I am reading the "silly little finger bending exercise" from Bruce's book and i am wondering if someone can describe this "intent state of consciousness" because for now i see that sequence only as the brain (or the thing which pilots the brain - the soul) giving a brief and "flat" order no more... hence saying one can call it a "feeling" here is a bit optimistic from my perspective...

Thanks for your enlightenment.

I am still an novice with this book. And what i feel when doing that exercise is a little marble like pressure in the back part of the brain. Or when i focus in that part of brain and listen, i hear a certain tone which can be intensified by that focus. Does that make sense to you?

Yeah i understand what you say but this feeling is not so stable and easily recognisable as far as i am concerned.

I clearly feel something in my head SOMETIMES but i dont feel it really before the bending but more during the bending...

Hmm, how about you try to bend your energetic finger without moving that physical finger? The feeling looks the same to me. Without physical muscle tension that energetic movement feels also more subtle or fluid.

One of my takeaways from the silly little finger bending exercise is that of a methodology to aid us in the shift to the state where there is only the observing, and the observing of the observing. There is nothing else to do when we shift to where seeing arises from, to paraphrase a peer.

Soulmael wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

Hmm, how about you try to bend your energetic finger without moving that physical finger? The feeling looks the same to me. Without physical muscle tension that energetic movement feels also more subtle or fluid.

Interesting !

Morrighan wrote on Jul 28^th, 2017 at 9:18am:

One of my takeaways from the silly little finger bending exercise is that of a methodology to aid us in the shift to the state where there is only the observing, and the observing of the observing. There is nothing else to do when we shift to where seeing arises from, to paraphrase a peer.

Would you have a description of that feeling dear Morrighan ?

When you are where seeing arises from it feels like home because you are home.

OK, I'll jump in on this thread; I've got more questions. The closest I've got is occasionally feeling some stiction in the finger as it starts to bend. Stiction is an engineering term describing the extra force required to start moving against dry (not lubricated) friction. OK, I'm an engineer. Maybe that's why Bruce's writing appeals to me. However, I doubt that the stiction feeling is what I'm after.

Questions:
1. Now that I'm familiar with the Silly Little Finger Exercise, though unsuccessful, should I progress further in the book, continuing to do the SLF exercise?
2. After I've done the 3DRB, energy gathering etc. and gotten familiar with my finger, I'm asked to do the 3DRB etc. again. However, I've still got some energy flowing. What am I supposed to do with that?

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Questions: 1. Now that I'm familiar with the Silly Little Finger Exercise, though unsuccessful, should I progress further in the book, continuing to do the SLF exercise? 2. After I've done the 3DRB, energy gathering etc. and gotten familiar with my finger, I'm asked to do the 3DRB etc. again. However, I've still got some energy flowing. What am I supposed to do with that?

1.  Yes, continue progressing through the book, and I think just being familiar with the concept of the SLF exercise is ok.  You understand the fundamentals of it.  I still periodically practice the SLF exercise just as a way of reinforcing the basis of that concept in my mind.

2.  Let it flow and do its own thing while you move on.  You don't have to fix your attention on it.  You can move on in the book.  I've found that with good, solid practice of the 3DRB and the energy gathering that it becomes a thing with a life of its own without me having to concentrate on practicing it.  In other words, once I get really good at making it flow, it's as if I can kind of "sit back" and observe it happening. 

That tells me that I'm in a good, relaxed altered state.  I see the 3DRB and energy gathering as a way of distracting the conscious mind (the part of us who wants to be in control of everything) and allowing it to relax and let go, while also giving our subconscious a chance to take center stage.  To me, that's the benefit of this light altered state.  Even without using these exercises as a stepping board for other nonphysical exploration, it serves well as a very relaxing meditative state of being to really take the edge off of the Beta state of mind. 

What Vicky says, +1. Onward through the fog! (To quote Oat Willie.)

Recall Bruce is an engineer. The SLFBE is Bruce's approach to identifying what I call the metapoint of intent and creation. Different languaging, same observation.

Morrighan wrote on Aug 8^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

What Vicky says, +1. Onward through the fog! (To quote Oat Willie.) Recall Bruce is an engineer. The SLFBE is Bruce's approach to identifying what I call the metapoint of intent and creation. Different languaging, same observation.

Thanks.  That helps to understand your terminology for the same concept.   :)

Thanks for the encouragement. I'll press on.
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So its been few times that i feel a very clear and localized sensation in my brain while moving the finger or anything like an activation in my brain... Is it the good one one are looking for ? (Bruce was talking more about the feeling of anticipation whereas here i am talking about a physical sensation so i am not sure...?)

