Hello everyone

It's me again Om Brzee Namaha, lately i've been asking and praying to my higher self, Helpers and Jesus Christ to help me remove and delete the faked dream characters, dream creatures and dream aliens who pretended to be the real souls in my dream or in the non physical world. I knew that dream characters could pretend to be the real souls and could give you the wrong answer, anyway back to my story that i would like to share with all of you loving people. This month and last month i've been doing the mantra retrieval physically, i would chant my make up mantra, "Om, healing helpers please guide me to the stuck soul, stuck soul if you could hear me please go to the light" and sometime i would pretend to chant out to the stuck soul although i couldn't see or hear them, i would chant out something like this, "if you are confused, if the people in this world kept on ignoring please look for the light, go to the light", "if you find yourself teleport from one place to one place and when you tried to talk to the people and they kept on ignoring you, i recommend that you should look for the light and go to the light, i can not hear you or see you now but i can see you and hear you in the non physical world or in my dream, do not be afraid, please look for the light and go to the light, if the people in this world kept on ignoring you, look for the light and go to the light". I kept on saying this mantra over and over again while i was holding my mala beads in my right hand, i would finish my mantra retrieval when i reached the guru head. Some nights i would use my waiting technique lucid dream or out of body experience to tried to confirm with the real souls in my dream or in the non physical world that my mantra retrieval is working, 2 weeks ago, i had a lucid dream i asked the dream guys in my dream, i assumed that these dream characters must be the real souls, because i did pray and ask the helpers, my higher self and Jesus Christ everyday to help me remove and delete the dream characters in my dream or in the non physical world, I didn't want the faked dream characters who pretended to be real souls, anyway i asked one of the dream guy about my mantra retrieval, i said, "you know about my mantra retrieval, is it working?" or "is my mantra retrieval working?", the dream guy looked confused as if he didn't know what i was talking about :(, he didn't even understand my question! i wasn't sure if i've got the right answer so i went and asked the next dream character, "is my mantra retrieval working?", again this dream guy looked confused as if he didn't understand what i was talking about :(! I felt that i failed with this mantra retrieval :(.....

I wasn't sure if i've got the correct answer I've got another lucid dream and i went around and asked each one of the dream people, i said, "is my mantra retrieval working?", 2 dream guys said yes while the other two said no, I was completely lost and confused, i didn't know what was the real answer, I didn't want to waste my time doing something that didn't work especially my mantra retrieval, according to my belief if the ghosts could hear and see you then my mantra retrieval should work and here these dream guys or real souls gave me some random answer like this, (I am very disappointed :(, I think this proof that my mantra retrieval has failed :(.

I wasn't sure if i've got the right answer so i decided to go to the non physical world and hopefully i would meet the real souls who would give me the correct answer! not just some pretenders!
last week, i decided to use my out of body experience to confirm with the real souls that my mantra retrieval was working alright, i went to the non physical world and met two dream guys, i asked the first guy and he said, "yes", i wasn't sure if i've got it right this time because last time some of the dream guys said yes while some of them said no, I asked the next dream guy, he didn't say anything, he didn't even look at me, i think he's ignoring me.....(big SIGH!)... sometime i dont't feel like i want to do this mantra retrieval anymore, i just wanted to use something simple and quick to do the retrieval and i found that this mantra retrieval was the best option, I just wanted to help out while i was physically alive,i didn't want to use my lucid dream or out of body experience to do retrieval, i've got other important stuff to do there.

Anyway if anyone got any comments please reply
Thank you for reading.

I think you are worrying too much. If you want to help anyone, here or hereafter, make your heart an oasis of peace. Worrying about what is "real" or not "real" in your dreams or meditations is not helpful. Peace is real. Love is real. That is all that matters.

Hi Om,

Other people also got important stuff to do, and being aware that you can say the same thing with fewer words is a start. Being precise.

I agree with seagull that worry won't do you any good, but do think that getting to know the difference between temporary astral thought forms and beings in varying states of awareness makes a difference. Also that it's important to get to know what area in the astral or beyond you are exploring. Robert Monroe used so-called focus levels as a way of identifying areas.

http://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/focus.html

Once you are in a lucid dream or somewhere non-physical, what happens if you start using intent to go somewhere else?

If mantra retrieval doesn't work for you, then it doesn't work for you. Then again that doesn't mean retrieval doesn't work. Does it mean that your fixed idea of how it should work doesn't work? Asking for confirmation from what could be astral thought forms or dazed people in the astral (focus 22) is a dead-end in my book.

You do something, and you find out if it works or not by trial and error. Most people need practice to get better at whatever they do.

You already seem to have goals, and now it takes patience and practice?

Hello Om:

First of all, it's good to read that you want to help out.  Regarding verifications, at first I wondered if I was actually doing retrievals. Then I received some information that confirmed that I was.

Here's a short summary of how things worked for me.  I would be meditating and would see an image of a person that seemed to need help. I'd think of helping this person and before I knew it I'd find myself in some retrieval situation. I wondered if this was just my imagination.

One day while meditating I asked for a confirmation that I was actually helping stuck spirits.  I was shown the cover of Robert Monroe’s book “Far Journeys,” I had yet to read it.  The pages opened to—I felt page 144 and saw page 145.  Afterwards I obtained the book and opened it to page 144.  This is the first page of a chapter called “Rescue Mission.” I think this is the first time Robert wrote about doing retrievals.  I felt the first page rather than saw it because the first page of each chapter of Far Journeys isn’t written.  The second page of each chapter is written, and as a result I saw page 145.

It is hard for me to believe that the above experience was simply a matter of my imagination, because I felt and saw pages I had never seen before. 

I’ve done a lot of retrievals and I hardly ever receive information about the people I helped that I can confirm later. Why not? Because such verification isn’t necessary once you find out that you are actually helping out.  You would create a problem for the spirit helpers you work with if they had to provide you with information you can verify on a regular basis. There is also the factor of how quite often such information can’t be provided.

When it comes to dreams, don’t underestimate the information that can be received from them.  I’ve analyzed thousands of my dreams and have found that in many cases messages are sent to me in such a way.  Some form of symbolism tends to be needed, and sometimes this symbolism might come in the form of what you refer to as “fake dream characters.”

It is also important to note that some people help with retrievals while asleep without knowing that they do so.  A dream might be a way of letting them know.

I don’t know what you mean by using a mantra.  I’ve never heard of anyone using a mantra while doing a retrieval. Take care to not use a method that isn’t necessary and might interfere.

Albert