I am going to be producing hemi sync and meta music-infused affirmation tracks for accelerated spiritual development.  I am currently comprising a list of affirmations to use in the various tracks, so I would like to open this thread up for contributions of any affirmations you believe would be helpful. 

For my own personal use, I will be listening to these tracks basically in any situation that I am not required to use my mind for a specific task(ie traveling here and there, running errands, household activities, ect..).  I have yet to completely control my thoughts, as I will catch myself in a stream of unnecessary past or future-projected thinking now and then throughout my day, and I want to put an end to this useless mind chatter once and for all and have a complete focus on the fulfillment of my highest spiritual unfoldment. 

The idea is to totally reprogram my subconscious so that I think only these thoughts when my mind is not actively engaged in completing necessary tasks or fulfilling creations.  And even then, I want these thoughts to be at least in the back of my mind at all times, until I am so used to being in resonance with these thoughts that the thoughts themselves are no longer needed, as their energy will be continuously pumped from my subconscious.

These are the ones I have chosen so far:

I live in a continuous and never-ending state of divine love

I am continuously experiencing deeper and deeper pure unconditional love

I live in a continuous state of pure joy and happiness

I focus on love and compassion in every situation

I only entertain positive, harmonious, beneficial, and loving thoughts and feelings

I only manifest that which is positive, harmonious, beneficial, and loving into my life and the lives of others

I express myself fully and in accordance to pure unconditional love in each and every moment

I live in accordance to divine will

Every day in every way I am getting better and better

I accept myself deeply and completely

I accept all forms deeply and completely

I accept all life deeply and completely

I accept all situations and circumstances deeply and completely

I accept the moment deeply and completely

I consciously live in a state of divine grace

I live in total awareness of the moment

I live in total awareness of my spiritual power

I am constantly becoming more and more aware of the highest energies of my inner divine self

I live in total awareness of the highest energies of my inner divine self

I am constantly becoming more and more attuned with my higher self

I live in complete attunement with my higher self

I am open and receptive to receive guidance and direction from my higher self

I am spiritually awakening to a greater and greater degree

I am in touch with the divinity within me

All of my actions benefit the greater good

Every day I am living out my soul's purpose to a greater and greater degree

As I grow spiritually I help others to grow spiritually as well

My higher self provides everything I need and desire to better my life and the lives of others

My divine nature is being revealed to me to a greater and greater degree each and every moment

I am a conscious channel for my higher self to be expressed

I have full access to the all mighty source of divine power within me

My ego is surrendered to my higher self

My physical body and mind are clear channels for my higher self to manifest my true divinity into this world

My higher self dictates my thoughts and actions, therefore my thoughts and actions are always right and in accordance with divine will, and always benefit the greater good

_______________________

I have already made affirmation tracks to induce lucid dreaming and out of body experiences.  I plan on making all of the tracks available for everyone to use.  If anyone has ideas for anything else I may be able to create that will be of benefit, feel free to let me know.   :) 

I look forward to hearing your affirmations!  Even if it is a statement with the same idea as one I already have and just worded differently, that would be great.  Perhaps you can think of more efficient ways of saying what I am trying to say. 

I haven't done any affirmations, yet I've been able to increase the degree to which I live according to love.

I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love, rather than repeating phrases.

If you understand about the importance and value of living according to love your mind will be reprogrammed more naturally.

I believe affirmations are important to the extent they help us remember to live according to love during daily situations. But understanding about the importance and value of love and repeating phrases isn't the same thing.

If a person repeats phrases and there is no depth behind the repetition, they won't matter much. They won't be anyting more than hollow thoughts. How many people repeat "praise Jesus" without knowing what he is about?

On the other hand, if a person allows himself to deeply feel how valuable it is to love another, this will have much more impact than repeating a phrase.

What's also important is dealing with the issues and beliefs that get in the way of love. For example, if a person holds onto inner anger towards somebody, this will cause him to have a heart chakra block.  The same is true with a fear or a judgmental belief system. Also, guilt that is held onto can get in the way of self love.

The closest thing to affirmations I do is remeber. If I find myself off track I remember what my existence is truly about. But this isn't an assertion, it is a matter of remembering what is true.

