I just returned from a Methodist workshop in southern Washington state.  I was asked to pray for Kathy's friend, Elaine, who is in her 9th year battling ovarian cancer (stage 3 and spreading, chemo, etc.).  Elaine goes to Spokane for more tests next week, so hopefully there is improvement or, better, complete healing.  Elaine is a high school teacher and her husband Rick is a highschool principal.  Elaine and Rick shared these two ADCs with me.

Elaine's niece, Tami H, had died unexpectedly, while a student at Washington State.  It was Christmas about a year later and a family reunion was planned. Elaine asked Rick to try to get some eggs at a nearby mini-mart.  There was only one carton of a dozen eggs left.  Rick paid for it and received a dollar bill and some change back, which he quickly stuffed in his pocket.  When he got home, he by chance noticed some writing on the dollar bill.  It read "Tami H." with a smiley face underneath.  Note the correct but unusual spelling (i. e. not "Tammy").  H was the initial of Tami's last name.  The cashier was  a stranger and wrote nothing on the bill in Rick's presence..  Besides, Tami had lived far, far away.  Rick and Elaine were both blown away by this ADC. 

Meanwhile, Tami's Mom (Elaine's sister) had been having several dreams and waking visions of her daughter.  Tami had always appeared full-bodied, but in the last vision she appeared only from the waist up.  Tami explained that it was becoming harder and harder to manifest visually to her Mom as she progressed on the other side.  This fits  nicely with research done in the 1970s indicating that 50% of Americans (48% of Brits) report ADC contact with their deceased loved ones during the first year of their passing.  After that, ADCs are relatively rare. 

Don

Interesting story Don. (Nice to see no overt religious overtones to it.) Just a nice story about the bond of love.

By the way, Elaine had been to the healing spring at Lourdes. Her cancer went into remission, but it came back.   She gave me a sealed glass of water from this spring.  I already have a thermos of water from the healing spring at "the house of the Virgin Mary" at Ephesus in Turkey.

I've told the story here of how Dick thought this was a joke, but his wife Mary Ann convinced him to pour it on his knee with bad arthritis and torn tendons.  He had been scheduled for surgery frmo the top orthopedic surgeon in Spokane when he returned from Turkey.  The surgeon put him under anesthetic and cut him open, only to find nothing wrong.  Even the arthritis was gone!  I mean, the doctor had al MRIs, etc. to prove the tendons were torn and the arthritis was  there.

I also have a bottle of water from the Jordan River.  OK, some people collect stamps or rare coins; I collect water from holy springs or rivers.  Just imagine the healing service: one line gets anointed with Lourdes, another with the Virgin Mary's healing spring, and a 3rd with Jordan River water.  If I advertise this, it would bring a crowd.  But of course, I'd never do it.  Still, the fantasy is interesting.  And you can't buy those kinds of bottlled water at Wal-mart!
Don

It's very amazing.
Do they have to do something in return? Like pray everyday, or commit to a certain kind of behavior from then on?

I have osteoarthritis in my right knee. The cartilage is completely gone and the knee is very damaged already. I can hardly believe it would work for me.

It is the thought that counts.  Literally.  In the NT, Jesus looks on those who were healed by his touch and says "your faith has made you whole."  Note that he did not say "my faith has made you whole." 

In other words, it is the belief of the good person in the healing, the certitude that by touching the hem of JC's robe, etc. they would be healed that activated their healing potential. 

In this regard, the origin of the water may or may not really be important.  I have seen healings documented where believer's were told that a healing talisman was applied, when in fact it was a sham.  The miraculous healing still came forth. 

The healing process may to some extent be imprinted on the water (see the work of Emoto), but it is less important than the internal belief/certitude/thanks/conviction of the supplicant.


Matthew

I just visited http://nl.lourdes-france.org (english version: http://en.lourdes-france.org )

You can send them an email requesting for water. They only charge you for the shipping costs.
I sent them a mail with my adress requesting for water and additional instructions like prayers that should be said.

I believe in Christ. I believe in miracles and the power of the mind. I am convinced of the spiritual reality.

So I will just wait and see.

Sometimes, Mogen things can be healed with faith.  Sometimes, we are given opportunities to heal with doctors and others in the physical world. 

