of greed, selfishness and materialism.  In many ways, it's reminiscent of the battles fought during different Atlantean cycles during periods of great change and conflict between the polarities.

   The following is a youtube video debate between Rachel Parent, a then 14 year old anti GMO activist and Kevin O'Leery, typical corporate businessman and materialist on the side of Monsanto. 

    At every turn when he is logically put in his place and corrected for the inaccurate info he presents, he starts to try to manipulate towards the, oh you don't care about the dying kids in Asia b.s.    As if Rachel lacks more heart than him and Monsanto.  ;D

   He even calls her a shill!  Ain't that the kettle calling the pot black.  If anyone is getting paid here to promote a certain view, its definitely not intelligent, well informed and impassioned Rachel, it's Kevin O'Leery the guy who lectures on getting rich.   The irony. 

  Keep in mind that the backdrop for this video is the huge legal battles happening in different countries between huge mega corporation Monsanto and states, provinces, individual farmers and consumers/consumer activist groups regarding the issue of labeling of GMO food.

  Monsanto is expending every effort, and spending millions upon millions to force legislature to vote no labeling whatsoever.  They do not want us to know what is GMO and what is not.   

This is why Rachel keeps coming back to the issue of labeling and testing, though Kevin keeps trying to put her into a corner and make her look like an extremist, who is anti science and anti progress. 

Thank you Rachel for standing up to the bullies like Kevin and Monsanto.  Thank you for caring from the heart and trying to affect positive change.  Thank you for incarnating at this time to be of service to your fellow humans.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDOYYaZyj4


   

hmm It is a difficult issue. There are millions of people malnourished, diseased and starving and their populations rapidly rising higher and over crowded in arid regions where sufficient crops are impossible to grow. The western world has been shipping in crates of emergency food to such places for years, trying to minimise deaths from famine. Africa is of course one of the worst places for this but there are other places too. A solution may be to modify crops so they will grow in such places. Otherwise what else is there to do?

1796 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 11:12am:

hmm It is a difficult issue. There are millions of people malnourished, diseased and starving and their populations rapidly rising higher and over crowded in arid regions where sufficient crops are impossible to grow. The western world has been shipping in crates of emergency food to such places for years, trying to minimise deaths from famine. Africa is of course one of the worst places for this but there are other places too. A solution may be to modify crops so they will grow in such places. Otherwise what else is there to do?

   There isn't and hasn't been a lack of food in the world for the most part, and GMO crops to date do not produce significantly greater yields than non GMO crops. 

  The amount of food and crops that richer countries like America throw away each year is tremendous. 

   It's more a problem of distribution and politics, rather than raw materials and resources. 

    There are globalization forces in the world that want places like Africa to be weak and dependent and manipulate both policies in their own countries and within the countries within the African continent. 

Then there are the internal issues and strife's, which cause problems. 

   GMO crops is not an answer to this.  There are crops that are innately drought resistant, very nutritious and would do well in many places of Africa.  Such as Amaranth. 

  The answer is changing the policies within the North American and Euro countries whose corporations and governments take advantage of a weak and divided Africa, and teaching the African people by example how to fish, rather than occasionally handing them fish to use the old saying.

Monsanto does not give a crap about starving people anywhere, they care about one thing and one thing only, profit. 

They care so much about profit that they have engineered seeds to produce viable crops for only one planting/season, and after become sterile/non viable. 

The purpose?  To keep farmers and individuals dependent on them to buy seed every year from them.  They desire total control of the process.

  This is the same company that is most pushing GMO crops, and are we to trust them? 

  Ultimately, this is a spiritual issue and relates to problems of greed and selfishness, rather than a nature issue.   There is no easy fix for these problems, because as mentioned, it's a combination of both internal issues within those countries and the influence and pressures of countries from without with a lot more wealth, power, and influence and who see these other countries as $$$ with resources to exploit. 

  Ironically, when the world wide collapses comes, and when electricity is shut down in most places as it will be, it will be many of these so called 3rd world countries and the people within same that will fare better than 1st world countries and people in same. 

  The people in the former are not so divorced from the earth and the natural ways yet, and not so fully dependent on electricity, computers and the like.  Without the meddling of other nations, they will be able to regroup faster, though many everywhere will transition to the nonphysical. 

Re. "...The answer is changing the policies within the North American and Euro countries whose corporations and governments take advantage of a weak and divided Africa, and teaching the African people by example how to fish, rather than occasionally handing them fish to use the old saying. ..."

Help me understand, Justin.

How are the policies of western governments and practices of big business preventing Africans from growing their own food?

And what sort of policy changes would enable Africans to do so?

  One of the common tactics is by either supporting and helping corrupt regimes and dictators/rulers that keep those countries weak and the people divided.  They provide weapons, intel, mercenaries, money, drugs, etc to help in these efforts.

  Or, when a good leader arises, someone with the potential to unite people and bring about positive change, they either kill, imprison, or otherwise nullify their effect and replace them with people who can more easily be bought and influenced.  This doesn't happen in just African countries, but has happened and does happen around the world. 

  Such leaders then allow corporations to come in and plunder their natural resources like diamonds.  How does this relate to people growing their own food.  It's kind of hard to grow your own food, when skirmishes are constantly happening, when water is hard to obtain, when you can't afford seeds, and when the food that is being sent in often can't get in because of these corrupt groups taking it for themselves, destroying it, etc.

It's really hard to get your crap together when faced with so many different simultaneous challenges.

   That's the more extreme side of it.  The less extreme side are the groups that mean well, and try to help, but do so from giving fish, rather than teaching how to do same.   Such groups will come in, dig some wells, give some food, build some houses or shelters, etc, but once they are gone, and they always leave at some point, these very poor, uneducated people are left with a sense of dependency.  Nor do they have the know how or resources to fix the well pumps, etc once those groups are out of the scene. 