It is also important to remember that sometimes people assert one thing because they don't want to become aware of what else is going on. In a way, such a practice is similar to ignoring a pile of bills that exist within one's room, by choosing to not look at the table they are located on. This might help a person feel good on a temporary basis, but eventually he will have to take care of the bills.

On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with setting the intent to do something. But how far does one have to go to do so? Perhaps what is necessary for going OBE and growing in love isn't quite the same thing.

recoverer,
"I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love, rather than repeating phrases."

I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love
I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love
I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love
I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love
I believe it is more about understanding the importance and value of living according to love

"If a person repeats phrases and there is no depth behind the repetition, they won't matter much."

I get what you're saying.

"How many people repeat "praise Jesus" without knowing what he is about?"

Who knows what praising anybody is really about?

"The closest thing to affirmations I do is remeber. If I find myself off track I remember what my existence is truly about. But this isn't an assertion, it is a matter of remembering what is true."

What's is true?

"This might help a person feel good on a temporary basis, but eventually he will have to take care of the bills."

Talking about love & loving?

Volu!

It is so loving of you to offer to pay my bills.

I affirm:

"Volu will pay my bills."
"Volu will pay my bills."
"Volu will pay my bills."
"Volu will pay my bills."

;D

If anybody is having financial problems remember the phrase:

"Volu will pay my bills."

Recoverer

Unfortunately your affirmation isn't going to make the list  ::)

But yes, it is important to deal with the inner cause of any issue rather than to attempt to hide it or erase it without putting the inner work in. 

It is also important to put as much positive feeling behind affirmations as possible, envisioning and feeling that the affirmation is already true, and releasing any attachment to the outcome, putting complete faith in the higher self to manifest the result.  Stating affirmations while believing it will never be true will render them useless- one must have faith, and this faith can be gained by learning of the great success many people have had in transforming their lives by changing their unhealthy mental habits. 

However, it is possible through thinking empowering and loving thoughts, to align oneself with the energy of these thoughts and hence transform the negative energy that was being held on to, as what entering a state of divine love will likely do. 

For example, if one feels unworthy because they were told they were not good enough as a kid, they will think unworthy thoughts.  But if this person makes the habit of replacing their unworthy thoughts with positive, loving thoughts of self worth, they will begin to shift into alignment with the energy of their new thought pattern, and will begin to experience that positive, loving, worthy energy.  After all, our feelings and emotions are generated by our thoughts.  The more they experience this new energy of love and worth, the more they will gain firsthand experience of the true source of their worth- they will realize that their worth actually came from within and cannot be dictated by anything outside of themselves, and it was a matter of wrong thinking that caused their unhealthy mental and emotional state.  They will be cured by their affirmation. 

Nearly all ailments are the result of wrong thinking.  So it makes sense that the problem should be corrected at the source- the thought.  Replace an old thought pattern with a new, more beneficial thought pattern, and the truth of the new way of thinking will be apparent and the old pattern will need not be looked back upon.  :)

If one does not understand the importance of living according to love, what better way of learning that importance than by experiencing its truth firsthand?  You can't experience an internal state without having thoughts that are aligned with that state.  Affirmations cause the subconscious programing of conscious thought patterns in accordance with the nature of the affirmation.

Of course, I did not want this to become a debate on affirmations, although I saw it coming from a mile away. ::)  Those who doubt the effectiveness of affirmations to induce real change have either never given them a try or did not use them correctly, and have a faulty understanding of the mechanics of the mind. 

Words are very powerful !

Dude:

First of all, most of the affirmations you listed sound like good goals to have.

Second, I agree with much of what you wrote on your second post. If one meditates and sets the intent to live more according to love, this is a good thing.

I question the value of using a tape because I doubt that intent can be applied at the same time.

Regarding a person who has self worth issues because he was told as a kid that he isn't worthy, I believe he will need to find that the people who told him such a thing were wrong. When he really sees this he won't need to affirm his worth. Of course he can become aware of his worth simply by observing it.

You wouldn't be seeking to grow in love if you didn't already understand about the value in doing so. So perhaps if you became more conscious of that part of yourself affirmation would become less necessary.

In a way, when we affirm something to ourself we also affirm the opposite, because why would we need to affirm something positive if we didn't believe that the opposite is true?

Debate? Discussion? Which applies?

Quote:

So perhaps if you became more conscious of that part of yourself affirmation would become less necessary.