I wouldn't let the Lourdes water be a test of your faith.  Many of the faithful go there for miracles but miracles aren't guaranteed.  It is simply that faith/conviction can change probabilities in the "real world" so that certain possibilities may be more likely. 

M

I have been to the specialist in hospital just last week. He said the knee is so bad that the only option would be to put an artificial knee in it.
He said it's no option anymore to inject fluid cartilage in it anymore.

He also said that I have done the most important thing already myself. And that was losing weight. I have lost 18kg, about 40 pounds from october 2011 to april 2012.

I have been a vegetarian since 2008 or so but still used cheese on my bread. Last october I dumped the cheese and went completely dairy free. From that moment my body almost spontaneously started to dump fat. It was from then on very easy for me to eat only during meals and drink luke warm water between meals. Luke warm is softer for your stomach. I store it in a thermos can.

From now on I want to use affirmations to lose an extra 5kg of fat. Maybe it helps.

In 2004 I had an operation to set the lower leg in line with the upper leg. It had a small arch before that. But that was then already too late because most of the cartilage was gone by then already.

He advised me to stay in motion and watch my weight. In that way we should try to postpone the artificial knee as long as possible. Preferable until I'm 60 or so.
I don't have any pain. It's just with cycling that making the 90+ degrees bend is a bit too difficult in the first 5 minutes. He said that's because of the lining out of the leg in 2004.

I'm open to try the water of Lourdes. I don't expect too much of it. But if you don't try and are not open you don't give it a chance either.

OK Mogen, but just as an FYI,

You have to believe it will work.  In your gut.  At your core.   You have to give thanks for the healing before it occurs, and cultivate the emotions and feeling of how you will feel if you are free of pain and walking well.  If you say "I don't think it will work but will try..."  it won't.

WIth meditation, you can let the healing thought slip to imprint itself onto your subconscious till it becomes a true conviction. 

Now my belief is that when you are convinced you will heal, the cure may come.  And while miraculous cures may happen, you also may be given another opportunity - a medical treatment, pill, topical agent, etc. that greatly improves your function and pain. 

Be open to the possibilities.

Matthew

Well Doc,

Don told the story of Dick who had severe arthritis on his knee and thought it was a joke. But it did work for him. Even while he thought it was a joke ...
That's strange. Because Dick must not have been convinced or so that it would work.

I do have pills against inflammation, diclofenac, I hope that name is the same in english as in dutch. I usually have a thick knee and when it hurts I have a little pill to inhibit the inflammation.

But I am certainly convinced that it can work. I have worked with spiritual energy in the past and in one occasion it was with such intensity that it would surprise you if I told you about it. That was an extreme and unique occurence. I did that together with the help of my spiritual guides. They must have helped me to process the karmic effects of it. I say that because of the typical way that happened. Nevertheless it took me years to get over it...

So I am convinced as far as it can get. In my humble opinion.  ; )

But if it wouldn't work, I just keep on breathing. I'm ok with it.

There are other treatments too Mogen.  There is a lubricant injectoin in the US called "Synvisc" or "Orthovisc" that helps a lot of people.  There is a topical treatment with Lidocaine called Lidoderm and there are nutritional treatments that help including Bromelain, Turmeric and Glucosamine-Chondroitan.


M

My doctor said the knee is too damaged for a lubricant injection.
I think Lidocaine only suppresses pain. I have used Lidocaine for another purpose and it worked reasonable well. I don't know about the nutritional treatments you mentioned, but the cartilage is all but gone.

Some years after the correctional surgery to line up the lower and upper leg a photo was taken of the inside of the knee and it showed that the cartilage was practically gone. I have seen that with my own eyes.
Recent x-rays, april 2012, showed the knee was so badly damaged that to the judgement of the doctor lubricant injection is no longer an option.

I am scheduled for another appointment in april 2013. So we do keep an eye on it.

Maybe try the lubricant anyway or get a second opinion about it?  Some surgeons just like to operate...

The main problem is when I make the 90+ degree bend on the bycicle.
There is a piece of joint from the lower leg that pushes against the joint from the upper leg.
It's on the outside of the knee. On the backside.