   Their should be a lot more focus on educating these folks on how to do for themselves, how to build their own wells, etc, etc.   

   Then there is the issue of hunting, because a lot of tribes in these countries are and have long been more hunting than purely agrarian type societies (some are and have been more agrarian though).   

  Poaching is such a big problem, and of course land development is a growing issue, that there are less resources aka animals to hunt for local food for the tribes.  Poaching is both an internal issue and an external issue.  Probably China is the worst influence as regards poaching, but many western countries are big contributors.  Lot's of rich people in all the above countries love having ivory, pelts, exotic meats, etc, etc from Africa and they will pay large sums to get same (often illegally too). 

   Since the poachers only care about the specific parts of the animals they are killing, they oft kill large amounts and leave much of the meat rotting.  Many, many more animals are killed for poaching and not local hunting for food purposes. 

    Obviously there needs to be much stronger world wide crack down on the black market of animal parts, and that relates to legal policies.  Politicians and policies are easily bought and influenced by money though. 

  In any case, to think that GMO foods will be a solution to people's food and starvation problems in these poorer and very manipulated countries, is the height of simplicity and nativity.  And we're only touching on the surface of the issues.

There are NO easy solutions and quick fixes, especially to the problems of many African countries.  But a good start would be to leave these people alone except for helpful purposes and aid (again, more in the form of teaching important skills). 

   

   

    

Monsanto doesn't want to put GMO labels on food because if they did it would be easier for people to select non GMO food, and in order to remain competitive, Monsanto would have to make GMO free food.

I bought Quinoa at Trader Joe's the other day and it did not have a non-GMO label. I asked about it, and a person from Trader Joe's said all their products are GMO free. If this is so, I wonder why they didn't put a non-GMO lable.

I wouldn't fully trust Trader Joes either, as it seems even some of the better companies are lying about some things.

  Whole Foods recently got in trouble for knowingly carrying and not labeling GMO foods, despite that their slogan is that they carry nothing artificial, etc. 

  GMO is most certainly artificial.  The PR person explaining their reasoning seemed to be using convoluted logic to defend this. 

  I've thought of boycotting Whole Foods, but it's a tough one, because it's still better to support them than most of the other chains i have access too.  There are some small, local natural food stores, and i try to support them when i can, but they are even pricier than Whole Foods with most things and i don't make much money. 

This is what Trader Joe's says about GMO products.

http://www.traderjoes.com/about/customer-updates-responses.asp?i=4

wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 2:57pm:

...    It's more a problem of distribution and politics, rather than raw materials and resources.      There are globalization forces in the world that want places like Africa to be weak and dependent and manipulate both policies in their own countries and within the countries within the African continent.  ...

Why do  they want places like Africa to be weak and dependent?
Isn't Africa weak and dependent anyway?

And what system of politics and distribution would work better or solve the problem?

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Why do  they want places like Africa to be weak and dependent?

   It's rich in natural resources.  It equals $$$.


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Isn't Africa weak and dependent anyway?

  Most countries are, not all.  My point was, for the ones that are, they've been "helped" by outside forces to be that way, though i also said they have their own internal problems and issues too. 


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And what system of politics and distribution would work better or solve the problem?

Repeating self, yet again.  An international politics that says, stay out of these countries except only for helpful purposes and aid, and again with more an emphasis on teaching and educating. 

   This means, stop supporting poaching, stop supporting corrupt leaders or deposing the more positive ones, stop supporting and allowing corporations to go into Africa to plunder their natural resources, etc, etc. Granted, in many ways, this goes more into spirituality than purely politics, and the politics won't change significantly until many more are they themselves more spiritual aka attuned more to PUL. 



  Now your turn to answer some questions.  How will GMO crops solve the food problems of Africa? 

  How safe are GMO foods? 

  How do we keep GMO from spreading into non GMO crops? 

  If GMO crops to date, do not have significantly higher yields than non GMO, then what's the point of choosing these over non GMO?

  Do you think mega corporations like Monsanto have people's best interests at heart, that it actually cares about starving people?  Or to rephrase, do you think it cares more for profit or for people overall? 

   

Personally I don't think genetically modified crops can possibly solve Africa's food problems. Africa has problems that precede its food problem. Africa's food problem is a result of the nature of African people. For instance, if all Africans were somehow given Australian natures, then Africa would soon rectify the problems it has now. And if us Australians were given African natures, then us Australians would very soon have the same problems that Africa has now.
   
But I do think that eventually down the track that genetically modified crops will be a small part of the African solution. But not before Africa's primary problems are faced, addressed and dealt with, by both Africans and others.

Of course there is risk associated with genetically modified crops as there are risks associated with everything - electricity, the motor car, general anaesthetic, vaccinations, and nearly every other technological development - but risks are dealt with as we identify them and progress continues. Such things are always opposed from some quarters.

In coming centuries genetic engineering of plant and animal life, including human life, is likely to become an established mainstream science regardless of present day protests, and risks will be managed and benefits had. That is the pattern of things.

Big persons and big organisations make big beneficial changes, and big mistakes and come up with big solutions. Such is life. Lawful mega-corporations and big business do not bother me. I have no reason to hate them / wish for their destruction, but many reasons to be thankful for a free capitalist system that allows their presence on this planet and that finances welfare systems. Big corporations have their downside, their inconveniences that need to be managed, but again, that is life. I know of no better economic system than a capitalist system with welfare provisions. 

Do I think big business cares more for profit than for people overall?

