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Message started by JADEN on Mar 7th, 2005 at 2:15pm

Title: how do you know where you are now
Post by JADEN on Mar 7th, 2005 at 2:15pm
how do you know if you are on earth right now or if you are existing in one the various hells or heavens.you have said that these places such as focus 27 have cities and buildings and people. hoe do you know youre not dead now?

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by Tim Furneaux on Mar 7th, 2005 at 2:29pm
Welcome to the board friend!   That is a very good question, one which has come up for me before.  My answer is personal, what works for me.  If I'm not sure if I'm in a physical form or a non-physical form, I see if I can fly.  If I can fly, then I figure I'm non-physical.....ahhh, but perhaps there is a deeper question, lurking behind the one you posted?  Tim

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by Shirley on Mar 7th, 2005 at 3:14pm
I've thought of this question often..and try not to.  Sometimes..I don't "feel" here..or like I'm in two places.  
Is this real?  Or..is the dream I was in real?  

I don't know..and I try not to think to hard about it..just going with the flow of wherever I am..

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by scottyswotty on Mar 7th, 2005 at 5:12pm
i think its quite easy to tell you arent in dream state or in some transitional realm at the moment.

1. The physical parameters of the NOW aren't very malleable or breakable.  ie as Tim said, you can't just fly and you dont suddenly find yourself in a different location and can't explain why.

2.  Here on earth in the NOW you will notice you have perfect lucidity and the chain of your conscious experience is unbroken and doesnt switch to something else. ie this NOW experience would have to be the longest dream in the world.

3.  there is minimal or no spiritual or supra-physical contact when you ask for it. (sadly)  :(

4. Also there is a large delay between wanting something and manifesting it or maybe it never manifests at all unless you get off the couch and work for it.

If we aren't on earth right now then boy would I rather be on earth  :P

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by Crying Raven on Mar 7th, 2005 at 10:43pm
I guess the only answer I can give is, we don't know.  We just might be stuck in a hell (I cannot believe this is anyone's heaven  ;D )

I wondered the same thing when I was reading Bruce's books.  Since those people in those hells think they are in a real life...then how do I know I'm not one of them in my own hell?

I personally don't feel that I am.  So just ask your heart, and listen to what it tells you.  Besides, whether I am or not doesn't change how I plan on living my life :)

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by roger prettyman on Mar 8th, 2005 at 5:35am
Surely, we must be in the "physical" here on earth. I do not believe we are stuck in either a heaven or hell.

My understanding is that in the Afterlife there is no time - well, we have time here. Unless, of course, it`s possible to manifest time in the Afterlife after all.
Also, as previous posters have mentioned, we are unable to fly, transport ourselves instantly from one location to another. Would we wish to be in spirit form with so many undesirables and evil people if we are also able to manifest our own surroundings There?
If we are in some heaven or hell, I wonder where we could reincarnate to when we eventually die here?

roger   :)

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by Nutmeg on Mar 9th, 2005 at 7:25am
If this IS hell, I must have done something VERY bad in my previous life  :(

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by dave_a_mbs on Mar 9th, 2005 at 9:51pm
I think you're right Jaden. This is only a dream.

So what?

dave

Title: Re: how do you know where you are now
Post by JADEN on Mar 14th, 2005 at 5:33pm
this message is for dave_a_mbs. your thoughts have irritated me if you want to make an enemy of me you have done it. when you start to see strange things and are scared know that it was from me. you dont know me or what i am or capable of. i can feel your tiny mind here in alaska youre not even capable of empathy the most basic of psychic ability you have none . does jessica ring abell? by the way you did not understand my question. i dont need any of your opinions because i know so much already i just like to know what other people think.

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