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Message started by Alan McDougall on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:33pm

Title: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:33pm
On the 18th August 2011 I died numerous times on the resuscitation table due to third stage heart block. I went through the whole drama of my heart stopping, flat lining over and over again, adrenaline, atropine were injected directly into my heart and the shock paddles and chest depressions, used over and over again in a desperate effort to get my heart to beat again on its own.



If I had any doubts about life after death I have none now, each time my heart stopped my soul or consciousness left my body and went into other dimensions of existence. At first I only remembered a little of what went on in those three hours of life and death struggle but lately have begun to remember more and more about the strange otherworldly realms I saw over the period of three hours. Each time they got my heart to beat I came back.

I saw numerous people all gathered to welcome me into the afterlife, all my beloved were there. It seemed like a welcome home party but as soon as the doctors got my heart to beat I was drawn back to the earthly world. Another time I saw a tree with a lot of books situated around it. Reading what was on the covers I saw that they contained all the knowledge and mysteries of existence. One very large book seem to consolidate what was in all the smaller books but when I tried to lift it was too heavy to carry and I decided to return later for it

II saw a beautiful pulsating orb of golden light that I took for the Lord Jesus as it emanated perfect peace and love. I had no tunnel and meting of a being of light I think because I was continually being resuscitated by the medical team

After three hours the doctors installed a temporary pacemaker to maintain the pulse at 80 beats per/minute instead of the 5 to zero beats it had been beating most of the time on the resuscitation table. I was told by the doctor that I had been “really really dead”

I now have a permanent pacemaker in my chest which should last ten years and despite the great shock I am felling very alive and well

Love

Alan McDougall

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by juditha on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 4:07pm
hi alan   i'm so pleased you are  ok now,i send you my love to you.

i think it's wonderful the experience you have had through your many near death,you have made me feel even more hope of what lies ahead for all of us after death.

thankyou for sharing your experience,so many will take comfort from this.

to see all your beloved ones and be so close to Jesus was so beautiful for you.

much love and god bless you   love juditha

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Beau on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 5:03pm
Wow Alan, what an experience! Glad you are doing better and hope you are 100% soon.  --beau

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by betson on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 9:07pm
Greetings Alan,

I echo Juditha's and Beau's greetings to you. You are certainly living an amazing life -- or lives.

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's always good to hear from you again.

PUL, Betson

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by b2 on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 9:45pm
What was it like coming back to your body over and over, Alan? It sounds like it all happened so fast. Do you think you might remember any more details or do you feel that you have remembered everything? Did the afterlife realm feel really really alive, while the doc thought you were really really dead? How do you feel about resuscitation now, after all that has happened?

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Ralph Buskey on Sep 3rd, 2011 at 1:43am

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Another time I saw a tree with a lot of books situated around it. Reading what was on the covers I saw that they contained all the knowledge and mysteries of existence. One very large book seem to consolidate what was in all the smaller books but when I tried to lift it was too heavy to carry and I decided to return later for it


Greetings Alan.

   Maybe you couldn't lift the book unless the silver cord connecting the spiritual body to the physical body is permanently removed. It could be a fail safe to prevent gaining secrets of the afterlife to bring back here. Just a speculation.

   Congratulations on a full experience of the other side. Now that I know that we can learn things over there I'm much happier. I always have a craving for learning. It would probably get boring just sitting around playing a harp all of the time. Don't think I'm being sarcastic as I actually mean it. I was looking forward to crossing over before but now I have something to look forward to while trapped on this prison planet.

Ralph

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Volu on Sep 3rd, 2011 at 2:32am
Hey Alan,

From my experience the orb is the higher self/disc, but these are yours, and neat to read about the calmness. Take care. :)

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 3rd, 2011 at 9:18am
Hi All

The other experiences were brought on by profound deep near death comas due to my bi-polar illness, more like a vivid altered states of consciousness. And yes

What happened to me two weeks ago was that I definitely died and was pronounced clinically dead by the cardiologist. He actually asked me if I believed in God and an afterlife.

I remember a great sense of peace and really wanted to remain in that wonderful place beyond this life. I would go to the other side and experience a long and detailed vision of the other side although only a few minutes of seconds had passed on the table. Time does not move the same in that afterlife dimension than it does her in the mortal realm, Each time the doctors got my heart to beat again I would return and each time I flat lined my soul left my body.

I also had out of body experiences while confined to the recovery table I could actually see my pulse stopping and the monitor indicating that my heart had stopped again and I was flat lining again

This whole episode took a lot out of my 70 year old body but somehow my spirit has become uplifted with a sense of continuing joy and peace. I promise to inform this lovely forum of any future memories that arise to the surface of my mind in the following weeks or months

Please never fear death God is love and it is just like going through a portal into the afterlife, where we will continue to live forever

IN GODS LOVE
Alan




Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Tony on Sep 4th, 2011 at 7:44am
Thanks for sharing Alan and peace to you :-)

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 4th, 2011 at 9:40am
Hi Guys,

I remember another episode while I was in the afterlife. I came to a large cavern like amphitheater where many people were mumbling in the dark. I think they represented false or powerless religion. Three black evil entities approached them (I did not fear any evil), One was animal like, similar to a large beast, the other was humanoid in form and was so oily, black and dark it looked like a shadow and seemed to be a servant of the beast. Behind these two forms was a large image of some huge entity that emanated all that was bad.