In many cases the care is more for profit, and in many cases the care is more for people. And that does not overly bother me. I see no reason to wish for the destruction of those with more wealth and power than myself, I see no reason to hate them; I see no reason to thank God (or source) in advance for the crashing down of my society. That would be an unhealthy fantasy of hateful wishful thinking. Hate is the desire to harm others or to see harm done.  

As for western capitalist governments and big business supposedly keeping Africa weak, supporting its corrupt troublesome leaders, supplying Africa with guns, and not supporting Africa's helpful leaders, well, a little discerning research and facing of facts can reveal the truth or not of that.

I am quite aware of the situation in Africa. I could detail much of it if I wanted to, its base causes, manifestations and contributions, all in facts and in their right order from cause to outcome, and logically explain and demonstrate why that is so, but such an effort would serve no purpose here.

Instead I leave it up to those who are interested to research and separate facts from sentiments.
To get started, such questions as these are not difficult to find answers to.

Which weapon is used across Africa for the most killing? Which next weapons are used mostly across Africa?
Where are the weapons in Africa manufactured?
Are the countries of gun manufacture democratic capitalist countries or are they socialist and communist countries? or recently struggling to transition from socialist to democracy and capitalism?
Which countries abstain from voting in the Arms Trade Treaty? Are any of these countries large arms exporters? are they socialist or democratic capitalist? And if they are exporters are they powerful or weak? Are any other countries that do not vote weaker neighbours of these countries? 
To which countries do the ships belong that bring the weapons to Africa? What sort of political systems do those countries have who own those ships? socialist or capitalist?
Where is the overland gun trade route - and which African and other countries does it go through?
What sort of political system do these countries have?
How do Africans pay for the weapons? What do they sell or supply and who do they sell it or supply it to, to get the money to buy the weapons / or to swap it for the weapons? 
Which country's ships transport such African goods?   
Which African leaders have been supported/assisted by capitalist western governments? And how much killing of their populations have those leaders overseen?
Which African leaders have been supported by dictatorships and socialist governments?  And how much killing of their populations have those African leaders overseen?
Which organisations are educating Africans in all manner of society building? in basic education, skills, trades, and professions? (including of course wells and agriculture) And in what countries are most of those organisations based? Are they socialist or capitalist countries?
Who finances most of those aide organisations? Who administrates them. and from which countries, and who works for them in Africa? on both paid and volunteer basis? 
How prevalent are such aide/medical/educational organisations on the ground in Africa? How many such aide/medical/educational organisations and their workers and volunteers come from socialist countries, and how many come from capitalist countries?
And so on...
Collect these overall views, not just a few individual examples of failings, and obtain an overall view of the situation.
I know well the answers to these questions as they are quite basic, and I don't mind the facts of the matter.
Other readers may feel like researching such matters too, and might find that capitalist nations and their big businesses are indeed orchestrating the suffering in Africa, or they might find out something else. Its up to them.
It doesn't take much to see the truth, for those who want to see it. 

  I don't think that it's only Euro, Western, and American forces involved in this, but i emphasized these because that's where many of the readers here come from and also because these areas and countries who should know and do better.

     But of course there are Middle Eastern, Asian (China especially for the poaching problems), Russian, and other areas and countries involved in all this. 

  Greed and corruption, unfortunately, are universal issues and problems.  But we're supposedly the bastions of civilization, of democracy, of "freedom".  If positive change is to happen, shouldn't it start with those countries and areas that are supposedly the most democratic and free, the ones with the professed high ideals? 

  Yet, what have we seen instead.  One of the oldest and largest corporations involved with causing problems in Africa and exploiting natural resources there is De Beers, which is and has been a Euro based company since the 1800's. Yes, the main founder of same, Cecil Rhodes moved to South Africa, but he was from Britain, British at heart and was backed by Euro based banks.

  Not a very good example for the rest of the world. With humans, oft it is, what humans see, humans do. 

Do you understand now why i would "pick on" the Western-American-Euro forces in this? 


   

wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

... Do you understand now why i would "pick on" the Western-American-Euro forces in this?

Justin, you don't just pick on capitalist forces and western establishment; you frequently celebrate its imagined future destruction, and you do so with your god. 

Can you face the real reason why you do this, the internal condition, not the external excuses for it?

1796 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:

wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 1:26pm: ... Do you understand now why i would "pick on" the Western-American-Euro forces in this?       Justin, you don't just pick on capitalist forces and western establishment; you frequently celebrate its imagined future destruction, and you do so with your god.  Can you face the real reason why you do this, the internal condition, not the external excuses for it?

  The "real" reason?   ;D   Do you ever read NDE accounts Crossbow? 

   I've read a great many.  It's interesting that a percentage of these say something similar, that major changes and collapse will happen as a result of natural law, which we could link to collective karma.

   A quick example.  A previously western loving, materialistic, worldly man, named Howard Storm had an NDE.  He was told by Light Beings that major changes were probable, and that they and God were not happy with the way the U.S. was going.  Basically, he was told that if the U.S. didn't change, it would be destroyed, not by them and God but by the immutable Laws of God and our breaking of same.

   Now, here's the "real" reason.  I've always been a sensitive in this life.  Around age 12 i started to get strong inner feelings that something really big was going to happen in my lifetime, something so big it would affect everyone everywhere. 

    This thought and feeling did not come from outside of me.  I had not yet read a single "spiritual" book, and wasn't yet concerned consciously with spirituality, psychism, etc.  And yet that strong inner feeling-knowing persisted.  Nor was i particularly aware of the world and of deeper socio political realities.  When i was 12, i wasn't thinking about globalization, corporate and bank take overs, etc, etc.

   Eventually, i figured out what that persistent feeling-knowing was all about though. 

