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Title: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by Vicky on Aug 21st, 2012 at 6:00pm
I had this very interesting, very long dream last week which seemed spiritually symbolic to me, after setting intention to dream with conscious awareness. My intention was something like this... "Tonight I will dream with conscious awareness. I want to have an OBE. I want to not be afraid to explore new areas. Wherever I find myself, I want to remember to raise my consciousness and not be held in fear. I know that all I need to do is remember my Guidance and know that it is here with me always, always there for me. All I have to do is bring the feeling of it to me. I must remember to raise my consciousness this way." (The way I "program" myself is to state my intention so I know it's what I want, and then lie there feeling the essence of what it means to me until I drift off to sleep. If I awaken in the night not having remembered anything, I set the same intention again as I go back to sleep).
It was a clear, vivid, in-color dream. I was at an indoor swimming pool which was in the middle of a large, long, rectangular room, and the pool was nearly the size of the room. Around the pool was just enough room for a walk-way and small tables to sit at. It was possible to "travel" around the pool in sequential upward movement as if going up a couple steps ever so often, in a clockwise motion. But the scene never changed despite the intention that this is how everyone was to travel in order to get anywhere else. It made me wonder if perhaps only the pool stayed the same but perhaps the people changed. I wanted to continue traveling to find out how it worked. I saw that some people did not choose to go into the pool, nor travel around it, but only sat at small tables off to the side, watching others go by. I felt they must be either very bored or very unmotivated, as I felt completely motivated to continue walking. For one thing, the walkway was very narrow, not giving one much time to stop and think. There were too many people going by, so it was natural to keep up the pace or else find yourself stuck and unable to move. I felt a little pity for those I saw just sitting. They seemed so dull and lifeless. I had no desire to stay here, nor go into the pool at this level. I wanted to see what the other levels had to offer. I noticed that I walked in one direction, as most others did, but that I never went back the other direction, although I knew it was allowable. For some reason, I felt compelled to only move higher. As I walked, I started regaining memory of past times that I had come here to this level and remembered that my energy was definitely a part of what made it the place that it was. I started becoming more and more aware that I didn't feel comfortable being here anymore, feeling as dull and lifeless as some of the people I saw there. I wanted so badly to go to a higher level but it seemed no matter how much I walked, I wasn't getting anywhere. There were a lot of people in the pool, and a lot out on the sides sitting, relaxing, or waiting. The atmosphere seemed to make me aware that most people here were not fully rested and content, but were there taking a break on their way to somewhere else, but not all were fully motivated to move. The more I watched them, the more I felt I was being pulled down to their level. At one point I considered just going home, as I'd much rather just be at home by myself in the comfort of my own home. As I decided to leave, I passed a young boy sitting at a table. He suddenly somehow fell and bumped his head. It was all very exaggerated and I felt he was doing it just to get attention, but I reacted immediately to help him and to bring him back to full consciousness. No one else seemed to notice or be in care of him. No one else came to help even though they were watching only a few feet away. I safely got him sitting upright again and fully aware as quickly as possible. I let him know I was helping him and he seemed accepting of my help. Soon two women walked toward us, acknowledging that they were with him. I couldn't tell which one was his mother as they both felt to me to be equally responsible for the boy. It was apparent they were appreciative and thankful of my care for him while they had been in the pool, and I was happy they were coming back to be with him, but they didn't seem to have as much concern as I did. I now felt a stronger urge to just leave and go home. This place just felt weird to me. But then it occured to me that if I had gone home, I wouldn't have been here to help the boy. As dull and pathetic as these people seemed, I knew that my energy could do some good here. It felt good to help the boy, to give him my attention, care, and love when no one else was there to do it. I felt such compassion. I knew it was my choice, that if I wanted to travel higher then I would need to pass by this level in order to do so, and that maybe helping others along the way was what I was supposed to do in order to get anywhere higher than this. So I made the choice to stay a little longer, giving more of my energy to this place. As I continued walking, I passed by another table where a man was sitting, who had seen my interaction with the boy and that no one else had stopped to help. He was telling me it was good that I helped, and he wanted to know if I'd help him too. I couldn't help but feel obliged. The feeling of compassion was so strong. He seemed so timid, but I encouraged him to confide in me. Eventually he told me that he wished he could "take the floor" although he was afraid to and didn't think it would work. He wanted to be a motivator, a speaker, but he was afraid no one would listen. So he felt stuck. As he explained this to me, I realized why some of the people sitting here seemed to dull and lifeless. They really were stuck, unable to move because of the way things worked here. The energy here perpetuated the state of being of this place, and unless they decided to make a