The doctor said that was caused by the surgery back in 2004 to correct the outlining of the upper and lower leg. The knee now uses more of the outside then before the surgery to glide during movements.

What I was thinking about is if it would be possible to just take away that little knob. It could be maybe 1 or 2 mm thick. But if important tissue sticks there it may not be possible. Or maybe the bone could start to bleed very much. I don't know. I'm not too much of a specialist in that.

Walking goes much better then before. That's because I lost so much weight. I do use a cane for walking. It allows me to walk straight up. I had to overcome my pride to use it but walking is better then only using the bicycle. You use your muscles the way you are supposed to used them. In the natural way.
I started that about a week ago when my bycicle broke down and had to buy a new chain.
I have to build up power in the muscles to extend my range. I'm 52 now. That's ok for using a cane. I hardly see any other people on the street except much older people using a cane. But I guess all the others rather stay inside or get an artificial knee too soon.

Don-

If this ADC is genuine, it raises some interesting questions.

All along I've heard/read that once someone has passed over, and they are still in the earth plane, they have no ability to affect physical things.

For instance, they pass their ethereal hands right through solid objects.  Nor can they pick up a pencil and write a note.

On the other hand, many people report that shortly after a loved one dies, they can not only sense their presence but can sometimes feel their hands pressing down on them as they lie in bed (which, by the way, happened to me the night after my own dad died).

So I have to wonder.....which is it?  Can the deceased affect the physical environment or not? 

I still have to think there's some sort of protocol that determines such things.  And it's something that no one has been able to figure out.  Why do some of us get solid ADCs while others, equally in need, get nothing.

I know that sometimes we do get signs or signals that we might dismiss or ignore.  I'm not excluding those things, nor am I excluding vivid dreams.

I'm really talking about solid, almost irrefutable evidence that our loved one survived death.  Those things remain all too infrequent (such as your Leonard story, which you might want to repeat for benefit of the newbies).

R

IN the absence of clear guidlines about the process and potential for ADCS, their sheer diverisity must be documented in the hope that helpful patterns emerge.  In Tami's case, she died young unexpectedly like Leonard Sleight's son, who was killed in a small plane crash and later returned to drive Leonard around in his old truck.  When the young die unpectedly "before theit time,"  more spectacular ADCs tend to occur.  Tami's visionary appearance from the waist up is also typical, though not the accompanying explanation that she is finding it increasingly hard to manifest full-body.  Even so, the relative rarity of ADCs after a yaer also seems somewhat typical.  So does the smelling of odors characteristic of the deceased. 

But what about the signature on the dollar bill?  That strikes me as highly unusual, unless one can compare it to Elaine's friend Mary Ann's ADC.  Her son, Sebby, died at age 17 after battling a congenital disease.  Sebby's name was written large and claerly in the cloud which Mary Ann and her husband saw after they left the funeral home.  This signature was an amazing comfort to this couple.  It was first glimpssed by another family member.  I had told Lloyd and Mary Ann that confirmation of Sebby's survival would first be witnesses by someone else and only then by them.  I pray that more light may be shed on the principles that govern the possibility and physicality of ADCs because I fear that human ignorance and prejudice against this possibilty severely limits them.

Don

Roger,

It strikes me that ADCs will depend primarily on two factors:
1.  first the state of the deceased.  If they are scared, fearful, in a bad place; if they need rest over there after a prolonged illness; if they understand that they are more than their physical bodies........a lot of scenarios.  I would imagine that depending on their condition on arrival in the afterlife, they may or may not be focused on the communication, or even know that they are dead.......

2.  The state of mind of the grieving person in the physical plane.  What are their true belief systems?  Is a comforting ethereal hand a possibility, or something they wouldn't be open to?  We open or close our minds to communications as per our belief systems. 

So from my perspective the enormity of the situation can make an ADC difficult from the get go....  Many who passover are overwhelmed.  They go to a beautiful park, and quietly soak in what happened.  Or they are in denial that they have died, and they hang around their house, or their body, etc.   Given all these possible states of mind, we can see that getting the situation optimized for a satisfying ADC may indeed be a rare event.