Hehe, but this is the reason for the affirmation!  The affirmation is a way to increase awareness of that part of myself, a mental tool which has the potential to reprogram the subconscious mind so that reminders are no longer needed because the new program is complete divine will. 

One becomes conscious of something through the mind.  So here we're using a tool that puts the driving force of the mind in our control.

My goal is to become fully God-realized.  Fully Christ-like.  To have not one thought out of alignment with the divine truth.  And for others to reach this state as well. 

As for the "tapes" (what is this the 80's?!? LOL) and their value, simply listening to the affirmation recordings is a statement of intent.  Hearing the affirmations verbally keeps the mind focused on the intent and may even increase its power, as there is that extra auditory input included to amplify the thought.  The brainwave entrainment that backs the affirmations puts the mind in a deeper level to become more receptive to the suggestions.   8-)

Here are some affirmations I am adding to the list:

I am pure unconditional love

My energy body is in perfect health and is free of blockages

Divine energy flows freely though all aspects of my being

I am surrounded by benevolent spirit guides of the highest vibration of love and light who assist me in all ways to evolve to higher states of consciousness

:)

There is a sacrifice I make (I won't get into the details) because I believe it serves the greater good. Because I made and make this sacrifice it has enabled me to become more involved with the greater good, Christ consciousness. This was a matter of establishing my priorities, rather than affirming something.

Such growth is something that is largely done at the heart level.  It is deeper than a collection of repeated thoughts.

In order to grow more I feel as if I need to give myself to the greater good more than I have.  I don't believe I can do so by repeating a collection of thoughts. If anyting, I feel the need by connecting to universal mind and considering all of the factors in play, and this is followed by related thoughts. Since the inner experience comes first, thoughts are secondary.

Nevertheless, I'm going to pick a few of Dude's affirmations, use them while meditating, and see how it goes.

Quote:

This was a matter of establishing my priorities, rather than affirming something.

Synonymously you could say, you affirmed what your priorities were.  This is true, as to affirm is to state something as fact.  ;)


Quote:

Such growth is something that is largely done at the heart level.  It is deeper than a collection of repeated thoughts.

One can entertain thoughts which support heart-level growth, or thoughts which block such growth.  The purpose of these affirmations is to support it, to open up the pathways to it.  :)  Thoughts are the catalyst for all growth. 


Quote:

If anyting, I feel the need by connecting to universal mind and considering all of the factors in play, and this is followed by related thoughts. Since the inner experience comes first, thoughts are secondary.

And yet, it requires thoughts of a specific nature to decide to connect, and more thoughts to consider and analyze the factors in play. 

The idea behind these affirmations is to bypass the need to connect to the universal mind by living in a state in which one is constantly in tune with it. 

Word!

'I am surrounded by benevolent spirit guides of the highest vibration of love and light who assist me in all ways to evolve to higher states of consciousness.'

Even though recoverer's excellent mantra which shows everything doesn't happen according to will didn't make it on your list, I'm right here to assist you to evoluve, Dude.

'My ego is surrendered to my higher self'

You mentioned a kid feeling unworthy, basically describing someone with a broken ego whom gets to know about the lack of it, even if it would turn out ego in the long run was just a temporary learning tool. Since you want to surrender it, I wonder what ego is to you?

Thank you kind and benevolent spirit guide!   :)

By ego, I mean the aspect of my consciousness that is physically focused, and by surrendering my ego to my higher self, I mean aligning the physically focused aspect of my consciousness with my higher consciousness in a way that I am conscious of the divine aspect of my being while still physically focused and live totally in accordance with my higher self.

  Albert, when Monroe first started his experiments with his explorers, they were having some nonphysical experiences and perceptions, but there was little to no contact with guidance consciousnesses.  Not much was seeming to happen.

  After he created what later become known as the Gateway affirmation, so much opened up for the explorers and they were having a lot of communication with guidance consciousnesses.   It's interesting how much changed based on just a few paragraphs of words and the explorers stating them before each session.

  I will write more later on this subject, as it's a pretty vast and both complex and simple one at the same time. 

  For now, i'm kind of inbetween the middle of you and Dude on this subject.

   To put it concisely for now, affirmations can help, but only as long as the different levels are you are actually supporting same in other ways. 

Quote:

affirmations can help, but only as long as the different levels are you are actually supporting same in other ways.