  As i've grown and matured, i've become more and more aware of and critical of the world and it's practices as regards capitalism, westernization, globalization, etc. 

   So much of it is based on sheer greed, base materialism and selfishness. It causes so much suffering in the world on so many levels.  It has become a cancer in this world.  I did not have these feelings or awareness though when i was 12 and first started receiving information about the Earth changes.   

  However, i've come to learn and appreciate what the Light Beings have told people like Howard Storm, Dannion Brinkley, and others. 

  But you do not listen to others, you have no need for guidance.  You don't ever feel the need to "check" your info and beliefs.  If many NDE' ers, and many higher quality sensitives said the similar things, such as Bob Monroe, Bruce Moen, Edgar Cayce, Rosalind McKnight, etc, etc as well as people i know and deeply respect like Albert and his guidance, that major changes and reckonings are coming to the world, well, you would just shrug and say, they're wrong, i'm right.  Interesting word, "right".  In my country, there is a socio-political group called the "right wing"  I think you might be comfortable with them.  You just can't understand why people like myself would have a problem with the trend and development of corporations, banks, towards the ever more corrupt, powerful, influential, as well as the system itself towards that of well, evil, if we are to be blunt about it.  But how many brain washed people out there call it progress with some bumps?

   There are reasons why such similar messages are getting out in so many different sources.  Heck, even anything goes Nanci Danison got information about it. 

  So, perhaps i'm just making it all up because i'm sick or imbalanced inside, filled with hate towards my fellow man (your rightwing analysis), and solely believe these changes are coming because of my extreme dislike of the western way....   

  Or maybe, i'm just one of the many who have received messages from the guidance levels of consciousness about the probable future that indicate the times are a changing, and the old ways being so filled with error and limitation, need to go completely in order to make way for the new way that is based more in Love?   What a "radical" and extremist concept no?  ;)   

  So how much do i owe you inviting me to sit on your couch? 

  If you had any connection to Yeshua psychically, you would know that everything i've said, he also talks about.  You would know that he looks forward to the collapse of capitalism, materialism, globalization and those forces which are hindering the spiritual transformation of this world.

  As i've said before, maybe a little less classic OBE's (which are a limited way of exploring/learning anyways) and a little more communicating with him would be instructive. 

Gee, that's quite a post Justin.


wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 2:30am:

...there is a socio-political group called the "right wing"  I think you might be comfortable with them. ...  If you had any connection to Yeshua psychically, you would know that everything i've said, he also talks about.  You would know that he looks forward to the collapse of capitalism, materialism, globalization and those forces which are hindering the spiritual transformation of this world. ...

(For any reader who does not know, Yeshua is a particular speak for Jesus.)

All us conservatives/libertarians/right-wingers/materialists/capitalists/big businessmen could be murdered tomorrow and all you would have left would be an oppressive Stalinist state.

Socialism it two tiered, the equalised and above them the equalisers who enforce the equality.

Socialists always fancy they will be amongst the equalisers, not the equalised, because they are elitist hypocrites who really crave power over others.

Look through history. Prior to every socialist revolution there are growing numbers of people foretelling the deaths and destruction of wealthy people by some great strange intervention. Then, in every instance where these "caring, good people" who believe in equality get into power they start their mass murder. They form into two groups, those who do the killing and those who stand about looking innocent and feigning pity for those who have to be killed, and being thankful for the "change for the better".

Look at the Soviet Socialists, the German National Socialists, Mao's socialists, Pol Pot's socialists - they all murdered those on the edges of their socio-economic bell curves, there is no exception to this because mass murder and oppression is innate within the equality/egalitarian mindset (socialist thought). The mindset is sick and when it becomes collective and obtains power it manifests its sick desires onto society. Socialists always even murder all their minority groups whom they seduced to gain the numbers to get into power in the first place. The mindset is hypocritical and delusional.  

A society cannot be compressed into equalisation, only pruned back to equalisation through mass murder and by oppressive power. And then its not equal anyway, because its two tiered, the oppressors who maintain the equality, and the rest whom they keep equal.

The hatred of materialism is the rabid love of materialism in denial.

The hate of other’s having greater wealth is not a virtue; it is just jealousy, a superior self appointment of another kind.   

Jealousy drives hatred, though hatred can also drive itself.

Jealousy often pretends to be love and caring, but its not; it is just craving and hatred combined.

Some people’s caring for one group is just a false front for hatred of another group. This is common amongst those afflicted with equalising mindsets (socialists) as is proved when they get power and murder both groups - the wealthy and the poor who cannot work and the minorities they claimed to care for.

Socialists hate natural bell curves, and in power they have always murdered those on the edges, starting with those in the leading edge and then those in the lower edge. After murdering all the wealthy, Stalin's socialists murdered tens of millions of their own peasants to prune their idealic society into shape and make society "equal".  

As hate by definition is the desire to harm or hurt others or to see them harmed or hurt, then thanking “source/God” in advance for destroying wealthy westerners is by definition just a hateful fantasy combined with an unhealthy spirituality.

“Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.”
Nelson Mandela, about black resentment towards whites.

Leftism is not driven ideologically but psychologically.

   Clearly, the above beliefs are based on both on ideology and psychologically driven.  The beliefs and perceptions i've outlined to you, are based on self and others experience and what guidance has told self and a number of others.  You know, you kind of failed to address pretty much all my specific points, like how a number of NDE's and many high quality psychic source talk about the changes that i also happen to talk about. 

  I'm guessing you are someone that has a certain amount of attachment to material wealth.  Actually, that is patently obvious. 

   Like your views about the ok'ness of mistreating animals for self's material pleasure, your views here are a defense of the little self and ego of same. 