M

Matthew,

I think we can infer what does not happen to new arrivals; in their sorrow over the family and friends they left behind, they are not immediately offered a rraining session in how to perform ADCs. If they were, ADCs would be more commonplace and more dramatic.  Similarly, in earth life, spiritual experiences generally come to those who actively long for them or develop their consciousness in a way that facilitates them.  The old cliche about earthly spiritual journeys probably applies to the afterlife as well--i. e. when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

Don

Matthew-

I understand your point, but on the other hand we have people like Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, who by all measures should have had an easy time making her survival known to others.  After all, everyone who knew her was aware of her conviction that we survive death and her positive attitude about dying.

Surely she wasn't fearful, nor were those she left behind resistant to being shown that she survived death.

She's one of the most well-known of afterlife believers, but certainly not the only one.

Remember Don's example of Harry Houdini, who assured his wife that she would get definite signals that he survived his death.  No such signals occurred.

I agree that the negative state of mind of both the deceased and those left behind would be factors in lack of ADCs, but when we have the opposite scenarios shouldn't we expect opposite results?

I continue to think that there is some sort of protocol that comes into play that determines whether an ADC will occur, especially when it comes to dramatic examples such as Leonard's son, who not only appears in physical form to his father after his death but who actually gets into the family pick-up truck and drives the two of them around.

R

As for Jozef Rulof and his Masters I can say they will never make contact with Earth people anymore. They had a mission to complete while Jozef was on Earth. They have left over 11,000 pages of spiritual knowledge. They have completed their mission far beyond what was expected from them from the higher Masters in the highest spheres of light.

The Masters have already said that they will never make contact again, so any channel or believer or who-ever says they have had contact with them is just a plain liar.

Other people will come to pick up the stick and carry on with the work.

Rondele,

Here is one possible explanation for why the most obvious deceased spirits fail to communicate with their loved ones.  Elizabeth Kubler-Ross contracted Alzheimer's Disease and entered the afterlife in this impaired condition.  If she needed extended care in the afterlife equivalent of a Rehab Center (such as that reported by Robert Bruce and Robert Monroe), she was in no position to enter atraining program to contact earthly loved ones.  Swedenborg and Robert Bruce both report suppression of earth memories on the part of postmortem spirits, but the onset and conditions of this suppression are murky.  On the other hand, Leonard's son, Jeff, and his family were killed suddenly in a plane crash and may have entered the afterlife with their minds in good condition; and the shock of unexpected death may have induced an obsession to reassure their family.  The same can be said for Tami H. who died at age 19 of an unexpected toxic reaction to pharmaceuticals.  Of course, the issue is far more complicated than this, but it strikes me as a good idea to correlate ADCs, especially the most impressive and persistant type, with how the deceased died and their mental state at death.  Perhaps there is a limited window of opportunity to enter a program for ADCs. 

That said, I'm fascinated by the fact that, whereas Houdini failed to keep his promise to contact his wife, William James was able to keep his promise to contact his friend, James Hyslop.  Houdin was a lifelong skeptic, and William James was highly evolved spiritually and a true believer in the afterlife.  Houdini promised to reveal the contents of an envelope, which he may have forgotten at death.  William James left the form of postmortem contact flexible, and ultimately communicated through a Ouija Board in Ireland the meaningful inside joke message, "Remember the red pyjamas."  This message was meaningful to Jamse Hyslop in New York. 

There is one aspect of this question that troubles me.  Most of us would want to reassure our loved ones of our survival, if we could.  Is it possible that death totally changes the priorities of most people?   A fascinationg and important question!

Don

I think death can sure change the priorities of people but it depends on their situation while they were on Earth and their new situation in the afterlife. There are many different configurations possible so I think it is not so easy to layout what those changes would be. There are so many possibilities.

Don-

When I read your last sentence, I thought "bingo!"

It reminds me of something I read in one of Michael Newton's books that always struck me as a possible explanation as to why most people don't get ADCs.

Specifically, clients of his who were under deep hypnosis reported that when we incarnate, we take only a portion of our energy with us.  Part of our spiritual makeup remains in the "afterlife."

So perhaps...just maybe...when we die there's no priority to provide evidence to our loved ones on earth that we survived because a portion of our loved ones is fully aware of that to begin with.  They have been there all along and are welcoming us back.