This sentence was very weird to me.  Maybe one too many "are"s?  LOL.  Perhaps you can clarify. 

Plain and simply, this is why affirmations are important: 

To affirm something is to state your intent as fact.  You state it to yourself, you state it to the universe, you state it to God.  This sets the creative universal energies in motion to manifest this intent.  It is a declaration of power, divinity, and truth. 

Many keep their affirmations on a subconscious level or in there unconscious thoughts, thinking the same unproductive untruths daily as if on autopilot, and as a result manifest that which they do not want, failing to see the true connection between their mental activity and their outer circumstances and creations.  By bringing these affirmations to the conscious level, one brings the power of creation into their conscious control.  Eventually these conscious affirmations replace the old negative affirmations on the subconscious level, and with the new program comes a new reality. 

Consider the below affirmation that Dude wrote.

"I am surrounded by benevolent spirit guides of the highest vibration of love and light who assist me in all ways to evolve to higher states of consciousness"

Whether or not this is true isn't based on making an affirmation.  The availability of such guides is more a matter of how much a person applies himself and makes himself available for service that isn't about sitting at the front of audience, having fans and earning money. Friendly guides don't have to show up just because we affirm that they are there.

I figure there are some people who said an affirmation that served the purpose of allowing them to channel a positive being, and then they ended up channeling a deceptive being. Perhaps there are occasions when benevolent beings hope that we will use our discrimination.

What if benevolent beings don't believe it would be purposeful to have a particular person be their voice piece for numerous people? Perhaps they don't believe it would be appropriate for a person to charge people $200.00 an hour for words that come from benevolent beings. (I chose $200.00 because this is what Paul Selig charges.) If a person is stubborn about it and continues to try to channel despite the above factors, perhaps he might end up channeling somebody other than a benevolent being. Perhaps benevolent beings allow overly eager and nondicriminating people to channel deceptive beings so they'll unfortunately learn the hard way. Read Joe Fischer's "Siren Calls of Hungry Ghosts" to see how often people are deceived by the beings they channel.

If benevolent guides are always there, then an affirmation isn't needed.

Whatever the case, I wouldn't play a tape that makes the kind of affirmation being discussed because I believe there is much more to being a good match for a benevolent spirit guide than repeating an affirmation. I say this after considering the numerous reasons for which I have been able to connect with benevolent spirit beings.

There are occasions when affirmations are "a part" of a person manifesting intent.

Quote:

Many keep their affirmations on a subconscious level or in there unconscious thoughts, thinking the same unproductive untruths daily as if on autopilot, and as a result manifest that which they do not want, failing to see the true connection between their mental activity and their outer circumstances and creations.  By bringing these affirmations to the conscious level, one brings the power of creation into their conscious control.  Eventually these conscious affirmations replace the old negative affirmations on the subconscious level, and with the new program comes a new reality.

Now, keeping the above in mind..


Quote:

"I am surrounded by benevolent spirit guides of the highest vibration of love and light who assist me in all ways to evolve to higher states of consciousness" Whether or not this is true isn't based on making an affirmation.  The availability of such guides is more a matter of how much a person applies himself and makes himself available for service that isn't about sitting at the front of audience, having fans and earning money. Friendly guides don't have to show up just because we affirm that they are there.

And so what does it take to apply oneself and make themselves available for service?  Is it not by aligning oneself to the vibration of reception and service, first through one's thoughts, which then lead to action?  Yes indeed.  Affirmations are the thoughts that will lead to this very alignment and fulfillment. 

There are some who are open to help from higher powers, and others who shut the doors to it due to a continuous stream of negative affirmations via their thoughts and subconscious programming.  Essentially any thought that one entertains and believes is true is an affirmation.  So what this affirmation will do is align oneself to the vibration in which this higher assistance is accepted and fully manifested.  You may be forgetting that the thoughts you think about your receptiveness to higher sources are in fact affirmations.  You may think, "I have contact with my guides and I don't need affirmations to have it," and so this is your affirmation.  Your statement of truth.  Of course as it seems, you obviously do not need to have an understanding of affirmations to use them.   :D

I believe it is important to remember that it is possible to have thoughts without truly understanding what they mean, or without being defined by them in some way.

One of the reasons I was able to make contact is because I've voluteered my self for a certain kind of spirit work. My volunteering was based on an understanding of what is needed, not on repeating thoughts that have no depth. Because I have the understanding I have, there in no need to repeat thoughts that can seem to be related, even if they lack depth.

