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Message started by PauliEffectt on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:11pm

Title: Amy Winehouse - maybe?
Post by PauliEffectt on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:11pm
RETRIEVAL Of YOUNG WOMAN


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Winehouse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Doherty


At the day 2011-11-15, I read that musician Pete Doherty thought he was haunted
by the ghost of late Amy Winehouse, who died this summer by either drugs or
alcohol or both.

P Doherty haunted here and also somewhat here. He claims to be clean from drugs..

I decided to try doing a retrieval of Winehouse and made a verbal request to
my Guides or Helpers. But things turned out in way that I didn't get the time
to do a session until 2011-11-17 (2 days later).

I lay down and made a few energy work preparations. After only 2-3 minutes
the retrieval started, which is unusual for me as it normally takes a lot
longer for things to get going.

I saw Amy Winehouse somewhat to my left. She had a white shirt and black
trousers. Wearing trousers seems unusual for Winehouse as most pictures
I've found of her, shows her wearing a short skirt or short dress, sometimes
she wears shorts.

Maybe the white shirt was kind of tied into a knot at her front stomach, but
I shall not say that I'm sure of that as my impression was not flawless.

I also felt that somewhere behind Winehouse, there were people, perhaps as
many as 4 persons, waiting for her, possible dressed in a kind of party
style she was used to.



Winehouse was not easy to deal with. But at the same time I got the feeling
that she knew that at some point in time she had to move on. She just didn't
want to do it right away, as she had unfinished business. But she also gave me
the feeling that she was not sure exactly what to do next, so maybe that was
the reason I could reach to her and engage in the retrieval. Had she not
been interested at all, I'm not sure I would have been able to convince such
a determined woman to move in any direction.

I told her that there were friends who wanted to meet her, perhaps had she
already seen them? She could look for them and move to the place they were
at.

Amy Winehouse didn't seem too convinced about my bright idea, but there was
some feeling of doubt from her side, what to do next. So she didn't completely
ignore me.
I sent PUL and continued to send PUL time after time during the retrieval and
kind of got exhausted sending PUL. Perhaps I'm a little PUL-poor person, hmff..

But I also did something I can't remember I've done before. I sent some kind
of emotions to her. Exactly what I did, I'm unsure of.

Perhaps I sent curiosity?

Perhaps the feeling of happiness?

Perhaps the feeling that "this would be fun", meaning to meet her friends?

It seemed more appropriate. Perhaps she is the kind of person you can't reach
with arguments, but feelings work?

She turned her head a little to the left in the direction of where the Helpers
were standing. But repeatedly she hesitated or seemed to turn her head back,
facing my direction.

But each time I sent PUL and did this new Emotion-Sending to her she seemed
to have turned a little more in the direction of the Helpers.

I also sent the feeling of Acceptance as I wasn't completely sure if she
could be merely an Aspect och Amy Winehouse, perhaps the "bad and dark"
side of herself?

But she seemed a little too full to be an Aspect. At the same time I've
questioned the Aspect concept. Maybe we are all Aspects of something
greater? So using the same methods on regular retrievals as on Aspects
may to some degree be justified, perhaps?

At last she turned her back to me, looking in the direction of the Helpers.
I couldn't see much of the Helpers, I just had a feeling that some of them
were at some distance from me straight ahead.

I continued sending PUL and Amy eventually seemed to leave. Perhaps she
had spotted someone well-known to her?

I watched as Winehouse ran towards the Helpers.

And now I got my familiar goose bump energy-wave feelings which normally
mark the finish of a successful retrieval.

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I wonder if the impression of Amy Winehouse in trousers and not a skirt,
was a way of her saying that she had some serious business to finish?

I also think she looked extremely healthy for just having died, so maybe
she would have transitioned on her own in due time, without any help
from an incarnated?

What puzzles me is that I was able to do the retrieval. I'm not related
to her and there must be a whole bunch of much more skilled psychic mediums
who already could have retrieved her? Or at least have tried?

It just seems unlikely that I should be that last one succeeding...


So I would like to know if anyone else reads or hears any reports about
anyone else retrieving Amy Winehouse, please let me know.

Title: Re: Amy Winehouse - maybe?
Post by betson on Nov 26th, 2011 at 7:03am
Hi Pauli,

Amy Winehouse is such a perfect example to me of the archetypal Fallen Woman. I'm not putting her down, she was amazingly talented musically and personally seemed to get it all together, just too late for her body to get back into a healthy state.

Didn't you previously report an ominous dark-haired woman  in your dream?  What I'm wondering is if you need to stay too involved with Winehouse specifics and can instead 'forgive' this archetype that has come up again?  Imo you don't even have to know where it came from or why. Just emphasize the process of freeing her by offering  your good will.
I know you already retrieved her but you had so many questions attached that maybe the process for you isn't quite completed. In my experience such answers come gradually, "are revealed" when times are right, not all dumped down at once.  :)


Title: Re: Amy Winehouse - maybe?
Post by gordon phinn on Jan 1st, 2012 at 2:45pm
Sounds like a "real" retrieval to me Paul.  I"ve executed quite a few on music people who i suspected were held back by their party animal lifestyles.  Most of the reports are on youtube: (www.youtube.com/thewordofgord)

The details and sensations you felt fit right in with many experiences of my own.  Yes, the whole "aspects" issue is a complex and fascinating situation, and I, despite many years experience in this stuff, could not say I've plumbed the depths yet.   But don't let it put you off.  Just go with your gut instincts.  If you suspect someone needs retrieved, they probably do.

best wishes, gordon (thewordofgord)

Title: Re: Amy Winehouse - maybe?
Post by PauliEffectt on Jan 6th, 2012 at 6:01am
Just a little follow-up.

On 2012-01-03, while on the toilet, I am wondering what happened to Amy W, when I suddenly can sense her presence. She repeatedly thanks me, so apparently she has made it to Focus 27, at least that's my guess. I think she stays near me for more than a minute, and she appears really thankful too the degree that I'm not completely sure what to do, but I say she is welcome. She really is more warm and soft compared to the media images I've sometimes got, when she still was alive.

Two days later (Jan 5th), in the evening I can again sense her or some kind of avatar of Amy W, someone who is a little more businesslike, at least that's my first impression. Then I ask to "anyone", where she is, as I expect her to be in Focus 27, I also expect to get that kind of response, but instead I get "more kind of Focus 26".

I try asking some questions of my own to Amy W and I get some guide-like responses, so I'm guessing the vision of Amy W I get is more of the kind of Avatar Guide vision I sometimes get. (I'll keep those questions and the answers I got for myself.)

Then I see Amy W in a slightly more wild party mood, she's wearing one of her short party dresses, and I get the feeling she is somewhere in a Party Zone. I look for one of my guides, who shows up and answers me by stating "she's in Focus 26".

So my guess is that maybe Amy W reached Focus 27, but for the moment she is mostly spending her time in the Focus 26 Party Zone, as she has gravitated to an area where she feels more at home.

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