change, nothing here would ever change. If this man really wanted to leave this level, he'd have to first make a change inside of himself. I felt so sorry for this man but I was happy he reached out to me, since everyone else was just passing by. It gave me another opportunity to be of service to someone in need here. I encouraged him that some things take a process before they can happen, but that if we keep trying we can create the change we want for ourselves. I told him to just keep trying to muster up the desire and courage to take the floor, to feel what it feels like to speak and be motivating, and that he'll know when the right moment comes for him to get up and do it. I explained that his expectation of how the others might react or not react to what he had to say wasn't something he needed to be concerned about, because if they wanted to listen to him it was their choice. Whatever good he had to offer them, he'd have to give it with no strings attached. I could tell he wished I could help him, but I gently let him know that that wasn't possible. He had to help himself. Then it dawned on me why I was there. I remembered my intention of wanting to raise my consciousness, and I realized that I was helping myself do that by helping him. I suddenly felt a sense of compassion for the boy, the two women, and the man that I helped. I didn't want to go home anymore. I wanted to travel higher and knew that I would eventually get there. Memories of other levels were coming back to me, and I realized why I sometimes came back down to lower levels like this one. If there were people I could help, it helped me to do so. It was the only way I ever reached the higher levels in the first place. I realized that going back the other way wouldn't pull the life out of me as long as I continued to raise my consciousness by helping others along the way. I sensed this was a never-ending process I'd have to engage in if I wanted to continue exploring. Vicky |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by BobMoenroe on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 2:46am
You were shown and recognized that change were to come from their hearts and beings, and thereby they were also free to wander at their pace, even if it's dull and slow to you. And then comes the last paragraph which contradicts what you were shown, and why you're there, helping when help isn't needed isn't helping you nor them.
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Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by Bardo on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 8:24am
Vicky,
What a clear and interesting vision. I love your method of stating your intention before sleeping. I must try that, because I have been having real trouble focusing during meditation enough to access my guidance (or at least that is my impression). The issue of being a helper seems to be central. I know that both my mother and sister have gone on to be helpers, fulfilling specific roles in support of certain populations of spirits. Whether it is necessary to reach out as you do, in order to advance spiritually, is probably an individual thing. I know that I have that instinct as well. You are clearly a helper! I look forward to hearing more as you progress. F- |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by isee on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 10:01am
I, too, think it's interesting how you prepped yourself to have this dream, and I forget just how powerful suggestions to yourself can be. Also, the detail of your dreams, and the descriptions of others of their explorations while meditating, simply amaze me. How you are able to remember so much while in such a deep state baffles me. I can tell myself that I am definitely going to bring something back with me, over and over, and try so hard to keep it somewhere in my consciousness where it will be available, and have it completely disappear. Just a muffled memory is all that is left.
But, I do remember a very vivid dream I had not so long ago, within the last week. I remember that I saw my grandparents, who are both deceased, and that they were together, standing in front of me. Amid the other activities in the dream, which took place inside a house, I saw them clearly speaking to me. As they spoke I realized that I was in a dream, saying, "You're dead! I must be dreaming!" I said this several times, like trying to pinch myself to wake up. Now, that seems like a very rude thing to say to my grandparents! But, as I realized I was dreaming, I began to look around, as I do these days when I begin to become lucid. I was flabbergasted by the details around me. I KNEW I was dreaming, but this was SO real. So CLEAR. Sparkling clear. Of course, I could not allow myself unfettered freedom, for whatever reason, and I quickly "clicked" over into another dream subject, some family emotional issues I have been subconsciously working on. When I awoke in the morning, I could remember my lucid moment vividly, but was a little disappointed that I had not taken better advantage of my freedom there, and at my realization, my recognition of my grandparents. This is why learning to become rational and imaginative and truly free is such a good exercise. You never know when you will have the perfect opportunity to take advantage of it to have adventures beyond your wildest dream on this plane. So, perhaps your suggestions are truly useful, Vicky. It is one thing to be able to "see" the big picture, with whatever emotional overlays you are experiencing, and another to be able to make a real "choice" about how and why you are proceeding to your next activity, and who you might want to take with you, and who you might want to help you, and how open you might become to what you feel you have never seen or known. |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by recoverer on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 2:49pm
Hello Vicky, and thank you for sharing your experience. For reasons I won't get into, I found it helpful.