Yeah I know it sounds farfetched, but the very fact that we are conscious human beings instead of a member of the insect family or an amoeba of some sort is an awesome fact once we contemplate the alternative possibilities.

R

I think it that dying is a profound process.  The idea that we have two natures; an outer earthly nature and an inner nature, could in some ways explain the desire to communicate (or lack).  Human/earthly priorities may fade away in the afterlife when faced with a greater reality.  It may be seen that we have many ways to pursure our quests but that communication with those on earth is not one of them.

We may also be told, directly by guides, friends, loved ones, that interfering with the earth life of a loved one by making an appearance (comforting as it would be) is not productive and may cause problems (sort of like ruining the end to a movie before it finished). 

So there may be rules and we may understand why it is important to leave the living world to those living in it. 

Don't point about Alzheimer's (Kubler Ross had a series of strokes) is a good one - that we don't know how long it takes to convalesce on the other side - though I think not long since the physical impediment would have been removed. 

From reading near death accounts, it is apparent that for some people their "crossing over" experience is so overwhelmingly pleasant and different from their point of view from this "reality" that they do actually feel that this life experience is almost like a dream to them.

Imagine waking up from a dream in the morning as the dream begins to slip from your memory and you commence with the vivid life which you live in your day to day life -- that is how near death experiencers describe the "crossing over" process.

Many people seem to feel an overwhelming feeling of being drawn elsewhere, and to feel such peace and love where they are going, and to be seeing and experiencing such utterly fascinating and delightful things that can hardly be described in words that they simply can't comprehend the "importance" of this place anymore.

I have read accounts where they acknowledge that it sounds almost cruel or inhuman, but they just don't care anymore about this place. Even when they find that it is not yet their "time" and they return, it is often described as unpleasant to have to return.

We are apparently sometimes drawn to realms so quickly and so thoroughly that we are like moths to a flame, and we can hardly help ourselves. We are, indeed, at the mercy of a process which is often beyond our conscious control.

That is what I can pick up from these accounts of near death.

It seems to be such an "expansive" state that we are pulled into that our individual perspective from this place on earth is quite alien, even if we do a life review. We have, seemingly, awakened into our more "real" life, much as we sometimes seemingly awaken to our more "real" life here.

I have posted a video in the "Off Topic" section which illustrates this in an unusual way. Imagine that you are 4 years old. Imagine the conversation you are having with a friend of a similar age. Can you remember being 4 years old? How clearly? Does it seem like you were a completely different person when you were 4? No doubt, that is the magnitude of the change of our essential being when we cross to a higher plane of existence.

Very good point, Isee.  It should also be pointed out that the ability to manifest objects or findings in the physical world is described as quite difficult.  One text I read likened it to trying to talk or see through a solid frosted glass wall, where you could only hear faint sounds or see outlines of people or objects. 

Perhaps some do focus and learn to communicate, but toward what end?  It is clear that getting "stuck" to the physical world is not a good outcome after we die.  This does not equate to forgetting our loved ones (or not loving them anymore).

Perhaps there is a feeling that they are on their journey and it will all be fine in the end.  So why would the ADC be so pressing?

Many NDEs report experiences where they meet with a deceased loved one.  So apparently, years later, if it suits us, we may be called to welcome our loved one when they cross over either for an NDC or in death. 

Clearly ADC to the living is not a high priority.  If it were, explorers like Robert Monroe would have been expected to have manifest to multiple TMI people, and countless other examples are to be had.

Yet the lack of ADCs should not be a strong indication that there is no life after death.  Merely that these communications are not easy, and while many relatives report some contact after a loved one dies, the contact is not spectacular. 

I have had some contacts with my spiritual guides which may not have been spectacular but they were very intense.
There has to be a reason for it and it has to fit in the situation.

I remember one situation while I was working as a volunteer in a spiritual growth organization in my thirties. I was not too very sure if I was doing the right by being there so my guide offered me a kind of assurance.
While I was sitting at my desk I suddenly felt a strong flow of energy going through my underarms. It was a very powerful and magnetizing energy. It was something that never appears by itself. It was so strong that I had to take a break and go to the tea-room to let my arms get back to normal again. It took me at least ten minutes or so and I wondered about the power that the spirits must have overthere.