The fact of how one person can tell another that he (or she) loves this other person without meaning it, shows how shallow words can be.

I agree that we need to negate limiting beliefs, but repeating the opposite won't do the trick.

A lady who was a member of the guru-based group I used to belong to comes to mind. She used to tell people how much she loves the guru we saw.  She seemed assertive and this was for a good reason. She had doubts about the guru that she didn't want to acknowledge so she affirmed the opposite. Eventually she allowed herself to see how she really felt about the guru and left him.

Well, I've pretty much said all I care to say about the subject.  I'll make a final post.  If you don't want to use affirmations to your advantage, that is your choice.  You can apply circumstances where one does not use them correctly and say that they do not work, but this does not change the fact that they have worked for myself and countless others.  I do not want to prove to you that they work so much as I want to make sure you do not dissuade anyone from using these effective tools that have improved the lives of so many. 

Perhaps you do not realize that beliefs are simply thought patterns that have become adopted by an individual as truth.  But false beliefs are not created out of an understanding of truth, and so this alone proves that an deep understanding is not necessary for the creation and/or eradication of a belief system, so as you have been saying that the understanding is what is most important, we can see that this is not the case.  Understanding is certainly helpful, but obviously it is the thoughts that contain the power.  The understanding and/or lack thereof is what directs the thoughts to create.  We are basically brainwashed into many of our belief systems from a young age without any real understanding of any of it.  We are told what to think and this shapes our belief system.  This proves just how powerful the thoughts are, even when they are not backed by anything substantial.  And this is why affirmations work even when they oppose what one may believe to be true. 

Here are some excellent articles which explain why and how affirmations work.  And yes, there is even hard science to back it up.  These are for our audience, Recoverer, as I don't expect you will change your way of thinking.  But, that is fine.  :)

http://affirmativethinking.wordpress.com/science-of-affirmations-proof/
http://www.vitalaffirmations.com/affirmations.htm
http://www.self-improvement-mentor.com/why-affirmations-work.html

I Am Dude wrote on Nov 21^st, 2011 at 8:13pm:

Quote: affirmations can help, but only as long as the different levels are you are actually supporting same in other ways. This sentence was very weird to me.  Maybe one too many "are"s?  LOL.  Perhaps you can clarify.  Plain and simply, this is why affirmations are important:  To affirm something is to state your intent as fact.  You state it to yourself, you state it to the universe, you state it to God.  This sets the creative universal energies in motion to manifest this intent.  It is a declaration of power, divinity, and truth.  Many keep their affirmations on a subconscious level or in there unconscious thoughts, thinking the same unproductive untruths daily as if on autopilot, and as a result manifest that which they do not want, failing to see the true connection between their mental activity and their outer circumstances and creations.  By bringing these affirmations to the conscious level, one brings the power of creation into their conscious control.  Eventually these conscious affirmations replace the old negative affirmations on the subconscious level, and with the new program comes a new reality.

  I did not have time to proof read my post and yes there are too many are's in there. 

  It should read, "affirmations can help, but only as long as the different levels OF you are actually supporting same in other ways." 

  Basically, i agree with both you and Albert here.  I've used affirmations, i know they can help, and they have helped me, but to some extent they are just another prop. 

  I find most of my growth occurs spontaneously, often in facing daily challenges, stresses, and choosing constructively in such situations.  Particularly often in emotional tests with my partner, jobs, and health (or lack thereof) experiences.

  I use to be really into crystals and gemstones, as well, to a lesser extent affirmations, and while they are apples and oranges in comparison, they are still both props and both can definitely help, again if there is the real inner desire and support on the various levels of self supporting. 

  Sometimes affirmations can be unhelpful or rather, just a waste of time and energy.   

For an example, one might think that such an affirmation like, "my body is strong, healthy and completely balanced" might be a great one.  Perhaps they are already fairly healthy, but want more health etc.

  Yet, it could be that that same person's higher self, decides that what might facilitate the most spiritual growth for their personality self is to experience a debilitating illness of some kind.  In such a case, isn't the soon to be sick person kind of wasting their time and energy when saying such affirmations, when in 4 months their body will be come majority imbalanced for spiritual growth purposes? 