  You profess to be a follower, or at least admirer of Yeshua (Jesus), yes? 

   Perhaps you don't know this, but Yeshua practiced a form of combined socialism and communism, as we might call it today.   How so?    Jesus had no attachment to material wealth whatsoever, and didn't have any personal money to speak of.  Did he ever once ask for any material compensation for his healings, teachings, or the like?

  Some of his disciples, or latter "apostles" though, did have money.  Some of them were even wealthy.  Yeshua told all his main disciples that they needed to pool together their wealth in a common pot.  The money was not for them anymore (they had to give it up for the collective good), but for others they came across who needed material provisions.  The super poor folk in other words, the ones without enough clothes, food to eat, etc

     You can't get any more communistic and socialistic blend than that! 

  However, such practices will only succeed when it's motivated out of inner spirituality and a more pure Love.  Most forms of these that we have seen in the world, were started by people with some attachment to wealth, material power and the like.  Course they were doomed to fail and be mis-used.  It was not motivated out of a more pure Love, as was in the formers case.

   However, Yeshua's form succeeded for awhile, because he himself had no attraction or desire for material wealth or material power, there was no misuse or abuse of the material principles involved.  He also kept his more innately materialistic friends, the disciples/apostles in check. 

   Again, more focus on him and what he actually taught and teaches now, would be helpful to self's spiritual growth.  There is nothing innately wrong with material wealth in and of itself.  It's the attachment to and over focus on same which tends to be so limiting in so many ways. 

   So many of the problems in today's world, is based on a system wherein materialism and greed is put on a pedestal, and corporations and banks as a trend personify this imbalance and destructiveness. 

   We are coming to a time, an unusual cycle wherein all that doesn't work and what is not based on the real aka Love, will be wiped away. 

  This has happened in other human periods.  The times of Noah were similar, and Yeshua spoke of our times-his then future times and compared them to Noahs wherein people would be eating, drinking, and in great merriment and these changes would come upon them as a thief in the night, and they would not be prepared because they had so focused on the material rather than the spiritual. 

   For a more modern perspective, check out the guidance that Monroe received about these changes.  He was told that we were coming to an unusual cycle, a 1 in a million years kind of cycle wherein great crisis and potential would exist side by side. 

   You can continue to believe in what you want to believe because it's convenient for self and self's material appetites and attachments, or you can can start to perceive the deeper truths. 
 

 

Oh well, when all us conservative meat eaters are being murdered by you socialist vegetarians I'll accept my fate.

;D   A wee bit over melodramatic no....   

Not in the least.

For many years I have worked incognito in many leftist fields such as welfare and community health, where my colleagues think I am one of them. They are attracted to gov funded welfare work where they can stand around talking about social issues and pretending they are the caring people.

All day, every day, they are dropping their buzzwords to portray how caring they are, like equality, egalitarian, caring, social justice, disadvantage, patriarchy, non-judgemental, sustainability, diversity, tolerance, etc, etc.

I smile politely and nod my head, for when they find out a male staff member is not a leftist-feminist like them they soon set him up and manipulate him out of the field, labelling him no-suitable, or racist, sexist, hater, etc. So much for their pretending to love diversity - with them its really all about compulsory conformity of thought. Their buzzwords are just false fronts.   

During their discussions about social issues, which are always about inequality, disadvantage and patriarchy (they love those words) I often naively drop in social problems for us to solve together and let them go along towards voicing the end result and underlying desire of their mindset. (For those who don't know, being a leftist feminist is a survival requirement when working in social welfare / community health / counselling and left side education, especially for a white male, who is generally under suspicion of being an imposter until he has proven himself to be a compliant characterless feminist, hater of the patriarchy and believer in leftist social reconstruction) When I pose problems, seemingly naively and by tiny steps, it always comes to the same deathly and murderous final picture, said with either wry humour or with feigned pity, they say such statements as, things wont be better until all the white males are removed from power or forcibly feminised with food additives  / or when the capitalists meet their just deserts / when society has rid itself of the wealthy and the right wingers / when the wealthy have had their wealth re-distributed / hopefully I or at least my daughter will live to see it. And it gets worse when I agree with them and insert a little environmental, food and logistical concerns into the problem solving - sure enough, they always look pitiful and say something like, well there's too many people in the world any way, especially in Africa, so its probably something that has to happen and is for the best (the deaths of millions of Africans, so much for their accusing others of being racists). And at functions with a glass or two of wine in them and tickled into their sick humour, which I am accomplished at doing for them, they invariable drop comments revealing their darkest aspirations, such as giving female hormones to little boys, depriving white males of mental and physical health care, saying the more dinosaur white males kill themselves and the sooner they die off the better, forced removal and destruction of those who have what they want, being wealth and power, and always said in the sick mixture of false pity and wry humour that "caring" socialists always do when in numbers after a few drinks and when they think only other socialists are present. So no, its not over melodramatic. Its quite clear what they desire, and what they will do and what they will allow to happen. And with a little undercover prompting its easy to get them to admit it. And its what they have always done, every time they get collective social power. Mass murder and forced equalisation/oppression is the collective social outcome from the drive of all those individual socialist mindsets. And they always end up turning on each other too because its really about power and position not caring for society. Even Stalin murdered the Bolsheviks and his opposition socialists.   

     Here is a secret.  Just as George Bush Jr is really not a Christian, neither was Stalin really a socialist or the like.  On the surface, it seems to be about ideology, but these are masks for the public.  This is to fool people, to gain popularity or power with the majority, to say what they think people want them to say.  A tool of manipulation.

   Such folks rarely really have any true beliefs beyond power for self.  That's all they really care about, power and money.  And they will use very different and even seemingly opposing masks for the same purpose!   

