Hi all,

yesterday I had a conversation with a guide, I was in awake state, jogging and walking on a mountain path - I recognized the guide as being the same that I had conversations with before, once every few years or so.
He was pushing me to work more on my psychic development, and I was asking some questions and getting answers. I often have many deep questions on reality, and the guide answers then clearly and precisely, and often presents unusual concepts which are difficult to grasp and feel abstract (you could also say 'weird'), although they feel logical and realistic and reasonable somehow.

I had some more or less similar experiences of being taught or being in a sort of school in dream state, and then it was also a different sort of dream than normal, but since I don't write things down, I quickly forget details.

Question 1: Do you reckon this forum is an appropriate place to discuss such matters at all, I'm not sure because 1. it is not exactly related to afterlife, but to 'otherlife', and 2. the communications take place not in a special practice but in a 'corner' of 'normal awake' consciousness, and there are no practices to undertake, only a certain focus of attentiveness.

The contents of the communications, or the insights received, or whatever is experienced, where would we share it appropriately, in which forum, or would it need a specialized forum, maybe a new one, for such contents?

I have a general feeling that the 'afterlife' - or maybe is there a better word? - is always present, and that communication is always possible, and that on the 'other side' out there are many spirit friends who watch us and work with us, and maybe this could be taken into 'awake-conscious' reality as practical cooperative enhanced reality.
I'm sure that many here know what I'm talking of, it is only often a matter of verbalizing and communicating and speaking out the facts that would question the traditionally accepted rigidness and isolation of our physical reality structure.

So what to do about it? Talk it out aloud or keep it to oneself? And write it in one thread in this forum and expand on it in this one thread, or have several threads, one for each spirit guide communication that was experienced and wants to be communicated and discussed in forum here?

I also have a concern and shyness about talking of the contents of such communications because they could 'rattle the cage' or put one in a reality crisis, I think this should not be taken lightly, one can get problems with maintaining a 'normal' view of reality.
For example, I feel as if I have to consciously shut off a lot of impressions that could come in now, because it is like too much noise, I react emotional on it, and feels like too much energy for what I normally am used to. If one gets easily disturbed by such things and does not know how to shut off perception channels, then one could get into problems.
Remember the apprentice sorcerer who found out how to call spirits but could not get rid of them. It really needs a well-grounded personality to stay mentally healthy when enhancing reality views.

Love :-)

Hello  :)

Starting with your last comment, your Guide will slow down if you ask It to. I've been overwhelmed also and found that once I put my request for less input into words, it was accepted.-- Then weeks later I wonder why nothing is happening on that front and have to remember to make a new request for guidance.  :)

You've asked many questions so I'll just refer to one for now. Regarding this site, your experiences are definitely appropriate for discussion here. "Afterlife" is a designation for a broad range of phenomena, and discussions here sometimes bring out a broad range of answers. No one has an official view except maybe your own guide. You will sense which comments are appropriate for you.

In your comments there is some assumed categorizations, probably to make sense of alot of overwhelming experience. It's all connected, so you can let it flow, though maybe slower  :)

Best wishes, Betson

Ok, then I feel free to let it flow :-)

My spirit guide yesterday started to talk to me urgently about my progress in development. He said it is very important and urgent, and time is limited, and they need me as a Helper.
They (I somehow feel/know there are more than the one that talked to me) work on me and with me. I am supposed to develop full mental and psychic abilities, particularly I need constant full clear mental vision, and a very large capacity for transmitting (receiving, holding, sending, accumulating) PUL.
The overall task is to get as many individuals through 'graduation' (using the term as described in Bruce's books) as possible.
After some asking questions and discussing and talking, I got an impression that this is about 'enlightenment', and upon that my guide was cheering up and very delighted and happy and cheerful! (almost a ROFL :-D)

I asked / wanted to know where he is located, and got impression of Focus 35, the Gathering.
Wondered about the space ships, he explained that they are translation devices for translating their concept of existence from one reality system to another.
He is part of a telepathic collective, same as I am from. I don't know whether this meant an 'I/There' or 'Disk' or a telepathic alien race.

The 'physical earth life reality system' is a sort of constructed artificial secluded environment, where the inhabitants experience a dream world and have their senses about 99% blocked, like a deep hypnosis.
The consensus reality view is very confined and restricted in this simulation.

...there was more, but have written elsewhere about it, and too tired to go on for now (it's 4am here)...
;)

best wishes to all :-)

ok then, addendum:

As I was in a receptive mood yesterday, I also tried some 'remote viewing' around, wanted to see whether the President of the USA really was guarded by psychics, so I wandered around a bit, was granted permission to pass (but only gruffly), and roamed around more, wanted to know about who has influence in the US, because I felt as if the President alone could not do what he would like to, and then I checked out the politicians, but found that they too are not that influential really, they seemed more like idealists. Then looked around more and found in highly influential positions in economy some characters that felt like Reptiles!... hmmm....  :o

Hi Oliver,
"Then looked around more and found in highly influential positions in economy some characters that felt like Reptiles!"