Sometimes there is a lack of humility in more specific affirmations--sometimes these would be more constructive if they were turned into prayers such as, "not my will be done, but the will of the Creative forces."  or, "lead me Creative forces, show me the way." or "Please bring to my conscious awareness that which would be most spiritually helpful for me and my influence on the Whole to become aware of." 

This shows awareness and humility that the personality self doesn't necessarily know what's best for itself and is willing to be led by sources more intune than the personality level (these can be within or without, in a sense).
 
  I find more open ended and spiritually oriented affirmations tend to be more universally helpful.  For example, often when i meditate, i say something to myself like, "I deeply desire and ask to communicate with and attune to only the most spiritually helpful, loving, aware consciousnesses.  I deeply desire and ask for their help, direction and guidance." 

   This helps me to connect to these, but what helps even more in the experience and remembering of love.  I use the two in combination.  This, i know, assures that i will get guidance from only that level. 

  It's possible that i could state such an affirmation, but then later have some unloving thoughts and feelings and with not attuning to PUL, i could tune more into less constructive and aware levels even though i stated the affirmation before.  Stating such an affirmation should not lull me into a false sense of security or belief of, "i can't be influenced by unhelpful sources", when if i did have negative, limiting thoughts or feelings, it certainly can tune me into non PUL attuned sources and levels quite quickly, automatically,  and unconsciously on my part.   It would be helpful to still keep a sense of discrimination, testing, and feeling out.

  It's all about balance Vincent.  Too much focus on, and power given to, affirmations can lead to the lazy man's approach to spiritual growth.  There are no short cuts in spiritual growth, but there are helpful props and tools which can facilitate awareness some.  It's what you do and choose with the awareness that really matters and determines the actual growth. 

 

Quote:

It's all about balance Vincent.  Too much focus on, and power given to, affirmations can lead to the lazy man's approach to spiritual growth.  There are no short cuts in spiritual growth, but there are helpful props and tools which can facilitate awareness some.  It's what you do and choose with the awareness that really matters and determines the actual growth.

Absolutely.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not sitting around stating affirmations all day.  LOL.  But I do utilize them and appreciate their value as the tools that they are.  In reality, affirmations are basically nothing more(or should I say, nothing less) than the constructive use of our thoughts.  Pretty powerful stuff when used properly.

A moment ago I stated the affirmation, "My chakras are in perfect health and alignment."  Instantly I became aware of the energy flowing through them, and experienced state of great well being and peace inside that flowed with the energy through my circuit.  Just from one affirmation.  One thought.  What you focus your attention on, you bring to yourself/create. 

Affirmative. Glad to read some pretty darn good and balanced posts on the subject.

Dude,
"What you focus your attention on, you bring to yourself/create."

The attention is focused on the forum and more words. You're welcome all.

Experiences on this big rock basically follow the same flow as the basic ones the beings have in the place monroe dubbed as home. The fluffsters focus on sound and vision, both which are repeating in loops.  Here there are way more varied experiences available, they do indeed repeat until mastered, and we're eased into the complexity by the living concept of being a child. The result of all these repeating experiences is that each step walked around the various concepts we're here to gain knowledge about act as affirmations and sparks of hope - mastering that which at one time may have been deemed impossible, figuring out more than dreamt possible even just one year ago - that we're getting there, wherever and whenever that is.

Just to show how open minded I am, I came up with an affirmation for myself.

"I will not believe in affirmations."

"I will not believe in affirmations."

"I will not believe in affirmations."

  ;D

If affirmations help a person set intent, fine.  I figure that not all people use them in a robotic way. But I believe Justin does. ;D

Dude said: "A moment ago I stated the affirmation, "My chakras are in perfect health and alignment."  Instantly I became aware of the energy flowing through them, and experienced state of great well being and peace inside that flowed with the energy through my circuit.  Just from one affirmation.  One thought.  What you focus your attention on, you bring to yourself/create."

Recoverer responds: "Maybe it was a matter of your higher self/spirit guidance becoming aware of your intent when you made an affirmation, and they responded accordingly. There have been occassions when I showed the intent to get rid of a blockage and without making an affirmation received help.

Programming ourselves with a repeated thought and showing intent isn't the same thing.

Looks like I haven't quite had enough yet  :)


Quote:

Programming ourselves with a repeated thought and showing intent isn't the same thing.