You probably remember that in the past there were discussions about affirmations and I wasn't real supportive of them. I believe that the manner in which you used them in this case was helpful. It was a matter of setting your intent rather than stating something that is opposite of what is true. The part of no strings attached is key. If one gets overly attached to the results of helping another, things can get out of wack. Nevertheles, wanting to help others is a part of getting out of the muck and progressing to a higher level of being. |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by Vicky on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 7:13pm
Hey everyone, thanks for your responses!!
I have been using this type of programming since I was a teenager. It doesn't always work, but I'm getting better at learning the right "feeling" of pure focus. wrote on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 10:01am:
I have discoverd what works is focusing on the feeling of your intention. Making yourself feel whatever you imagine it feels like to actually have what you're asking for. A strong focus isn't just mental concentration or focusing on the words. It's about feeling the feeling of what you want, feeling it so purely that you actually alter your energy state. Just like when you're in love, your energy state of being has actually altered. I have best results placing myself within the energy-feeling of my intention when I can have a clear mind to focus on only that, and I have to practice what it feels like to not be thinking about anything else but the present moment. Once I feel I have my own full attention focused right on the present moment, then I only think about the feeling of my intention, repeat it in my mind several times, and then just maintain the feeling of that in-the-moment full-attention focus. One way to get a better understanding of what I mean is to remember how frustrating it is to be counting something when others are talking. It gets especially harder when someone else starts saying other numbers to throw you off. But if you can pull all your attention to your counting, and ignore everything around you, that's the kind of focus I'm talking about. It means you literally block out anything else, not only what you hear, but what else you think about. This dream was a type of OBE, which is why I could remember such great, vivid detail. I know that most people don't consider such experiences as OBEs, but because I was consciously aware at a level of consciousness that isn't my normal everyday focus on my physical body, it's an OBE. This explains the enhanced ability of clear, vivid memory. When I have a clairvoyant experience, the memory recall ability is 100 times greater than anything in physical reality experience. That's because of the level of consciousness in which clairvoyance is experienced. The same is true for OBE states. I have memory of my first OBE from the age of 2 months old...the reason I could remember the experience from such a young age was because the memory of the experience was stored in the area of consciousness of the experience, not just in my brain, and at a level of consciousness that I could go back to again and again over the years. With practice over the years of going in and out of that level of consciousness, I was able to retain memories stored there and carry them over to physical waking consciousness. This is why I love to do conscious programming. All you need to do is have a desire for what you want to experience, remember or imagine the feeling of it, and have full-attention focus while doing it. When you set intention with feeling instead of just logic and words, you open up your intuitive side and when you receive intuitively, you're more open than you would be if you tried to only focus through logical and analytical type thinking. Isee, you seeing your grandparents so vividly within a dream is a moment of real contact, but it sounds like you were allowing your logic to take over and pull you away from that level of consciousness. If you practice the programming technique while remembering the feeling in your dream of seeing your grandparents, you could induce another such experience. I'd word it something like this, "Tonight I will dream of my grandparents with conscious awareness." If you notice, you'll find that bringing to you the feeling of another person, or the feeling of your desire, feels a lot like being in love. You know when you're really feeling it by what your heart is feeling. |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by Vicky on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 7:15pm recoverer wrote on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 2:49pm:
You're welcome! I'm so happy to hear it was helpful to you. |
Title: Re: Very interesting spiritual dream Post by isee on Aug 28th, 2012 at 10:29am
Thanks for your advice, Vicky. I think you are right about my "logic" taking control. In a dream last night I saw my ex-husband, and we were having a pleasant time together, walking down a country lane. It was quite nice, as we have not had any communication in some time, and he has happily remarried.
However, at some point in my dream, I insisted that he was remarried, and he claimed he was not. I guess I felt some guilt over spending time with him in a dream, although it was so innocent. After waking, I then remembered your comment, and, yes, my logic is taking over in these dreams, and I am questioning people. Because, in the dream, when he contradicted me, I again insisted that he was remarried, saying, "I saw your wedding pictures online" -- which I did, recently. This disturbed me for a while, when I saw them in my waking life, although I was initially happy for them, until I let it go. So, as a result, now, in my dream, it is simply a "fact". One that I apparently can remember in a dream. But, to enjoy an experience, perhaps it is not necessary to question it so thoroughly! :) And, indeed, there is certainly a 'version' of my ex who is not married, somewhere, "out there", who would obviously enjoy a stroll with me down a country lane. Or, some part of me thinks so... Anyway, I'm getting dizzy thinking of all of these multiple versions of us, "out there", doing whatever we do, "out there".... Hmmmmn. |
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