  Just as Obama is not a socialist, but a man who is an actor and puppet for people who again have no real ideologies beyond self, power, and materialism. 

  We have been fooled, time and time again, and the purpose is to keep us divided and weak, confused and polarized.  Let's fight the battle of left wing vs right wing, while the people with the real power laugh at us because they know how much they have orchestrated such black and white belief systems and camps and could care less about the issues and arguments we have.   

  Both sides are manipulated and fooled, the majority of people, whether they identify with this or that have bought into the lie.

  Here is where we differ, apparently majorly.  I find that most people that i meet, the average common person, whether or not they identify with the left or right, tend to be decent hearted people who are trying their best with what they know and the awareness they have.  Yes, they have their dark sides and their lacks, but i don't focus on that, because if i did, i would go insane or at least become severely depressed by the sheer amount of darkness in humanity in general as a collective total.

   The people that i talk about in a more extreme way, are very rare and i've never even met one in person.  They are not the average folk you have conversations with.  They are the 1% of the 1% so to speak.  They have immense, simply immense wealth that most of us cannot even begin to fathom, and they are pathological about gaining ever more power, influence and wealth.  They truly have sold their souls to Baal and Mammon. 

   It is only these, that i wish to see taken out of power.  But, even if i had the power to do so, i would not personally harm them or take them out of the equation.  That is for God and the purely Creative Forces intune with same to handle.  Or for karma, and karma or like attracts and begets like always comes around sooner or later.

  Meanwhile, i speak not from ideologies, wants, wishes, or the like, but from guidance given to me by expanded guidance including the Teacher of teachers.  My life and beliefs are most based on his life and example, and he is ever my compass and my standard.   

    The facts that i bring up, which is clearly in the NT, and how he practiced and advocated a spiritualized form and blend of what we might call socialism and communism as regard material resources, you conveniently do not address or even acknowledge.  For, if you did, you might have a belief system crash.  Easier to ignore and gloss over.

  All that dislike, all that angst, and intolerance to those horrible "socialists", leftists, etc, would have no where to go.   

  What i see in those people you described, is this.  They start off with higher ideals than the average, want to create positive change in the world, but once they been in the system for awhile, and they experience first hand how broken, how corrupt, and see and feel so much darkness and suffering, well only the strongest can resist being resonated or corrupted by some of that darkness themselves (and most people in general are not that strong and spiritually centered).  More over, a lot of them, feel a lot of anger and powerlessness at their inability to really change things for the better.  Some start to get twisted and cynical.  Dark sarcasm and the like becomes their way of venting and gaining a sense of power and control. 

   My wife is a teacher and i've met some of her older teacher friends--i've seen that bitterness and cynicism--none of them start off that way though.  I have a good friend who is a social worker and psychological counselor.   It is perhaps one of the most stress filled and depressing jobs imaginable, and again, it takes a very strong, centered, and mature Soul to keep self inviolate. 

  I have compassion for such people.  I have compassion for the "right wingers" as well, because i realize they are often heavily brain washed and conditioned (often starting as a young child in the home).  Any person so attached to a particular group, belief system, and societal ideology is brain washed, or as the Monroe/Moen crowd likes to say, stuck in limited, narrow belief systems.

  Have you taken the logs out of your own eyes that you can so extremely and negatively judge your fellow co workers and so regulate and pigeon hole them to being such horrible, hate filled human beings?  Do you see the pain, the desperation, the stress, the feelings of helplessness behind those limited and destructive thoughts and feelings? 

  In short, you have a long, long way to go before you start to see through the eyes of Him, whom you profess to believe in and care about. 

  A first step would be to study and focus on his life.  Even, and especially, his views and practice toward the material fruits of the earth o' owner of the olive groves. Or his rebukes to the material, political, and religious powers of his day. 

  And ask yourself this, if Jesus was here today, whom do you think he would tend to side with more as a trend, the more hard core and extremist liberals and leftists or the more hardcore right wingers, conservatives, etc.? 

He would find lack in both surely, but his ideals, his ways, and practices very clearly do come closer to the former more than the latter.  You know, free social work, free community work, pooling of individuals' resources for the collective, free healing, telling people to give up their attachment to wealth and power, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. 

  How can you think his truths and teachings belong or apply any less in our day than in his day?

  Hey, maybe Jesus is one of your despised enemies too?

::)

  Sigh  (written partially while sipping on a glass of red wine  :o )


p.s. if my words seem overly strong, it is because i'm speaking to one who professes to be a follower of Yeshua Ben Yosef, and yet refuses to see where they and he clearly disagree.  Just as Yeshua had little patience and tolerance for the hypocritical Pharisees, Sadducees and spoke strongly to same, do i have little patience and tolerance for hypocritical Christians who preach differently than he taught and exampled.
   

   

a channel,

what do you do to earn a living?

  Currently work part time as an in home aid to an individual who has some disabilities.  Because of Obama Care, my hours got slashed--use to be able to work 39 hrs.

  Why do you ask Mandy?

There are several sorts of wanking:

Physical wanking which everyone is aware of and does minimal harm.

And there is various sorts of emotional wanking which carries delusion with it, such as spiritual, cultural, social, ethical, moral etc wanking.

It is all self indulgent feel-good fantasy, and not the real thing.

It is important that we are aware of the existence of emotional deluded wanking and can identify it, so that we can make sure to avoid it - because it effects our mind. It fortifies delusions.

Notice it, observe it, study it, in others and in our selves.

Get to know it and recognise it; how it starts, how it is fed, and where it leads to.

The cure is to be ordinary, and to accept things as they are.

  This has been an interesting lesson in projection, and evasion of addressing another's holistically logical points during a disagreement. 