It is the exact same thing.  You are not going to program yourself for a specific purpose if you do not have the intent on making that purpose manifest.  Affirmations are statements of intent.  It is possible to make an affirmation with varying degrees of intent, but just the fact that the affirmation was made shows some degree of intent.


Quote:

Maybe it was a matter of your higher self/spirit guidance becoming aware of your intent when you made an affirmation, and they responded accordingly.

There is no difference, and no need to separate.  When you place intent, what you do is you think a specific thought that you intend to manifest.  In other words, you state an affirmation.  You affirm to yourself in some way, shape, or form that your intent is to be carried out.  It is the same thing.  So yes, my higher self became aware of the intent of my affirmation.  The intent and the affirmation are two interconnected aspects of the process of creation.  You cannot set intent without some kind of mental activity, without making the decision to do so, that I am aware of.  Even the use of pure feelings to place an intent requires the mental activity of affirming that the feeling will bring about the desired result.  Thoughts do not always need to be worded out, this is true, but then neither do affirmations. 


Quote:

There have been occassions when I showed the intent to get rid of a blockage and without making an affirmation received help.

No one has said that the conscious practice of worded affirmations is crucial to receiving guidance and assistance from higher powers, and yet since to call upon such guidance and place the intent to receive it requires some form of thought, it is most likely the case that you did make an affirmation to receive it, whether it was a silent one, or even a nonverbal one. 

You are being awfully difficult here Senior Recoverbert!  You seem to be trying to avoid the unavoidable outcome of this thread, which is that affirmations in one way or another are the foundation of our lives.  This is obvious when one realizes that our thoughts are affirmations that we silently and constantly make, that our belief systems are actually repeated affirmations that we have convinced ourselves are true, and that what we experience is dictated by what we think and believe.   

So you say that affirmations(in the traditional sense, being statements that are repeated over and over again)are not needed to produce a desired experience or result, and I say(and I believe have in one way or another proved) that affirmations are much deeper then the shallow phrases you have defined them as.  :-*

The power of magic is often thought of as being unreal.  Quite the opposite is true, and there are and have been mages, shamans, and healers throughout history for very good reasons.

Intent tied to belief causes manifestation of the result into our reality.  The spoken word, tied into intent and belief is a most potent Talisman.  It moves with breath or prana (as the Hindus called it), and is grounded to our physical bodies with the vibration of our vocal cords. 

Dave-MBS, a most enlightened soul who is in the afterlife now, would talk on this very forum about binding your intent, to words, and to an object in the physical world.   By doing so, he would say you have created a "three-legged" spell.  So you state an intent (affirmation), you believe it, and feel the belief while relaxed, and then ground it to the real world through an action (drinking a vial of liquid, or writing down the affirmation and then committing it to fire/flame)   

Very powerful, when you impress your subconscious connection to the universe with these things.  You focus your intent in a strong way.

So yeah, affirmations are useful, powerful, not robotic (unless you allow them to be), and one more tool to express yourself.  When tied to meditation, belief and right action, they are a useful tool at that.

Matthew

Doc seems to be pointing in the direction of doing more than just repeating a thought.

Consider how I overcame the fear of unfriendly spirits. Much more was involved than I wrote in my book "A Night in Heaven." I would have these very intense experiences with actual unfriendly beings, and afterwards   "acknowledge"  or should I say   "affirm" to myself how everything worked out fine. 

It was useful to acknowledge/affirm in such a way. But if such acknowledgment/affirmation wasn't backed by experience, I don't believe it would've worked. The experience itself means so much more than mere words.

I understand that Dude has it mind to back up his affirmations with more than the words he says; nevertheless, I've taken the path on this thread I took, partly because I've known of cases when people used affirmations in an ineffective way. Some of these people used affirmations that they received from their cult leaders. They affirmed things that didn't have any actual value.

To tell you the truth I don't like how this conversation worked out because in order to state how affirmations have their limitations I might've understated how some people have used them with success.

Speaking on a thread and speaking in person doesn't quite work out the same way. Justin and I have spoken to each other and we believe that sometimes we have gotten too pushy on threads. This is quite contrary to how it is when we speak to each other. If you spoke to Justin you would see that he is "so" not pushy. Quite the opposite.

I affirm, "I will do better with internet discussions in the future." ;) Wish me luck.

