Hello

Here’s a true psi experience. I’ll document it by sending copies of the involved dated e-mails to a friend or two. Deny this, sceptics! (-8

A few months ago I had a sense of having a conversation as I awoke. In it a stranger told me his avatar name for another site and we discussed his involvement with psi. I know the memory was auditory (and not based upon something I read) because he sort of chuckled when he laughed.

Last week I finally got up my nerve to check out the experience. (Thanks Vicky and Bardol, for bringing up the reminder that we have to keep practicing and expanding these senses.) So with google’s help I found his email, wrote him about the conversation, described his laugh, and asked him if his avatar name on a certain site was ----.

He wrote back and said that had been his avatar name but he remembers no such conversation. Unfortunately he didn’t describe his own laugh but maybe he is suspicious and doesn’t want to encourage invasion of his privacy --even though he has written extensively about various psi phenomena, is he a doubter? (-:

So I wrote back and asked him how I would know his avatar name if he hadn’t given it to me in some psychic connection.  He hasn’t answered that one but he doesn’t have to.  He's already confirmed we had some sort of communication by admitting he used that name. (-:

This is my first known contact with a stranger where PUL was not involved. I’m thinking our shared interest, even love of, the field of psi / afterlife knowledge put us into contact with each other.

We’ve remarked here on this site about those snippets of conversations we hear as we awake, right? This confirms for me that those can be real communication with other entities.

Also I might add:
The website to which the man referred was previously unknown to me. He said I should go there because it was an interesting social experiment. His name there was made of full words that get pages and pages of other references in a google search, not a name that can be found through Google, which is my only search means.
And I found a photo of this person and looking at it made my third eye area snap, like to attention or to focus.

If you point out other ways the conversation with the avatar name could have happened, I’ll provide any other details that might pertain.

Bets,
I have no doubts that what you experienced is real. What mechanism is involved I cannot say, except that it is clearly non-physical. Interesting that he was not thrilled by your revelation!

Woops,
apologies for the L put on your name, Bardo. I must have been thinking of an exclamation point (-:

  Why care what the "skeptics" think anyways? 

  In any case, cool experience and sounds quite "non physical" oriented, whatever physical and not physical means--i'm not sure anymore myself. 

<<Why care what the "skeptics" think anyways?>>

Well, that's interesting!  What about the skeptics who don't accept the official, governmental explanation of various events?  Should we not care about what they think?

It all boils down to our own belief systems. If a skeptic says something that is in line with our belief system, then we no doubt would agree with his/her skepticism.

On the other hand, if what is said is contrary to our belief system, then we would probably say "who cares" and dismiss their skepticism.

Belief systems are mighty powerful things.  All the evidence in the world usually won't loosen our grip on our beliefs, but when it does the crash is pretty traumatic, as Bruce has pointed out several times.

R

Thanks for sharing. This is important because it shows the value of following what our individual "talents" are. You receive informationthat uniqule attracts you (Greek keys!). Learning to interpret our own stuff is important.

Makes one wonder what we get and miss because the connection isnot clear.

Bets!

This is a remarkable experience. Do you recall if you did anything differently, as you were moving from the sleep state into consciousness, that could have enabled you to remember enough of the encounter to pique your interest to do a web search?

Ginny 

Hey Buddy. I believe you! After all, this is Bruce's imagination forum. With Much Understanding. Lars

Thank you for your interest!

Ginny, I’ve done a web search since then to try to find the avatar name connected to the person, but cannot find it.  Is that what you mean?

The conversational tone of his when he was talking about the website that was 'a good social experiment' -- that and his laugh are not things I could have read on a website previous to the waking conversation, right?

I suppose making contact with a stranger isn’t surprising since it happens as we retrieve, etc.  I’m just surprised I could carry on a conversation with a stranger in that way.

I wish you all would share or re-share some of your ‘waking conversations’ too. I know we’ve commented on such before, like with a recently passed relative etc.

Sorry I didn’t respond sooner, Ginny. I didn’t receive the usual notices that anyone had posted.

Bets

LUcy said: "Makes one wonder what we get and miss because the connection isnot clear.”

Exactly!  This is exactly what hit me too, Lucy! If we knew to watch for these, perhaps we could become conscious of these contacts earlier in the conversations. Teach ourselves to answer the psi-‘phone’ just before they begin. (I think I’ll call them “psiphonic conversations (-:).

I have heard a bell before getting some sort of contact but not for several years. Makes me wish I’d kept a journal so I could remember what kind of contact it was.

From a research point of view it maybe makes a difference as to whether the universe is feeding us information through the guise of a conversation, or whether we’re actually con-vers-ing with another being, having a back and forth exchange. So much study speaks of only one person being the receiver OR the sender. This fellow had a personality, it wasn’t just words.

Bets

(Oh, and he hasn’t contacted me again.)

Bets,

When something similar happened to me a few months back I've been wondering ever since what it was, or what was different about that encounter, that could have helped me to recall it like I did. It happened so quickly and often with me it can take awhile for me to realize the nuts and bolts of non-physical experiences, the left brain stuff.

In any case, what has come to me so far is that I think I woke up in the dream (lucid dreaming), primarily because of my cousin's overwhelming, energetic presence...and because the skills I've been learning, to engage with others in the non-physical, worked as well (feeling, sensing, knowing). Any of this make sense?  :o:) I'm just wondering this through, curious. Sometimes I don't put into words very well what I'm thinking.

Also, as I understand you, you encountered someone in the dream state that you had not previously known in the physical...and that person gave you information you could not have previously known, personal information you were able to later verify as fact in the physical?! Bets, isn't this the kind of proof Bruce talks about?