  When two parties have a discussion wherein they disagree on some topics or points, isn't it interesting how often when one party cannot logically refute the other's points, it then becomes completely about the person they are disagreeing with and how lacking or negative they are, however subtly and indirectly it's put.  It's a type of distraction from the logical points made and personal defense of ones beliefs.  It's a kind of minimizing and character assassination.  Misdirection and half truths, the essence of propaganda and manipulation. 

   You often see these kind of tactics and behaviors in certain groups with certain ideologies, such as say, Fox News. 

    Humble is not a word i generally associate self with--certainly, i could use more of it as the world counts and considers humility. 
  However, i do have enough humility to check my beliefs and convictions.  How i do so, is usually two fold.  One, i go within and appeal to and ask for help and wisdom from those who are more aware, wise, and intune than this little self. 

  Another is to look at a collective pool of generally respected sources who also do similar, or were given info from beings or levels more expanded than themselves. Particularly interesting are those sources, such as NDE's, which often involve no conscious prior belief systems related to the information received and wherein there is so little connection with the body so that self can expand quite a bit beyond what humans generally do while very connected with the body, whether classic OBE'ing, meditating, etc.   

  When research into that collective pool, shows certain strong and repeating patterns and trends, certain "agreements" and similarities of particular info, AND at the same time matches what one gets from going within...  Then self may perhaps be dealing with that elusive concept called "truth" in a bigger picture kind of way. 

   Well, thank Source for at least that much humility--without it, one would be much more blind and believing in what one wants to believe in as convenient for self or influenced by various fears, materially based attachments, etc. which are so common and strong in most people.  Truly, the truth does set one free when perceived, accepted, and lived. 

  Set self free, communicate directly with Him, the one who made you and i.  Accept no less, not even one's "Higher self" is yet as aware as He, because there are few higher selves of us in humans who are as expanded as Him. 

   After you talk with Him, then we can talk about how deluded or not, this in many ways ordinary and yet in some ways a bit different, Justin is with his various pronouncements, his talk of earth changes, of the necessity for a leveling to occur, and reality of dark forces both in-human and non human which seek to keep humanity stuck, limited, and suffering and who are good at their work.

 

   

   

Charity and sharing are of freewill and voluntary; socialism is not, it is enforced equalisation.

Everyone knows that, but socialists perform great contortions in their effort to avoid that distinction.

See the running examples above.

And I expect more will follow. For socialists are so convinced that they know what is best for others that they just can't stop themselves dictating how other people should live, think and speak, and how society needs to be equalised - envisaged with themselves in the new elite positions, of course.

  If you're implying that politically, i'm a "socialist" you are really off. I don't belong to, or label myself according to any group based on any ideology.  I didn't vote for Obama in either election either btw--saw through him from the get go.

  But i do see a time, after the coming collapse, wherein people will begin to see the wisdom of choosing of their own freewill, to share more freely in a collective sense.  This collapse will be a big wake up call for many, as to what's really important.  Not image, not money, not material power and influence, not technology, but helping one another, sharing, kindness, communal work, nature and environmental concerns, prayer, meditation, spiritual attunement.  Eventually these focuses will become the main ones.  Not something legally or politically enforced by fellow humans, but a natural reaction or development in relation to having all that is unimportant suddenly being taken out of the equation. 

   It has the potential, to eventually facilitate a collective/group Christ Consciousness within a rather short time period as humans go (some thousand years or so)--as Bob Monroe and others have been shown (Howard Storm was shown something similar). This is why i had a dream wherein i knew that Yeshua wanted these changes to happen so he could fulfill the spiritual transformation of this world.  Dreams are not created by our conscious, personality minds, but often dreams like these are messages from Higher self and/or the Creative, Universal Forces.

  As the old saying goes, you can't put new wine into an old wine skin.  There is MUCH in this world that is limited and limiting in it's very nature.  That needs to be taken out for the former to arise more fully. It is the old wine skin par excellence.   

  Clearly, you do not heed his words, "As in the days of Noah, will the coming of the Son of Man be like...."   "Wars, and rumors of wars... earthquakes in diver places...signs in the Sun, Moon, and Stars..."  (we will see these many earthquakes in diverse places soon)

  This is not being done by a political group of human socialists, but by the Laws of Source in combination with nature's cycles and the Will of the Creative Forces.   

   You keep trying to make this about politics and government, when it has nothing to do with politics or government.   

  But i will point out again his life.  Jesus said to his potential disciples, if you are to follow me, than you must give up your earthly lives, give up your attachments, your wealth, etc.  This was not a, well maybe you have to, or should, but a demand.  There was still freewill and choice involved--they didn't have to become his disciples, but if they wanted to there was no disagreement to be brooked. 

    Was Jesus a socialist or communist as the world counts same?   Could we put him, or his true followers, into such little narrow boxes? 

   Why do you keep trying to distort these messages back to the political, earthly, and governmental in nature?  It is and has been very clear that this messenger has not been speaking from a political stance or motivation, except to say that current politics need to be more informed by that which is Christ like in nature.    It's not about a specific party or earthly ideology.

  You addressed my thread, my posts, disagreed with these, but instead of making it about what i was talking about, you keep making it about your political agenda and personal hangups and prejudices. 

  You also have extremist views towards your fellow humans, and over generalize and in blanketed way judge all people who identify with a certain label.  Surely not all people who identify as being socialist are all evil people who are going to murder conservatives once they get the chance. 



 
 

Oh yeah! Oh no! Allright now! ;D
http://goo.gl/RwE94E

wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 2:29pm:

Oh yeah! Oh no! Allright now! ;D http://goo.gl/RwE94E

Hah, i see your Heretic, don't try to change me or my ways, and i will raise you one. 

