:'(I lost many a dear and close friend in the ADS epidemic of the 80's, and I am very concerned that they will not be there when I go to there.  I have always not been comfortable about what everybody has said of lifestyles, and I have always felt that I had someone looking over my shoulder, so to speak, and since I got involved with Scrying, and now Mr. Moen's work, I am sensing there IS someone beside me.  If I can continue this direction with Mr. Moen's guidance and you all's help, can I aid in the retrieval of those that did take the suicide path, knowing the eventual course of this disease? :'(

Hello Blackwolff,

When you have intent to do retrievals, you will most likely soon be doing them, maybe while sleeping. Retrievals are a natural expression of our caring for others, and it sounds like you care about the fate of your friends who have previously passed. Such caring is probably even more important than techniques or steps in 'how to do' retrievals.

Welcome to this website. It's good to hear from people like you who care.

Betson

Curious as to why you would like to focus on suicides. People usually retrieve where guides take them Are you willing to retrieve non-suicides?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59OOCGzd6fE

I lost 2 of the dearest friends a man could ever hope to have,to that dreaded plague, and many other friends, I miss deeply.  I would spend the rest of my mortal life helping them and other souls like them back to the future.  I cannot accept
that they are lost for I came so close to ending mine, when my departed once best friend came to me, in a dream one night,and told me to get a grip, and that he was not going to be the reason for my leaving this life!  I refuse to give up on them. I will not!  I do not mean to be rude, THANK YOU Betson, I appreciate what you said; you must have a caring heart.  I am so glad that I found the forum I have been searching for.  My next purchases are Mr. Moen's first 2 books,I have #3;and the guidebook and obtain his CD's.

Lucy, just watched the video you had in your response.  It made good sense.  Thank you.  Good insight from that man!

Hello Blackwolff:

My feeling is that when we die we make contact with whoever we need to make contact with.  Such needs can't always be determined by how they seem while we are still in this World.

When we rejoin the spirit World we are likely to join up with the friends we had before we incarnated into this World. We forget about them while here, but remember them quite clearly after we return to the spirit World.

Our souls have so much potential when it comes to meaningful associations with other souls. :)

Hi blackwolff,

Like others have mentioned, when we leave this reality we enter into another reality that is set up especially for people who have let go of their physical body. The purpose is to help them with their transition by making them feel as comfortable as possible.

Just because someone committed suicide does not mean they are in need of retrieval.  Retrivals are needed when one's mindset is stuck and the person is unwilling to change their mindset. For the most part our consciousness system is very benevolent, loving and patient. Very few, if any will remain stuck forever.

Kathy

Thank you.  You are right;it's just that I loved this person more than life itself, and my own humanity got in the way.  I realize now each day since I have begun this search, that he forgave me a long time ago, and I look forward with great anticipation when we come together again.  I feel since along time ago that someone was with me, but I never realized who it was.  I feel his presence more since my experiences with Scrying have begun, and now I can find the ways to communicate with him, after reading Mr. Moen's books, and the input I am receiving here! This means a lot. Thank you all very much.Your insights are important to me! :)