I read your concern about rattling someone's cage, but readers are free to dismiss anything as beliefs that don't fit them. And readers are free to read topics and posts that attract them.

I'm aware of the graduation process taking place now, but I wonder what you mean by "the overall task is to get as many individuals through graduation as possible"?

I am right there with you, friend. Over the years I have found I can literally empty the room in five minutes talking about this stuff at a party, so you may find this one of the only truly welcoming spaces for these subjects. Time is very short and they really do need every one of us as Helpers if we can.

We used to sing "Life is but a dream..." as children, and that was the truth. It is this experience that is the Dream, and out "over there" selves that are more our true beings and Essence. We are eternal out there (wasn't that Jesus' point with The Resurrection?). What is not always present is this experience of "life," of being alive in a body. I think this is what Jesus meant when he siad "The kingdom of Heaven is spread before your eyes, but you do not see it."

Just my 2 cents. Oh, yeah, You're right about the Prez.

Thomas

Volu wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 1:32am:

I'm aware of the graduation process taking place now, but I wonder what you mean by "the overall task is to get as many individuals through graduation as possible"?

It seemed to imply that like a wave in evolution of humanity, similar to how it was described in theosophical texts by H.P.Blavatsky, it seemed as if there is a wave coming to an end or to fruition, and as if the 'harvest' should be maximized. 'Graduation' here meaning the same as enlightenment.

"It seemed to imply that like a wave in evolution of humanity, similar to how it was described in theosophical texts by H.P.Blavatsky, it seemed as if there is a wave coming to an end or to fruition, and as if the 'harvest' should be maximized. 'Graduation' here meaning the same as enlightenment."

But how does one get individuals through graduation?

Hello Oliver:

I've been in contact with my spirit guidance/friends for about 6-7 years. Regarding Reptilians, I've received information that unfriendly aliens are involved with this World. Only a small amount of information referred to them as Reptilians.

Some internet based information on Reptilians seems questionable. However, I've found that some does seem trustworthy.

Eventhough I communicate with friendly beings, I've also found that it is possible to receive information from unfriendly beings. Therefore it is important to always keep our discrimination alive when making contact.

Some people, whether they make contact by themselves or read about the contact of others, underestimate how much unfriendly entities try to be an influence.

One way to discriminate is the nature of the messages received and how beneficial they prove to be.   Another is whether you feel uncondional love and peace coming from the beings you communicate with.

Hello recoverer,

regarding "Reptilians" and hostile contacts, I did not communicate with them, it was mere glimpses, impressions.
I think they have important function in the Earth Life System, like adding some weight and adversity and resistance, in order to facilitate a conducive environment for growth here.

Volu wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 12:39pm:

But how does one get individuals through graduation?

said nothing about "one" getting individuals through graduation, it is rather "us"

"said nothing about 'one' getting individuals through graduation, it is rather 'us'"

Hehehe, I'll rephrase the question: how do you or anyone else get individuals/groups through graduation? I'm curious about your view of the process.

Perhaps to some extent, but I believe their influence is overdone. Sometimes when a person plays with fire he gets burned.


wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Hello recoverer, regarding "Reptilians" and hostile contacts, I did not communicate with them, it was mere glimpses, impressions. I think they have important function in the Earth Life System, like adding some weight and adversity and resistance, in order to facilitate a conducive environment for growth here.

Volu wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 3:34pm:

how do you or anyone else get individuals/groups through graduation? I'm curious about your view of the process.

not 'someone' would get individuals/groups through graduation, it is rather the collective one-ness of the whole system as a holistic organism that intends and works on getting most or all parts of itself through that process.

Howto - as I see it IMHO:
1. As an individual, work on oneself's increasing clarity by focusing on clear mind, that can be done if one can distinguish between clear mind and unclear mind, and when knowing how to focus mind. (could expand on the specific training if asked)
2. Train actively handling PUL, by feeling it and sending it to others, can send to others individually, to groups, or to whole collectives or systems. If one does not know Pure Unconditional Love yet, one can start with Impure Conditional Love, then go on to Pure Conditional Love and Impure Unconditional Love, then go on to Pure Unconditional Love. If one does not know how Love feels at all, then it gets a bit tricky to explain or to show, but can be done, too.
3. With (1) and (2) direct these on sending it to others and influencing them in a conducive way to become capable of clear mind and focus and handling PUL themselves. That is already done by many incarnated and non-incarnated human and non-human beings and Helpers. They help in propelling others towards the same development to become a Being of Light. There is a distinct impression of Bright White Light.

I'm very interested in this subject to the point of developing my own with the intention of creating a course to help develop it in others. I think it is one of the fundamental courses that could be made as widespread as possible.

For the past 2 months, I've changed my diet to remove most refined sugar products and caffeine (Tom Campbell suggestions). I expect this to give more clarity to consciousness.

Hi and welcome Oliver.

One, if not the most important subject of Bruce Moen's books is "retrievals" and the many other things which are associated with it. That's definitely something someone can do to promote someone else's "graduation" (whatever this may be finally).

