Hi Bruce

I read a little through your site afterlife-knowledge

I wish to ask- How sure are you that you are actually visiting the afterlife realms presuming there is such a place?

I myself have had an OOBE where I become one with the universe in some sort of eternal Light Realm... All there was, was Light and I was spontaneously united with it along with an overwhelming sense of Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresent a true Cosmic Consciousness experience.

Although I have some sort of strong inclination that there is more especially after that experience, my thinking has been somewhat inclined to think that perhaps some of the explanations scientists give regarding these types of experiences could in fact be valid and that people are merely having either a lack of oxygen to the brain or some other such thing..

So How sure are you that you are genuinely going out of body? How sure are you its not just flights of fancy? Or a strong imagination? Or maybe just a lucid dream?

Hello:

If you remember what you understood during the experience you described, does the scientific explanation apply?

When I recall my first experience of a realm of light, I was quite certain I was experiencing what my existence is really about.  I understood that my life in this World "isn't" what it is about.

Since the experience I spoke of took place I have had numerous spiritual experiences of varying degrees and have communicated with spirit beings many times, and if a scientist had the same or similar experiences, there is no way he or she would conclude that nothing more than brain activity took place.

Some scientists make the mistake of believing that nothing more than brain activity takes place partly because of how their belief system limits their ability to consider otherwise (so much for the so-called scientific method), and partly because you can see brain activity take place when a person has a spiritual experience. You can also see brain activity take place when one looks at the Sun. Does this mean that the Sun doesn't exist? Of course not.

I'd like to add that on a number of occasions I've received information from spirit beings that I didn't know about and I was able to confirm such information later. I believe Bruce would say the same about confirming information he found out about in a non-physical way.

Albert

Warpz,

I do not go "out of body."  Spent a very long time attempting to learn that technique with almost no success.

For me ordinary dreaming, lucid dreaming, imagination, out of body, these are all just different perspectives from which to observe and interact within "nonphysical" realities.

The nearest I have been able to prove to myself (and no one else) that I am indeed observing and interacting with an afterlife area of nonphysical reality is to use this Basic Premise:

1. Find a way to make contact and communicate with a person known to be deceased.
2. Obtain information from this person there is absolutely no way of knowing except via this communication.
3. Attempt the verify whether or not the information accurate and true.
4. IF the information is verified I have gathered evidence that this deceased person continues to exist, somewhere.  We can call that "somewhere" our afterlife.
5. Continue this process until I have enough verified evidence to accept the afterlife is a reality.

Until scientists are willing to actually explore this question through their own direct experience they will make little if any progress toward eliminating the beliefs they hold that block their perception.

None of the "scientific" lack of oxygen type arguments can explain the thousands of people who are sitting in chairs, wide awake, who routinely succeed with the Basic Premise approach during my workshops.

Going back to your last question:  It doesn't matter whether the Basic Premise is fulfilled using ordinary dreams, flights of fancy, imagination, lucid dreams, OBE or other methods.  The information gathered is either verified or it is not.

Bruce