Focus 69 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 7:06am:

So its been few times that i feel a very clear and localized sensation in my brain while moving the finger or anything like an activation in my brain... Is it the good one one are looking for ? (Bruce was talking more about the feeling of anticipation whereas here i am talking about a physical sensation so i am not sure...?)

Have you engaged with that which observes yet?

Morrighan wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

Focus 69 wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 7:06am: So its been few times that i feel a very clear and localized sensation in my brain while moving the finger or anything like an activation in my brain... Is it the good one one are looking for ? (Bruce was talking more about the feeling of anticipation whereas here i am talking about a physical sensation so i am not sure...?) Have you engaged with that which observes yet?

Engaged with that brain sensation ? What this supposed to mean ?

I mean precisely what I wrote, Focus 69. This is not me being glib. In the process of the Silly Little Finger Bending Exercise can you shift to that which observes?

Morrighan wrote on Aug 9^th, 2017 at 2:39pm:

I mean precisely what I wrote, Focus 69. This is not me being glib. In the process of the Silly Little Finger Bending Exercise can you shift to that which observes?

TL;DR (too long; don't read) version of my previous post:

Reside beyond thought in the silence of being.

I understand it like this as retracing back from physical to nonphysical:
- the finger bending is the reaction to intent that is the cause
- the intent arises from the stillness when consciousness is focused in the 'cave of brahma'
- the stilness i would call an observer (or soul)
- also there is another observer (oversoul) that observes the observer
- what is beyond the oversoul is now in this part of life not important to know yet.. i think

And meditation is a tool frequently prescribed to access the observer. It's not the only path, as the SLFBE demonstrates. As a matter of personal preference, I tend to give wide berth to the models of "soul" and "oversoul". In part this is because both are heavily laden with multiple layers of belief systems that are a real pain to untangle.

What I observe, personally, is at some point after sufficient practice the shift is found to be seamless. When I'm at work I simply begin to work and that's all there is to it. For example, if my friend gives me a name I get an instant "hit" without any rigamarole of ceremony or preparation.

A brief example:

Some years ago in Earth Time a classmate of mine died. We were friendly as kids and were both in the school band. And we part ways as people do in life. It is with some surprise I learn my old friend passed away. You know, same age and all, it's a little disconcerting, hey? In physical terms, he had a heart attack as he slept. His wife found his remains in the morning, so rather more disconcerting for her.

And while I intuit nothing is out-of-sorts, which is to say I understand no retrieval is required, I decide to "check in on him". Because, you know, I'm doing this retrieval thing and I've got a good track record that I've correlated through partnered retrievals. Many years ago, right.

So I do all this preparation that I believe is necessary. Stuff from TMI and elsewhere, the relaxed state and quieting the mind and all that. Normally (in this period) this takes me a good while to get "settled in". And as I do all this preparation for this work I hear my friend: Hurry up! I gotta go!

Quite instantly I get what some refer to as a "thought ball". I call them "downloads" these days. The sum of it is: in a slice of a moment of a slice of a moment I hold full and complete understanding of the message. Explaining it here would require a whole book chapter.

When we're doing this work the material comes in, in a non-linear fashion. Thought ball or download or strawberry walnut, doesn't matter what it's called. It's outside of language, and that's why it takes so many words to explain what occurred. This is good if you're writing a book because (in my experience) retrievals are more or less quicksilver fast. If you're telling a story to publish a book, it's necessary to have a lot of words, right?

What I relate with this tale is: in my experience, we set aside our beliefs about what should happen in favor of what does happen. Which is a really long way of saying I don't personally get hung up on the mechanics of any process.

Only the act of observing alone develops this skills? Is it like downloading bits of data everytime you observe until something clicks and you start to know without doubt what you receive is real?

Soulmael wrote on Aug 12^th, 2017 at 4:57am:

Only the act of observing alone develops this skills? Is it like downloading bits of data everytime you observe until something clicks and you start to know without doubt what you receive is real?

Not sure I said that. Awareness of the observer position is something that happens. It's not a cause and I've yet to see any "cause and effect".

Meditation, for example, isn't something one does. Meditation is what occurs when there is nothing else to do. Likewise, I observe, being tuned to dimensions outside the 3D realms occurs when one stops trying. We are already there. There is no "there" there. That's what I observe.