  The following is what i see/think when i see folks so individualistic, and so focused on the little self and self's rights, wants, etc.  The little ones who have much to learn. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0-KZS1dDyw

  "Whateva, i do what i want".  Also maybe the battle cry of hard core right wing conservative types, just saying, since we can't seem to get away from extremist over generalizing and focusing on political ideologies on this thread...

You rabbit on across the forum about how capitalism needs to be wiped off the planet so your fanciful communal society can exist. And like all socialists when others dispute your desire to exterminate capitalism you claim you're not being political, you're being spiritual/humanist/caring, blah blah wank wank.

I notice in your biblical quotes above of Jesus' warnings about future events that you put dotted lines and left out the parts where Jesus warned about false prophets and people coming in his name who deceive many and spread rumours of wars. You left those parts out because you knew damn well they read like they are referring to people like you. You also left out the part where he said not to be troubled for these things come to pass. And you left out where he said no one knows the day or hour of such things, not the son nor the angels in heaven but only God the Father. People can look it up for themselves, its in Matthew chapter 24.  

If I followed your "spiritual" advice, if I considered you "a channel" (ie. a prophet), then you would not have a problem with me, would you?

You would be quite comfortable with that.

Justin, Cartman in the video depicts a Jerry Springer type guest for whom "I" could very well spell the body. Couple that with "I do what I want" and Jerry has got a show on his hands.

Comparing the guest and a random stranger - "I do what I want" can not only be different but even wildly different.

1796 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 1:43am:

You rabbit on across the forum about how capitalism needs to be wiped off the planet so your fanciful communal society can exist. And like all socialists when others dispute your desire to exterminate capitalism you claim you're not being political, you're being spiritual/humanist/caring, blah blah wank wank. I notice in your biblical quotes above of Jesus' warnings about future events that you put dotted lines and left out the parts where Jesus warned about false prophets and people coming in his name who deceive many and spread rumours of wars. You left those parts out because you knew damn well they read like they are referring to people like you. You also left out the part where he said not to be troubled for these things come to pass. And you left out where he said no one knows the day or hour of such things, not the son nor the angels in heaven but only God the Father. People can look it up for themselves, its in Matthew chapter 24.

  Ooh, bringing out the big guns!  The truth of your feelings and thoughts of me finally coming out, which is interesting, because when you re-signed up/changed your name, you p.m.'d hey old friend, pretending to be interested in talking to me on a personal level--saying things like it would be interesting meeting Albert and i, you sensed past life connections, etc.

  How quickly things change eh.  Or, maybe self was being fake and insincere to begin with?

   Re: the changes, well i DON'T know the exact hour or day, and haven't claimed to.  However, i've been receiving info about the changes in some form or manner for a couple of decades plus. 

  It's only been in the last few months or so, that the nature of the messages and tone of same, have changed for both my wife and i.  Never before have we been told "soon, get prepared".  My wife alone has had 3 or 4 dreams within the last few months dealing with the changes and the theme that it's coming soon and we need to more fully prepared.  One of those dreams came before i became aware of Dr. Paul LaViolette talking about the G2 cloud--Galactic Core interaction and possible coming galactic superwave.  Neither of us were consciously aware of the G2 cloud at that point.

    During a meditation a few weeks or so ago, after having experienced a lot of Love and expanded Consciousness, and after asking, "please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most spiritually helpful for me or the whole to become aware of now", i was told something like this towards the end of the meditation when i wasn't expecting same, "We have a message to give you, the changes are coming soon, get prepared."  I asked how soon, "Within months."  (meaning less than a year)

  The way that time works, is that the closer one comes to a probable, major, collective event or string of same, the probabilities and timing becomes more and more probable and structured.  2000 years away, well it can be mighty hard to pinpoint exact dates or even a closer range because A LOT can happen and change in 2000 years potentially with probable future.  If we are only months away, then i still can't pin point exact hour and days, but a range can still be given. 

   Why should people be troubled about these things?  If one knows death is an illusion, if one has faith in the higher powers, if one is intuitive and can be led to what to do at the right time, etc, then there is no need for much worry or fear regarding these.  It's not the "end of the world" or anything as fatalistic like that, just a collapse of the current civilization and structure--something that has happened many times before. 

  But, it would be wise for people to prepare some both physically, and especially emotionally, mentally, and spiritually.   One can prepare without being troubled in the sense of being filled with fear.  I don't walk out in front of fast moving buses not because i'm filled with fear, but because i'm pragmatic and know that 1+1 in this world = 2.  Pragmatic caution or awareness in other words. 


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If I followed your "spiritual" advice, if I considered you "a channel" (ie. a prophet), then you would not have a problem with me, would you? You would be quite comfortable with that.

   As i've already mentioned, i would prefer you to communicate specifically and directly with Yeshua re: such issues.  That's my deepest desire and i'm trying to act as a catalyst for people to turn to him.  If i have a role to play right now, than it's akin to the baptist's role of trying to turn people to him and herald his coming (which is more complex and multi faceted this time around). 

   Maybe i am a false prophet--i certainly can't convince you or others i'm not no matter what i say, do, etc.  A good way to figure this out, beyond one's preconceptions, is to do a good deep, expanded meditation with the intent of communicating only with Yeshua and Source and ask these.  Or, one can wait and either something major happens within months, or not. 

   I have not claimed to be perfect, or truly enlightened like him, but i do sometimes get messages from him to give to others.  Others are capable of getting info directly from him, but how often do they even try to do that?  How often do they become infatuated with lesser ways (OBE's, etc) or teachers (helpers, guides, whatever you call em)?   All too often.