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Title: Two men and a woman (separate retrievals) Post by PauliEffectt on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:07am
Two men and a woman
The retrievals of the two men were done on 2012-02-21, (in between I did the odd F23 retrieval) the woman was retrieved on 2012-03-16. I think the two men were the result of my request for doing retrievals of people all around the world, so after China, Africa and South America, it apparently was time for USA and the Soviet Union. The woman was probably just your average person-in-need-of-retrieval. AMERICAN TEACHER I sense that I'm in North America, most likely the USA. I can see the outdoor stairs of a massive building. Can it be some kind of government building? The stairs are wide and kind of white, like limestone. I can see a few people walking down (or up) the stairs. The stairs themselves are more than 20 (>30 ?) steps high and more than 20 meters wide. I notice one man (walking down the stairs) more than other people and get the impression that he needs retrieval. He has a gray wool jacket, of the type which can also be worn indoors. He has glasses, and is rather slim. His hair is cut short. He wears glasses and carries a very flat, old style brief case. He has dark trousers and shoes. As we are outside, I notice that it must be summer as the sun is shining. I get the year 1936 and his age is 36 years. This seems fine to me as I have hoped to get some more details in my retrievals to confirm that the persons I meet in fact have been real people. At times I've wondered if I make it all up and that my mind is playing tricks at me. The man seems to be in deep thoughts as he walks down the stairs to the right of me. Can he be a doctor? He doesn't seem completely aware of his surroundings. Then I get the names Tammy (a girl's name?), Matthew and Hendrics. I move close to the man. I can see a white limestone wall beyond his left side and I can see part of the stairs' attachment to the wall. Turning my head I try to move my sight further to the right, down the stairs, but I can see nothing, its just a fuzzy haze. I say something to him, like "Hello! Nice day isn't it?" He looks at me and in surprise shouts out "Tammy!" Perhaps he thinks I'm his girl friend? He seems happy to see me. Suddenly I'm able to look further down the stairs, which stretch out in their horizontal lengthe for 50 - 100 meters. To my right at the bottom of the stairs there is some wide walk path and beyond the path is a huge park area, the nearest part of the park has a long lawn area where lots of people lay or sit. A little further into the park, there are more trees and gravel covered paths. I realize that I'm in a university area, a campus. The man is a teacher in biology. I ask him about his age and what's the current year is, and he answers that he is 36 and it's year 1936. I'm perhaps a little doubtful so I ask him who is the president, he answers: "Eisenhover." Uhh? Wasn't it Roosevelt who was the president at this time. I may have to doubt all data I receive now.. :\ The man, the teacher, apparently had fallen and hit his head on the stairs. We (I/Tammy and the teacher) walk forward to an old car, appropriate for the 1930ies. The car is owned by the teacher. The scene is shifted and I can see the teacher dance while turning around on a meadow hill. He holds his arms out like a Y. Ha also swings around his brief case which he holds in his hand. The retrieval is finished, but I don't understand all of it. The "dance scene" is probably my helpers way of showing me that the retrieval is successfully over, but the other things then? (Why did I get the name of the wrong president? Was the year 1936 correct?) --- Hendrics/the teacher's summer time surroundings changes while he dances on a hill in a park area. The surrounding changes to a winter landscape. The trees are now barren and without leaves, there are snow on the ground. At first I don't get it, then I realize that this is a message to me that a second retrieval has started. SOVIET ERA HUNTER I am observing a man from his right, partly from his front. He is dressed in white, slightly camouflaged, winter clothes. He is sitting in a wintery landscape, with snow everywhere. He has a pair of binoculars and a rifle with a riflescope. He wears some kind of white hood which is part of his jacket. I get the impression that he has been shot by unknown reason and died, but that he is unaware of being dead. Perhaps he was shot as a hunting accident? He looks healthy and strong, maybe in his early 40ies. We are somewhere in the north of the Soviet Union. I get very few impressions, the year is 1979. He doesn't seem to be in any problematic situation, he just seems to sit, wait and observe. I too have to wait for more impressions. After some time I notice that the man has some beard and I start to believe that his name is Ivantjuc. We both look in the direction he is looking. I can see a bear walk on all four of its paws at quite a distance. I guess that Ivantjuc is doing some bear hunting. The bear walks on open ground similar to a very open field going on for several hundreds of meters into the distance. I can't see much forest. We are sitting on a small hill with some very small bushes and snow heaps surrounding us. I notice that there are some more forest further to my right, beyond the bear on the field, but most of our surroundings are quite barren and covered in white. I try to say something to the hunter, talk to him about the bear. Suddenly a second bear appears very close to us, only 10 meters away. This second bear is large, perhaps a female bear. The hunter doesn't shot the bear, he doesn't even try to aim at it. I don't understand why. Isn't he here to hunt bear? I say something more to , I try to convince him to shoot the bear, but he get upset and frustrated. I send him PUL. Shift of scene. I now see the hunter driving a snow mobile in high speed. I can follow him as he enters my sight of view form the right and drives to my left, which means that he has his left side towards me. He approaches at an angle so it he moves slightly closer to me as he drives his snow mobile. I get it that he is partly standing up on it and holding the mobile's handlebar. I'm a little unsure if I succeeded in doing a retrieval, but I assume that talking to the man could have been enough to enable a helper step in and retrieve the hunter. I'm also puzzled that I saw a bear in the winter landscape. Don't bears sleep over the winter? Did hunters in the Soviet Union have access to riflescopes? Perhaps he was wealthy as he could afford a snow mobile? WOMAN IN HOSPITAL I don't know the exact era, but perhaps it is quite a modern time, maybe the last 50 years? I'm in a hospital. A woman in her mid 50ies is laying in a bed. She is completely paralyzed from neck down and doesn't seem to have much hope of getting better. I say something to her, speak to her and also gently place my palm on her head. I tell her that she can recover. She doesn't believe me. While I talk to her to give her some support, a nurse enters the door to the room. This nurse seems very enthusiastic. The nurse immediatly tells the sick woman that there exists a new kind of treatment. The woman in the bed doesn't believe the nurse, but the nurse has so much positive attitude that I think, this will work now. I leave the room as the helper has taken over. This retrieval was very short and came as a surprise. |
Title: Re: Two men and a woman (separate retrievals) Post by Outsidecreative on May 19th, 2012 at 11:29pm
PauliEffect,
Thank you for posting your retreivals, it's nice see how other people contend with the different 'aspects of retrievals' that crop up, like incorrect dates, landmarks, historical signposts etc. It's like you start the session with a request to have some validation but afterwards, you've got nothing except a feeling you've done something good and worthwile. I’ve noticed something about my retrievals and it's that I’m very much myself. I'm always a little unsure of what to do, looking for clues etc. I don’t feel any wiser or spiritually advanced, just another guy helping someone and learning the techniques for doing so. Learning how to suspend my judgements and doubt, to allow the scene to unfold without questioning it and learn how information is received and perceived and understanding how quickly my filters comes into effect and to then reduce them. |
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