   In my experience, there are different windows of opportunities at each point of time. In one period of time you do many retrievals, then you might experience a more quiet time, then more mundane, and so on.

   Each of these has their own qualities. Through retrievals you learn much about yourself- sometimes it might even a bit too much what you learn about yourself, and then you'll have to meditate about what you are, or maybe even if you are in the way you've thought you are.

This whole thing we're talking about here at these forums finally circulates about our true nature. Don't loose it, or, if you must, do loose it! And keep us posted about it  ;) .

Spooky

something interesting about this matter:
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/reptilians.html

Quote:

The Reptilians were given a creation myth by their parent race, the Carians, that clashed with the creation myth of the Humans.  The Reptilians were told that they had the right to colonize all planets and star systems in the universe and when they did, they also had the right to conquer or destroy any civilization they found there. This creation myth has been the source of the many conflicts between the Reptiles and the Humans throughout the dimensions.  Yet, it was given as part of the Universal Game (Polarity Integration).  Without it everyone would have lived in peace and there would be no conflict.  If this were the case, soul evolution would cease and the universe would become stagnant. The Reptilians represent the Dark in the Polarity Integration Game while the Humans represent the Light.  Through this game, of the highest order, all souls in this universe have the opportunity to spiritually evolve and rejoin the creative god source. Jehowah is the reigning patriarch of the 9D House of Aln and Enki is the reigning patriarch of the 4D House of Aln at this time.  Until recently, Marduk, Enki’s son was the current commander of the Federation Flagship Nibiru, having seized control of it from his grandfather Anu, the former commander. It is also my understanding that Enki has become the patriarch of the 5D House of Aln and also Head of the 5D Nibiruan Council representing the Dark.

recoverer wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

Perhaps to some extent, but I believe their influence is overdone. Sometimes when a person plays with fire he gets burned. wrote on Sep 18th, 2011 at 3:02pm: Hello recoverer, regarding "Reptilians" and hostile contacts, I did not communicate with them, it was mere glimpses, impressions. I think they have important function in the Earth Life System, like adding some weight and adversity and resistance, in order to facilitate a conducive environment for growth here.

Hi spooky! :-)

Thanks for your welcome and your nice comments! :-)
...also explorer in consciousness...
:-D

Love

Great conversation here.
I'm only still learning to trust communication with my guide/s which also involves trusting the retrievals that i do.

I found the experience of doing retievals similar to a past life regression i did last year. Similar levels of trust in what i was experiencing where involved. Are the images real? Could i have made that emotion up? How do i recieve 'impressions' etc?

Strangely though on the topic of helping others 'wake up' from the dream of this reality, my life puposes message i got from the Past Life Regression was to "help people to live with the big picture in mind and enjoy a spiritual life".

Within 3 weeks of the regression i sponaneousnly started drawing cartoons (never drawn in my life) with bits of wisdom in them and without much effort managed to get a multi book deal!
This is the website: http://www.frogandthewell.com/

So it goes to show that you really have to trust and let go and be guided.

Hey Oliver,

I would want to read about any experiences or any conversations you have with your guide/s.  I would most wholeheartedly vote that you not "keep it to yourself"!  Some stuff you've said to date has resonated very well with me, and I particularly like the way you say "found some corner pieces".  Like that!  I've found many on this site, too.  It's just such a very very BIG puzzle.....

Calypso

wrote on Sep 18^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Hello recoverer, regarding "Reptilians" and hostile contacts, I did not communicate with them, it was mere glimpses, impressions. I think they have important function in the Earth Life System, like adding some weight and adversity and resistance, in order to facilitate a conducive environment for growth here.

  Oliver, i've gotten info about such groups.  You almost make it sound like they are somehow sent here by some higher Beings for the purpose of our growth. 

   So far, i doubt such is true.  It's just the nature of freewill, and that the more expanded levels of consciousness respect freewill in all consciousnesses.   

  But, to some extent, i agree that they add some challenge and difficulty, and that is not necessarily a "bad" thing, in and of itself.   One of the reasons why i think many of us come to this ELS is because of the difficult, challenging, polarized, and contrasting nature of same. 

   But the ELS is plenty challenging, contrasting, etc without the influence of those like the very un intune with PUL E.T. group we have addressed. 

  They are one of the outside influences that is helping to keep this world and humanity stuck, despite that i suspect the expanded levels of consciousness would like to see us graduate, reach a certain degree of attunement to PUL, etc.

  I think they are more involved with this world and some of the negative patterns in same, than many would like to even consider.  Yet, they are allowed to interact and influence to a certain degree so far, because of the respect of freewill and to some extent they are part of our overall process of growth.

For the last part, again it's not like they were put there for that, but it's something that's arose, sort of a "karmic" development, that once attracted, needs to be faced and dealt with. 

p.s., i feel some similar sense of urgency on part of guidance/my disk, etc. to get my butt into gear and get intune as much as possible within this life.  There are more specific reasons for that, that i know of, but this reply is already long enough as it is.