I called out to God and Jesus and a huge blazing golden orb lit up the whole cavern pushing these unpleasant entities out of the cave. I think what all this meant is we never need fear evil , just by calling on God he will come and banish them/it.

However if any of you guys have another interpretation of this episode please be free to post what you think as I am very interested in your views on this subject

Love

Alan

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by crossbow on Sep 5th, 2011 at 11:19am

Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 4th, 2011 at 9:40am:
...Three black evil entities approached...  ...that emanated all that was bad.

I called out to God and Jesus and a huge blazing golden orb lit up the whole cavern pushing these unpleasant entities out of the cave. I think what all this meant is we never need fear evil , just by calling on God he will come and banish them/it.

Love

Alan


Hello Allan,
You are blessed to have had such an experience. And I am sure that others will benefit from reading your story.

I especially like you last post above. It carries a true and helpful message.

I wish to add a thought to it, about the sorts of Gods that different people call out to.

There are many loveless people on this Earth whose idea of God is of an evil God; and while calling his name and chanting how great he is, they commit bloody murders. But their evil God is of their own making - a conjuration of their own murderous hearts and minds.

My point is that a person calling on their God, can but may not, banish evil, depending on the person and the character/nature of their God. One's God is limited by one's standard of God.

Evil men call on evil Gods, who fulfill their evil hearts. Although they believe their God is good, it is only because their comprehension and standard of goodness is only that high.   

As one's ideals grow and become more loving towards one's fellow man, one's God grows accordingly. But comprehension of love is required, and an example is needed to implant the idea of love in a mind where the idea has not been comprehended before. When one comprehends love, then one is able to call on the true God which is love and light. No man's God is higher than the love and goodness that he can comprehend.

Everyone who knows the Jesus story, knows that Jesus did not preach murder and war, but only preached love and forgiveness to all, even to enemies. And he lived the love and forgiveness he taught.    

The concept of Jesus as the son/product/representative of God guarantees a person's God is a loving God. Jesus keeps the standard of a person's God. And makes their God the true God.


Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Romain on Sep 6th, 2011 at 9:13pm

Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:33pm:
On the 18th August 2011 I died numerous times on the resuscitation table due to third stage heart block. I went through the whole drama of my heart stopping, flat lining over and over again, adrenaline, atropine were injected directly into my heart and the shock paddles and chest depressions, used over and over again in a desperate effort to get my heart to beat again on its own.
Love

Alan McDougall


Hi Alan; a bit late to answer but sending healing your way, so be it.
PUL.

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Claudio Pisani on Sep 7th, 2011 at 4:35pm
Hi Alan
Very interesting multiple-NDE! I've translated your post for my italian readers. Cheers! ;)
www.ampupage.it

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 9th, 2011 at 2:05am

crossbow wrote on Sep 5th, 2011 at 11:19am:

Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 4th, 2011 at 9:40am:
...Three black evil entities approached...  ...that emanated all that was bad.

I called out to God and Jesus and a huge blazing golden orb lit up the whole cavern pushing these unpleasant entities out of the cave. I think what all this meant is we never need fear evil , just by calling on God he will come and banish them/it.

Love

Alan


Hello Allan,
You are blessed to have had such an experience. And I am sure that others will benefit from reading your story.

I especially like you last post above. It carries a true and helpful message.

I wish to add a thought to it, about the sorts of Gods that different people call out to.

There are many loveless people on this Earth whose idea of God is of an evil God; and while calling his name and chanting how great he is, they commit bloody murders. But their evil God is of their own making - a conjuration of their own murderous hearts and minds.

My point is that a person calling on their God, can but may not, banish evil, depending on the person and the character/nature of their God. One's God is limited by one's standard of God.

Evil men call on evil Gods, who fulfill their evil hearts. Although they believe their God is good, it is only because their comprehension and standard of goodness is only that high.   

As one's ideals grow and become more loving towards one's fellow man, one's God grows accordingly. But comprehension of love is required, and an example is needed to implant the idea of love in a mind where the idea has not been comprehended before. When one comprehends love, then one is able to call on the true God which is love and light. No man's God is higher than the love and goodness that he can comprehend.

Everyone who knows the Jesus story, knows that Jesus did not preach murder and war, but only preached love and forgiveness to all, even to enemies. And he lived the love and forgiveness he taught.    

The concept of Jesus as the son/product/representative of God guarantees a person's God is a loving God. Jesus keeps the standard of a person's God. And makes their God the true God.