But it had done it's job. I did not doubt anymore that I was on the right track overthere.

I've had more of those experiences.

Rondele

re: Oct 23

yes we'd all like to get the scarlet ribbons for the little girl's hair!


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On the other hand, many people report that shortly after a loved one dies, they can not only sense their presence but can sometimes feel their hands pressing down on them as they lie in bed (which, by the way, happened to me the night after my own dad died).

Solid irrefutable evidence usually means we are looking for the scarlet ribbons, no? BEcause we usually base our world on the prmise that the physical is first, primary.

But I don't think that conciousness is a product of physical matter. So physical matter and some form of spiritual conciousness must exist side by side.

So, when I get reiki, I sometimes feel as though there are hands touching me...where no one is still standing. Or Mogenblue felt something under his arms. So perhaps that parallel spiritual layer can be sensed by the physical. It is not part of our way of thinking to say how the physical and spiritual are interacting.

Lucy-

When I referred to solid verification, I was thinking of Don's story about Leonard's son as an example.

For a newly deceased person, dying unexpectedly in a plane crash, to appear to his father in physical form and to get behind the wheel of a truck and drive around with his dad by his side, conversing just as they would prior to the crash....well that is some scarlet ribbon!!

Maybe Don will re-tell the whole story sometime.

Regarding your other points, of course I agree.

R

Although I am open minded, the idea of an ethereal spirit piloting a vehicle, in the flesh seems somewhat off.  Although it is said that JC came back in the flesh, few others could have done that - we just don't interchange mind for body that easily. 

The driving episode could have been a vivid ADC encounter in a mental plane that for all intents and purposes appeared to be real.  I am not discounting that it could have happened as described, but just curious about such extremely rare fleshy manifestations. 

When dealing with someone you know passing on, family member, friend, lover, and so on, the intensity felt could very well be more intense for the one passing on. Your physical and familiar identifications are not challenged the same way. Passing on is maybe not like going to the next class in school, but could be like graduating, and the ground disappears. You're still a mom, social worker, hobby pianist, careful shopper and look ravishing in red. The one passing on isn't a father anymore, and may find that many personal definitions were defined by the physical. Used to feel happy and having that reflected by smiling and hugging. Sadness reflected as baggy eyes, a frown, tears on the cheeks and a lip shaking like elvis' legs. Animalistic impulses mixing with spiritual impulses, now pure non-physical. How does he define himself now? What now, as the physical is no longer the main focus? The ones still in physical vessels may be dealing with physical and mental loss and yet have to go on with the physical as their main focuses, still on a day to day basis. I've found no conclusion as to why someone who gets by fine have contact/confirmations and somebody needing/craving it do not. Instead there are a lot of maybes, perhapses, could bes and don't knows.

I've heard of ethereal hands appearing, sort of wispy apparitions, but for a fully formed individual who is able to drive a vehicle......I also have reservations but Don was convinced of the authenticity of the person who relayed the story to him.

Unfortunately Leonard, who was the only eye witness to this event, had died by the time Don heard of the story.  And this seems to be a common thread re. stories of this kind....there never seems to be an independent objective eyewitness who can vouch for the story.

As I recall, it was one of Leonard's relatives who told the story as he/she heard it from Leonard. 

Are there alternate explanations for this fantastic ADC?  Yes, I'm sure there are and hopefully Don can present some of the possibilities.

R

Rondele, I heard the story directly from Leonard after his wife hinted that Leonard had had an incredible ADC.  Leonard was a wealthy construction baron, a very down-to-earth man who didn't want to sound crazy.  So he hept his ADC to himself until I drew him out.  I pressed the issue because I was curious about why he was so emotional abouit other family health problems, but not about the death of his son's family.  Once he had shared the story with me, he decided to share it with his daughters as well; and one of them then shared it at hs memorial service.  Leonard was a very kind man, a man of absolute integrity.  His story reminds me of a simlar ADC experienced by the late actor, Telly Savalas.

In my view, the most important mysteries, are those which, if solved, would go a long way to shed light on the mystery of death and dying.  To my knowledge, no one has even tri research the patterns in any comprehensive way. 

