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Message started by kirolak on Jun 15th, 2009 at 2:41am

Title: Astral Planes "removed"?
Post by kirolak on Jun 15th, 2009 at 2:41am
There is a topic on another forum I belong to (Astral Dynamics, if I'm allowed to mention the name) where someone complained that they felt the astral planes had been 'removed"; a number of other people also posted that they could no longer project as they used to, & I too have found it impossible since around that time,  to get out of the body beyond my bedroom- I simply can not get through the ceiling!

Could it really be a "tweaking" of everyone's abilities, as someone there suggested?  Can the planes really be "removed" (I think Mme Blavatsky mentioned this possibility in some of her writings) or is this really a self-fulfulling fear/expectation?

I'd really appreciate some more experienced soul's input!

Title: Re: Astral Planes "removed"?
Post by PhantasyMan on Jun 15th, 2009 at 1:16pm

I know there are rules out there.  Someone can be lock if OoBE damage his earth life experience instead of helping him to grow.  Ex.: Could happen if the OoBE  grows his ego instead of his consciousness.  

Also, often, people think there are able to OoBE by themself... Itís not always the case.  Often they are helped by guide for specific growth reasons.   The be able to OoBE at will, we need to grow spiritually first.  

Title: Re: Astral Planes "removed"?
Post by recoverer on Jun 15th, 2009 at 7:30pm
Hello Kirolak:

Check out this link. On the other hand, in his recent book, Dannion Brinkley wrote that the astral realm close to this earth is getting really crowded and millions of souls are stuck.

Title: Re: Astral Planes "removed"?
Post by betson on Jun 16th, 2009 at 11:29am
Greetings Kirolak,

I've had that happen also  :)  I've come to think that we remove ourselves from the opportunity, rather than the astral itself moving.

What you said about 'self-fulfilling" fear comes close to my understanding and experience.
In order to get back to astral explorations I've had to 'retune' my soul/consciousness by clearing continuing build-ups of little fears and also rebuilding PUL/kindness and caring as my motivation. Several times.  :-?
I'm assuming this will be an on-going situation since I'm not living as consciously/ soul-fulfillingly as I should.


Title: Re: Astral Planes "removed"?
Post by OutOfBodyDude on Jul 27th, 2009 at 6:44pm
Betson, I totally agree with you.

The idea that the astral planes are being removed is simply not true.  I have read and responded to that post on the AD forums.  This guy found he was no longer able to astral project, and went looking for the reason why.  He found an answer which he liked in an article written by a "channel of nature".. elephants and walruses to be exact (LOL!!!).  I wasnt able to read the whole article because it was basically an endless ramble, but what he got from the article was that the planes were being removed.  He obviously liked this answer because it placed the problem outside of himself, that it was not him, it was the PLANES which were being removed!  

I can say from first hand experience that this is not the case, I have had many projections since the initial writing of the original article.  Many other projectors on other forums have as well.  If you are not able to project to a certain level, it simply means your energy is not tuned finely enough to experience that level.  

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