Hi All,

I just wanted to share my latest method for doing group retrievals. It works really well compared to my previous approaches and getting me a lot of business ;)

First, my previous approaches. Anytime that you ask for a retrieval, if you're lucky, it's a single person. You can chat with them and if necessary lift them up to a higher subplane until a helper appears.

With two or more people, it can get a little tricky if you have to lift them up. What I often will have them do is hold hands in a circle before lifting.

What if not every one is cooperative, or worse, ther are just too many people? Well, the only method I had before was to create a "portal" This is where you somehow beam PUL into some spot in the astral scene and it acts as a gateway to a higher plane (e.g., F27). There are two problems with this method. You have to be in a really good mental state to beam PUL deep down in the lower astral (which I rarely am) And second you have to get every one to pass through the portal, which is not always possible.

Now for the new approach. You're in a room or a scene with several people. Grab onto something solid like a table or a tree. Now imagine the entire scene or room is a big elevator. Imagine the elevator is slow lifting up through astral subplanes (F21, F22, etc.). At first (maybe 20 seconds) nothing will noticeably change. But then, you'll start seeing some brightening or slight scene changes. Keep going and you'll begin to see people reacting to their changed surroundings. Helpers may appear at this point and you can pretty much stop here.

Good luck!

-mike

Very interesting Mike;
will try out that one next time it happens.
Thanks for sharing
PUL

hi, mike.
Have you ever noticed that the state of mind of the retrieval persons haven't changed?
I mean, so they don't follow the lift? I guess it's about the state of mind of the retrieval
persons?



Mendel wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:15pm:

Imagine the elevator is slow lifting up through astral subplanes (F21, F22, etc.).

Are you sure that you mean subplanes F21, F22, etc?

PauliEffectt,

I think it's confusing for a retrievee to have their scenery change on them, even slightly.

Regarding the astral subplanes. I've made the connection between what I see which is several strata in the astral and what Monroe labels F21-F26.

Have you made a different observation? I'd be interested to know.

-mike

Pretty much agree with this Mike; your last method is interesting though, can't say I've tried that (yet).
At least, not that I recall!

best wishes, gordon





Mendel wrote on Jun 11^th, 2011 at 10:15pm:

Hi All, I just wanted to share my latest method for doing group retrievals. It works really well compared to my previous approaches and getting me a lot of business ;) First, my previous approaches. Anytime that you ask for a retrieval, if you're lucky, it's a single person. You can chat with them and if necessary lift them up to a higher subplane until a helper appears. With two or more people, it can get a little tricky if you have to lift them up. What I often will have them do is hold hands in a circle before lifting. What if not every one is cooperative, or worse, ther are just too many people? Well, the only method I had before was to create a "portal" This is where you somehow beam PUL into some spot in the astral scene and it acts as a gateway to a higher plane (e.g., F27). There are two problems with this method. You have to be in a really good mental state to beam PUL deep down in the lower astral (which I rarely am) And second you have to get every one to pass through the portal, which is not always possible. Now for the new approach. You're in a room or a scene with several people. Grab onto something solid like a table or a tree. Now imagine the entire scene or room is a big elevator. Imagine the elevator is slow lifting up through astral subplanes (F21, F22, etc.). At first (maybe 20 seconds) nothing will noticeably change. But then, you'll start seeing some brightening or slight scene changes. Keep going and you'll begin to see people reacting to their changed surroundings. Helpers may appear at this point and you can pretty much stop here. Good luck! -mike