Dude,

it would be interesting to know if the effect of listening to taped affirmations would vary depending on whether oneself is the speaker or someone else is the speaker. Have you any findings regarding that?

Spooky

Spooky

I have a related query which I asked Robert Bruce recently, as he seems to have much knowledge and experience on the subject(he still hasn't gotten back to me yet), which is, would it be more effective to use "you," or "I" for the recorded affirmations.  As in, "you experience love every moment," or "I experience love every moment."  Perhaps some people take commands better than they listen to themselves, in which case "you" may be more effective, if the speaker is someone else that is. 

But I mostly feel that it would be most effective overall to have your own voice and using the "I" form of the affirmations.  Maybe if it is another speaker and they are saying "I this" and "I that," the listener will not feel as if the statements are truly directed at themselves.

Others I have asked on similar forums believe using "I" is more effective in general.  Believe it or not, this topic was not lead into a discussion on the validity of affirmations on other forums ::), but instead went in the direction it was intended to and input was able to be given regarding the specific task at hand by those who have experience.   A good indication of the effectiveness of the affirmation is how it makes you feel as you are repeating it or as it is being repeated to you.  I find that the most effective affirmations arouse feelings of truth and joy in me. 

Dude said: "Believe it or not, this topic was not lead into a discussion on the validity of affirmations on other forums"

Recoverer responds: "Well, I'm glad I could be original. :) Imagine that, a person who is willing to question the substantiality of affirmations.

It is important to remember that when it comes to spiritual growth we aren't robots that can be programmed. True knowledge is so much deeper than programming ourselves.

True knowledge and psychological conditioning is not the same thing.

If it is simply a matter of programming our minds, then perhaps we should throw our hearts out the window. What I've learned through my heart is so much more important that repeating words.

I have to say that it is a bit upsetting that people aren't acknowledging how important experience is, and that repeated thoughts aren't the same thing.

Some will say they are just stating intent, but how does listening to a repetitious tape relate to experience?

I don't care about testimonies. Plenty of cult-members have given testimonies. My own experience and intuition means much more to me than testimonies. Perhaps people make a mistake when they rely on testimonies rather than looking deep within.

Quote:

I have to say that it is a bit upsetting that people aren't acknowledging how important experience is, and that repeated thoughts aren't the same thing. Some will say they are just stating intent, but how does listening to a repetitious tape relate to experience?

We aren't listening to a tape.  We are listening to an mp3 on our iPhone!  Duh!   ;D


But seriously.  This is how affirmations relate to experience:  Say you want to have an experience of some form of personal growth.  But maybe you entertain certain programmed notions that prevent this growth from occurring.  What do you do?  You get to the root of the problem, the program, and you change it.  Affirmations are a tool which allows this to occur. 

The practice of repeating statements until they are absorbed by the subconscious mind is not the only way for the program to be rewritten, but it does work.  Either way, affirmations of some kind will have to be used to change the program, which is based in affirmations(thoughts).  You cannot have an experience if you entertain affirmations which do not allow it.  If the affirmation one uses to induce growth is not based in experience because the old program has blocked that experience from occurring, the new program will allow for the experience to take place, and then you will have your experience. 

Say a person has entertained affirmations of hatred his whole life.  He decides to change, and starts using affirmations of love instead.  Soon the entire way he thinks is radically changed and he can now experience the love he has brought to himself through his thoughts. 

I will add that I do believe it is important to get to the root of the problem as deeply as possible, and so ideally affirmations will be done for specific past events which caused the initiation and fortification of the false belief system. 

I will also add that an understanding to back the affirmations is even more helpful, but still unnecessary for the reasons I have stated in my previous posts.   

I will add one more thing, that an understanding alone will not necessarily facilitate change, especially if the false belief system is deeply routed in the subconscious.  The mental work may still need to be done to rewrite the false programming, which is why someone can know one thing and yet think and do things which are completely in opposition to it.

But since you are so against them!  Why don't you present a practical way that one can facilitate this personal growth without the use of affirmations!?  Don't knock down a faulty foundation if you're not going to rebuild it!  (Of course, in this case the foundation seems to be quite sturdy)  ;)


Quote:

Imagine that, a person who is willing to question the substantiality of affirmations.

Not too difficult to imagine actually, especially since the person has no substantial experience with them.