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Message started by Petrus on Jan 7th, 2005 at 12:19am

Title: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Petrus on Jan 7th, 2005 at 12:19am
Hi again,
This one just happened spontaneously as I was trying to get to sleep.

I'm hanging suspended above water, as far as I can see.  It's moderately turbulent...not raging, but not calm either.  Suddenly a small girl of indeterminate age is floating past me, and as I look at her I have to work hard not to take on board a sensation of severe panic which I know must have been hers.  I am also hit with the sensation of gasping for air...lungs filling with water and desperately trying to avoid swallowing more water.  I swallow hard myself, and shake my head to clear the projected fear.  The girl sees me and begins crying out repeatedly.
"Where's my Mummy?  Where's my Mummy?"  She begins freaking out more than she was when I initially saw her.  I closed my eyes and caused a wooden raft to manifest under my feet so as not to scare her from the site of me floating above the water.
I tell her I'm not entirely sure where her mother is, but that I have an idea where she might be found.  The girl calms a little on hearing this and taking her arm, I pull her up onto the raft.  Coughing, she brings up seawater which causes me to panic a bit more myself...I'm very new at this.
While she is sitting on the raft with me I try and think of a way to get her to F27 in a way she'll be comfortable with...I worry the portal trick would scare her.  I give her a hug, along with attempting to generate a little pinkish energy to send to her, and this causes her breathing to become more regular.  As I do this, a fishing ship passes by the raft, and a man calls down to us.  A rope comes down and I hold the girl up to it...she moves up the rope slowly and I see her being greeted by the man who threw it down.  The ship continues on its path, and confident the girl will now be all right, I rise up into the air and keep moving, back up to C-1.

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 7th, 2005 at 1:05am
Beautiful Petrus. You're a natural at this.  :)

Love,
Mairlyn   :D

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by gordon phinn on Jan 11th, 2005 at 12:11am
Make no mistake Petrus, this was a retrieval.  Even if you were not consciously intending one.  It might even be a replay of something from the night before, designed to wake you up into the knowledge that you're doing this regularly.
Remain calm and open, and much more will come your way.

gordon

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Petrus on Jan 11th, 2005 at 6:01pm

Quote:
Make no mistake Petrus, this was a retrieval.  Even if you were not consciously intending one.  It might even be a replay of something from the night before, designed to wake you up into the knowledge that you're doing this regularly.


Hi Gordon,
Yeah, the other reason why I was inclined to think this was genuine myself was because of some of the negative mental imagery I started getting after it...really nasty stuff.  It reminded me of what I was reading on ascension2000.com...that there are beings around who, if you start doing something like that where it's being even marginally helpful, they will basically show up to try and either scare you out of doing it, or attack you in some other way in order to get you to stop...Come to think of it, that might be the cause of some of the medical problems I heard about Bruce having...that he does a lot of good, but some of the really negative entities around really don't like that, and so they attack him (and me, and presumably others) to try and get us to stop.

Have you had any problems along these lines yourself??  I think the main reason why I've been vulnerable recently is because of a lot of guilt/other complex emotions I've been working through as a result of coming out of more orthodox Christianity.

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 11th, 2005 at 6:19pm
Hi Petrus,

I know this is addressed to Gordon, but I just wanted to say that I've never had anything negative at all in doing any retrievals or explorations.  But then I always surround myself with white light and rebal for protection.  ;)

Love,
Mairlyn

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Petrus on Jan 12th, 2005 at 2:02am

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I know this is addressed to Gordon, but I just wanted to say that I've never had anything negative at all in doing any retrievals or explorations.


With me I think it's a case to a degree of getting what I expect...not so much in the sense that I expect anything bad in that sense...directly...but more that as I've said I have had problems with guilt and so on, and that can cause problems.  Like anything else, the state of my head can make me vulnerable to negative experiences, or can help to ensure I have positive ones.  I think I need to work on remembering that.