Hi Crossbow,

I agree with all of what you have stated except hat there is only one Infinite Divine Being and that is God. Any other entity that evil men worship and obey are figments of their own imagination or lesser gods/ demons such as Satan

LOVE

ALAN

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by crossbow on Sep 9th, 2011 at 9:41am
Yes Alan, we are in agreement.




Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Beau on Sep 9th, 2011 at 9:51am
That is something very nice to see: Two people on this board in agreement with something I too agree on :)

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Justin aka Vasya on Sep 9th, 2011 at 1:33pm
  Glad to hear you're doing and feeling better Alan. 

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by crossbow on Sep 10th, 2011 at 3:31am
he he     :)

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 11th, 2011 at 3:16pm
Thanks Guys,

I seem to have changed since my heart block NDE and am dreaming vivid real dreams where some deep wisdom is being shown to me nearly every night when I sleep. A lot of it I do not yet understand, but it seems to have something to do with the "books of knowledge" I saw around a tree during a time when I was flatlining on the table

Alan

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Ralph Buskey on Sep 12th, 2011 at 12:04am
   If we only had a bridge to bring those books to this world, what discoveries they will unfold. I wonder if they would solve the riddle of the inner earth realm. I recently watched a video that showed maps of it from the past century.

Ralph

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by crossbow on Sep 12th, 2011 at 11:22am
Those books sound interesting.
The only bridge is memory. Read them and write it down when you get back.
Is anyone aware of or heard of the librarys on the astral planes?   

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Berserk2 on Sep 16th, 2011 at 12:56am
Allan,

As you know, I used to post here regularly and now I just occasionally lurk.  But I often wonder, when posters just vanish, if they have moved on or have actually died, and it is frustrating not to know.  I'm thankful that you survived your heart problems and I appreciate the NDEs you shared.

Don

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by b2 on Sep 16th, 2011 at 12:51pm
Just a wild guess. Perhaps the cavern scenes were some kind of ancestral memories....the negative appearance of the unpleasant entities. But you have faith, and your prayer was answered. That speaks for itself. I really appreciate your descriptions and am very glad that you were able to come back to let us know what you saw. I had to watch my grandfather pass of complications after a heart attack. He could not speak when he returned. He had tubes down his throat, and never was able to tell us anything. I am so happy for you that, despite all you have been through, you were able to come back here, and that you thought of us, and that you have no more fear. And, for you to know that the goodness of the afterlife is there for you as soon as you call for it. How precious is that knowledge!

blessings always, b


Alan McDougall wrote on Sep 4th, 2011 at 9:40am:
Hi Guys,

I remember another episode while I was in the afterlife. I came to a large cavern like amphitheater where many people were mumbling in the dark. I think they represented false or powerless religion. Three black evil entities approached them (I did not fear any evil), One was animal like, similar to a large beast, the other was humanoid in form and was so oily, black and dark it looked like a shadow and seemed to be a servant of the beast. Behind these two forms was a large image of some huge entity that emanated all that was bad.

I called out to God and Jesus and a huge blazing golden orb lit up the whole cavern pushing these unpleasant entities out of the cave. I think what all this meant is we never need fear evil , just by calling on God he will come and banish them/it.

However if any of you guys have another interpretation of this episode please be free to post what you think as I am very interested in your views on this subject

Love

Alan


Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 19th, 2011 at 8:06am

Berserk2 wrote on Sep 16th, 2011 at 12:56am:
Allan,

As you know, I used to post here regularly and now I just occasionally lurk.  But I often wonder, when posters just vanish, if they have moved on or have actually died, and it is frustrating not to know.  I'm thankful that you survived your heart problems and I appreciate the NDEs you shared.

Don


Thanks Don,

Could you please elaborate? A near death experience is just that= near death, not actual total death from which no one returns (Except in the case of Jesus)

There is a new happening going on in Christian circles namely the "Lazarus Phenomenon" check it out DON

While I am happy to be alive it would not have been a bad thing if I had died, I am 70 years of age have lived a good and full life, although interspersed with terrible suffering due to a life long struggle with manic depression

love

Alan

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by hawkeye on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 1:17pm
Welcome back to this home Alan. I am happy that I have had an opportunity to hear your story. Just a thought on the books. Perhaps lessons already learned this lifetime, or lifetimes,. With the big book being a representation of the whole or the last big lesson. Just a thought.
Joe

Title: Re: I died the 18th August/ heart block/came back
Post by Alan McDougall on Sep 24th, 2011 at 7:01am

hawkeye wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 1:17pm:
Welcome back to this home Alan. I am happy that I have had an opportunity to hear your story. Just a thought on the books. Perhaps lessons already learned this lifetime, or lifetimes,. With the big book being a representation of the whole or the last big lesson. Just a thought.
Joe


Hi Joe,

The books were definitely not my life lessons but contained all the knowledge (Hidden) as well as that known about all things in creation. They seem to have some deep meaning of how we should relate to each other and the to the Divine God

Another thing I now remember is that the universe is full of sentient beings that also love God, unfortunately some are evil and like a  lot of us do their own thing

Love

Alan

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