I've never read anything of his.
But I've been made aware of this very event recently....so I would say that this time now, is something that is meant to happen.
Did this man from Italy seem like a long lost brother?

The reason I ask this is:  I just finished rereading Ultimate Journey by Monroe, and near the end of the book he asks a guide of his about this other self he is aware of, a woman he thinks living at his present time.  The Guide replies "she would seem like a long lost sister to you, but you need not dwell on meeting her".

Personally, I just love being aware of other members of my extended soul group (disk?).

When I went to Gateway, in one visualization I was on this round stage, abave all these people.  An angel was standing behind me....this great big guy. Mom was standing next to me.  I look out at all the people and realized that these were all members of my soul group.  Surrounding the stage were hundreds of people, some I recognized (Marilyn and Sharon off to my left, my wife and son near the edge of the stage...) and others I didn't.  But extended off to my right was a stream of thousands more people, and the stream went on for as far as I could see.
It made me realize that no, I am truly not alone here.

hope this helps sister...............Tim

: yea, so Dora and all. I really think I met myself so I'm going to try and describe it trying to keep in mind what Elias says about this sort of thing.
: I did have the objective to do so. however, it was several years ago and I had not read anything about Elias essence groups yet. I had read Seth and his oversoul thing however.
: Insofar as the objective, the intention to do this; it was formed this way for all who want to try it.
: actually, to be honest, the objective was little more than a desire, really a search to get some support for a difficult time I was having then, Briefly, I was being quite wimpy and weepy over something I knew I had to do but didn't feel up to it. As I was in my mind relegating myself to the feminine area of passity, and wishing for the moment I was a "man" the principle of action, I then desired to find the action principle within myself and off I flew, seemingly into the great blue yonder, by what we call obe these days. some would call the fellow I met my counterpart as he was male. but looking back now, I think I would feel more comfortable with defining him as another focus of mine, alive physically I think in this time frame in of all places Italy. this fits well that it be Italy as frankly I have a fondness for the people and their emotional expression like I have for no other race. but here's the story as my brain recalls:

: zip. I'm traveling on that familiar current again which is like electricity. I am inside a hall standing in the doorway of his house. I know I am standing there in my feelings. of hopefulness and a bit down in the mouth. I am waiting for him. there must be some assistance here of invisible nature for some unknown intelligence has gone to fetch him to me. I see him rounding the corner of another room and walking towards me and I get greatly excited and focus on his eyes. They look exactly like my own eyes, the energy which comes from his eyes is the same as my own. I see myself in him, as a male. the other features on his face are not mine. just the eyes. there goes between a feeling of reunion and ecstatic joy in this. Pul, as it were. it's been so long it seems since we were last together, and how are you doing? none of this talk was verbal but quickly understood as the offering of rotes described by Monroe. I ask him what does he think of the way I am handling my problems and he right away settles my mind that he is connected to me and has observed I'm handling the situation well and not to worry, that I am truly not wimping out as I feared. all the time his nature is amiable and easy going, just as I might think that a male counterpart would be. so then I am desiring a peek at his life and the subject turns to the fact that he is raising 3 daughters, and strangely enough I discover he is raising the teens exactly as I raised my own with the same sort of amusement and befuddlement that I went through with mine. he laughs and tells me that he knows when he makes a household rule it is going to be tested as they run up against his authority to test their own powers of their developing individuality. we laugh at this because he tells me he has wild children but they generally concede in the end dad was right.there was no doubt he had his hands full.
: and that was it. just another me, doing my thing over in Italy and apparently having a gay old time.

: did it help me to feel I was more balanced in active/passive polarity way than I thought? yes. but I still had to deal with the fear head on that I was generating around the situation I had to face.
: love, alysia

Alysia,

"I'm going to try and describe it trying to keep in mind what Elias says about this sort of thing.
"

Well not Elias or Seth, or speaking from my own experiences, or the individuals who I interact with described, their connection with their other focuses as you describe.....but quite interesting what you experienced...

Was this encounter in your dream state?

The reason is your experience kind of unusual, because in my understanding - and my experiences - support Seth/Elias... that *I* as essence manifest as focuses/lives.. and each focus is a different one, new one, with new experiences, different aligments with beliefs, and may or may not even similiar physical features... there is no point for as *I* essence manifesting and experiencing the same lives.. same circumstences... and certainly when anyone who I interact with, or myself  connecting with  other focuses,  is not like meeting someone else, and talk to them as a different person... that focus as me now as that individual(s) also me.. so I don't experience them as a separate individuals who I talk to...

But as Elias stating  many time there is NO ABSOLUTE...and every experience is just as valid then any other, long as we understand that what we believe it is true to us, but certainly not the Ultimate truth...

Love
Dora