Also though...even though this is addressed to Gordon, I don't mind at all you offering me your opinion!  ;D  Especially since I get the impression that you have quite a lot of experience doing this, as well...I'm still learning the ropes here. ;)

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by gordon phinn on Jan 12th, 2005 at 5:46pm
Hi Petrus,

I do believe that negative entities/energies, the "brothers of the left hand path" do try, and often succeed, at least for a while, in derailing our attempts at evolution.  That's their job; they are the "rebel angels" who volunteered to administer the anti-evolutionary forces on this planet since the beginning, and I honour their task as the "free-will option" couldn't work without them.  We have to have the chance to be stupid/wicked/selfish/power-mad, else we won't know why we're on the path we're on, and those guys light the way.
Now that doesn't mean I don't fight their influence, of course I do.  And that doesn't mean they're all conscious in their activity.  Often they're dupes of their own absorbed anxiety/fear/illusion of selfhood, you know, slaves of their bad habits.

I do believe they attack anyone who gets a handle on their own power, ie beginning meditators, retrievers, obe'ers, but as Marilyn says, you can protect yourself.
An experience like yours, was had by me, in England, on one of my crop circle trips.  (I made about five in the nineties).  After being deeply energised by some formations I visited one day, one the drive home I felt the energy move down from my heart (fourth) chakra to my second chakra, and suddenly I was almost overwhelmed with sexuality and a desire to look at pornography.  I'm fairly in tune with my sexuality (ie not ashamed), so it was not conventional repression at work, but something more insidious.  Anyway an interesting experience.
Not much interference with retrievals that I could detect.  But a couple of cases of interference with distance healings and one exorcism type situation.

Just "observe" yourself dispassionately as you go about your meditation/exploration/retrieval work and their attempts to derail you will manifest themselves one way or another.

Don't panic over conventional religious stuff like "sin"; they can sense that and will use it.  Work with the light in compassion and love and they can't touch you.

cheers, gordon

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Marilyn Traver on Jan 14th, 2005 at 12:53am
Gordon, I'd love to hear about your exorcism experience if you feel like posting it. I'm sure others would too.  :o

Love,
Mairlyn :D

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Firequeen on Jan 14th, 2005 at 11:19am
Just a reply on battleing to Negative spirits. Last month I had an encounter. My Hanai  daughter just returned from a family trip to the mainland with her alchohlic father. she spent the night at myhouse. I woke up at 3:00am went to the bathroom then decided to go back to bed. In that moment I split, part of me stayed in bed the other part sat at the kitchen table with the light on. While sitting at the table I noticed a man stairing inthrough the screen. I read his mind, This is key because this explains why..... He was just wandering through the darkness like he always does and he noticed a LIGHT, he had never seen a light there(in his darkness) before and was curious, and so he found me and my light. I KNEW he was going to come in and attack so I ran to the front door and tryied to lock it, he broke in through the back, where the girls were sleeping. I heard and felt an explosion in my right arm, the whole wall vibrated, he had shot me, then he lungded at me and my two selfs came together, I was back in the bed, my eyes were open, he was right on top me, I watched him dissappear slowly.

I asked my hanai daughters father who latched on to him while visiting his family, who was the murderer??  With hesitation he told me his grandfather was a mafia man who murdered and lived in hate, his mother was concieved in rape from this man.

So this was a dark spirit who was as he had always been, murdering and hateing, apon seeing my light, her tried to fight, rape and murder. I felt he knew no other way.
What I learned was where ever the light is brightest, the shadow will cling next to it darkest.
Aloha

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by alysia on Jan 14th, 2005 at 2:14pm
aloha Firequeen :D this is interesting. you are right that the light attracts. this looks like an opportunity to retrieve. will you be wanting to? I once retrieved a rapist and was surprised how easy it was, but of course there were guides all about, sort of standing by if I couldn't pull it off. Were you scared? I was. another thing I do when there is dark energies is lecture them. lol! they either go away in boredom and disgust or find the light current they are looking for. love, alysia ;D :o ;)

Title: Re: Another one - From Tsunami?
Post by Firequeen on Jan 14th, 2005 at 3:56pm
alysia, not sure how to retrive such a violent spirit. I sent him away, the gunshot to my arm affected me, and the attacks I could do without.  ALOHA

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