Kubler-Ross told the story of being visited by a former patient who was by the time of the visit , deceased. They rode the elevator together up to K-R's office. I believe the story is in one of her books, but I heard her tell it in person. She was highly charismatic and the story was spell-binding. Not as impressive as driving a truck, but I do wonder how many such stories there are out there.

MAtthew, I agree that some perception issues may be involved but I have trouble defining what a baseline of perception should be. Does it occur in that interface where physical and spiritual meet? Then there is no such thing as objective perception. and I've heard that even witnesses to crimes can have trouble agreeing on what happened. And face recognition of strangers can be poor.

Science gets around this by demanding repeatability.

Don-

Sorry for mistake, but since you heard the story directly from Leonard it certainly adds to the credibility.

The Savalas ADC was equally amazing, I was lucky enough to hear him describe it on a radio program many years ago, shortly after it happened.  I'll never forget it.

There's no doubt that entities, not just angels but regular people, can manifest in a physical way.  The burning question will always be the rarity of such occurrences.

Obviously Leonard's son didn't appear to him without some sort of help or direction or permission.  Or for a reason far different than simply the objective of providing comfort.

Otherwise we'd all be visited by deceased loved ones, since we all would benefit from direct evidence that they are alive and well.  Which raises the obvious question that should be contemplated-maybe providing comfort is NOT the reason behind ADCs......

R

R,
(1) Leonard's deceased son, Jeff, emerged from the ditch by his home and asked to drive Leonard around in his old truck "for old time's sake.". Jeff described his finanicial investments so his Dad would have an easier time settling his estate. Jeff then reassured Leonard that the family was all together (his wife Karen and 2 children) and that they were all OK).  This conversation happened, while Jeff was driving down Cty. Rte. 37 towards Rochester, NY.  At some point, Jeff turned right down a less traveled road, drove 2 more miles, and then stopped the truck, saying, "I'm sorry, Dad; I'm not permitted to go any further."  Jeff then got out of the truck, walked towards a clump of bush, and dematerialized. 

Who was giving permission and setting limits for this astounding ADC?  Jeff never explained.  But clearly the intervention of this "guide" made this drama happen; so Jeff could not simply exercise super-human creativity to drive the truck; nor coiuld his wife Karen the next day ,when she accosted a weeping Leonastting on a log rd in the woods by his home, made a branch crack to alert him to her presence, and said, "Why are you still grieving?  Didn't we tell you we're all OK?  You get back in the house with Mom and comfort her!"  It seems that only a few have such a gifted guide and therefore cannot manifest in this spectacular way.  Like attracts like in the afterlife.  Did Jeff attract this guide due to his own faith,  Leonard's faith, or both?  I don't know

Let me add this parallel: For the benefit of her Mom uncle, and aunt, Tami H. somehow imprinted her name and a smiley face on the dollar bill in the mini-mart.  Similarly, the deceased sprit driver gave Telly Savalas a dollar to pay for enough gas to drive his car home.  .

Don

This reminds me of something I read in 'The Autobiography of a Yogi' by Yogananda.
He described how his deceased teacher Sri Yukteswar was allowed a brief moment to re-appear to him and tell him he was all fine. He told him life in the afterlife was beautiful and that there are spheres overthere that are seperated like water from land and land from air.

For me, Tami's regular appearances in dreams to converse with her Mom establish what should be the goal for the dying to comfort and reassure their families.  Just prior to the Christmas dollar miracle, she appeared from the waist up and lamented, "I'm sorry, Mom; it's becoming increasingly harder for me to manifest to you as I progress over here.  This must be my last visit."  Then Tami somehow imprints her name with a smily face on the dollar in Minimart change fo Rick to bring back to her Mom as a spectacular final goodbye.  This--and cases like Leonard's visit from his dead truck driving son and the next day from his son's wife--are powerful attestations to what is possible. 

To me, all the speculation on the other thread as to why such powerful verifcations are so rare rings hollow--except for the ES-Robert Bruce discovery of memories becoming dormant for most at a certain phase of the postmortem adjustment phase.  The fact that Leonard's son and his family, like Tami, died prematurely strikes me as a decisive factor that may delay the dormancy process as the deceased linger longer (get temporally stuck near the earth plane?)  as a result of the surprising trauma of premature death. 


Don