Ginny   

Yes. Yes. And yes. (-: 
It does for me anyway.

Going back to your first comment, Ginny, do you think your cousin’s presence might have become overwhelming and energetic because the experience slid from being a lucid dream to a more direct psi encounter?  You had the intent, same as what's used to encounter others during retrievals, so maybe that works to get these conversational encounters going.

Have you checked with your cousin to see what memory (s)he might have of such a conversation? Or even whether the ‘dream’s’ topic has come to mind at all? Apparently whether the other person remembers such a conversation or not isn’t proof. We must have aspects or perhaps a Higher Self that is able to get out and around while our conscious mind sleeps. Anyway that’s what 'makes sense’ to me now.

Bets

Hello again,

I’m losing my nerve to contact persons that might have talked with me through the afterlife energies. However,
a few mornings ago I awoke in the midst of a friendly visit with someone I think I’ve met through the ether before. This person does not sign in here but they might surf through occasionally. I glimpsed them in their more idealized form (younger etc) just as I exclaimed “Are you a muslim?” That was a conversational stopper and the shock of my out-of-place question abruptly awoke me.

If any reader remembers hearing such words as they awoke around May 4th, I’m happy to confirm my end of the conversation. Guess I just did.

Bets

Bets,
You can visit me in the non-physical anytime! I will keep an eye out for you. I have called on friends from this and other sites occasionally to help me in prayer for another person, and in one case for some help that I needed for myself. I have never gotten any confirmation that they remember having been there, but have wondered about it.

Hey Bets I believe you.  You all know me and how weird my experiences can be!  I say it's ok to work with what you get and it'll open you up for more.  It all starts somewhere.  I think we get little nudges all the time of experiences put in our way to wake us up to take notice.  Most people just brush it off and call it coincidence. 

Psi meaning the paranormal or scientific experiments regarding the paranormal? I've always looked at lucid dreaming as falling into that category, as well as Phasing, OOBEs, mental telepathy and so on. What do you mean by a psi encounter? Just want to be on the same page :)....

I don't believe there's a difference between your 'in-dreaming encounter' and say a retrieval, or a phasing exploration, or a psychic communication or healing while in the physical...with the exception of perhaps the mechanics of how it was achieved or experienced. There are so many ways of going about it... and wow you nailed it, Bets.

My cousin's visit was around the time he had a fatal heart attack, like give or take an hour. I didn't know until I received an email the following day from a family member of his passing away. It blew my socks off.

Isn't this fun Bets!? :D

Ginny

Yes, it is fun!

‘Psi' isn’t my favorite word but yes, it does seem to cover all of what we talk about here and lets science in the door too.  Sometimes it’s hard to make new terms using ‘afterlife’ for all these ‘afterlifish' experiences. I tried ‘psi-phonic’ for the phone-call-like conversations but ‘phonic’ has too many meanings.

Thanks Vicky and Bardo! (-:

Ginny, did your cousin refer to his own passing during your contact with him? I think you posted about this, but just as an update. If you were conversing back and forth then that breaks down the old Receiver/Sender categories.

We have so much to experience if we’ll just give ourselves permission! Or even get the intent.

Hi Rondele and a channel,

So a skeptic is probably anyone whose belief system territory doesn’t exactly match your own, even just along an edge or so. It seems hard to get an exact match. Wording in our discussions of the unmatched edges is so difficult.

To avoid BSTs it seems we’d have to chop wood, carry water all morning and meditate in gratitude  the rest of the time.All without thinking about anything.

So I’m not really worried about skeptics any more, a channel. That was just a conversational ploy (-:

Thanks KarmaLars!

Bets

Hi Bets,

My cousin was only 61 when he passed and I hadn't spoken with him for many years. The visit lasted for only a few seconds and we didn't have a back 'n forth conversation, he never spoke words or said anything in the way we verbally communicate in the physical.

When I snapped to consciousness the first thought to run through my mind was like, uh oh--someone has died. It was a knowing/feeling/absolute, the same kind of knowings that we get via afterlife experiences. The best way to describe it is what Bob Monroe initially called a rote, a bundle of info given to him all at once.

What I find so cool about your experience is that it happened with a stranger in real time. Have you been able to find his avatar on the internet again? You'd think there'd be a history of him at the social website he was referring to.

Ya think you scared the holy bazooka out of him when you made email contact!? ;D


Ginny

Thanks Bets!

Hi

Do coincidences point to any truths beyond the physical? Here’s one--
I was trying to catch up on my reading here at Bruce’s and followed another thread’s link to another site. After reading the feature article I surfed around from it and found an unindexed article about the same person I reported that I met and talked to while in psi, the subject of this thread.
Small world, eh?

Bets

I wonder what in your vibes is attracting you to each other?  : )

Hi

It’s awkward to speak about a real person for fear of violating their privacy. But I can’t guess about these contacts anyway because previously I never knew this person existed. Everything I’ve found has been through Google, just can’t find his site-name given out.
I love the mystery of not knowing (-:

I've had several psychic contacts with people on this site over the years.  And some have had them with me.  It's fun when things can be confirmed by the other person.  I think it just has to do with minds being in the same place, focused on the same areas and topics, especially as we share and talk here and find people we align with in certain ways.  We just naturally get drawn to each other or to the same topics.  I don't think they're coincidences if on some level both parties are doing the conscious work.  Usually there's a reason people are aligned, even if they don't know what it is.  I guess we're always helping and influencing others even if we aren't necessarily trying to.