Aspect Retrieval - Old Man Jesiah


--- Part 1 - Background ---

I've been thinking for some time about the old man Jesiah,
who didn't want to leave his BST because he didn't know if
he could get the same good, red apples at the place he would
move to.

So in my grocery store I found some very deeply red apples.
Normally I by green apples or if I buy anything red, they
usually are yellow too, like the Jonagold apples.

But these new apples in my shop were deeply red, almost a little
dark. They were small too, like the smaller sized tennis balls
used by children.

I bought a bunch of those red apples, and when home I ate one
apple. I was surprised.

The apple was very juicy and tasted better than my regular ones.
The red apple also had more flavor to it, like there was a mixture
of fruit juice of more than one kind. I thought to myself that
now I understood Jesiah better. :)


--- Part 2 - Bedtime ---

Some days passed. I did some sessions, and saw some kind of
guides at times, but not much happened. Many times I just fell
asleep.

Then one evening, when I had gone to bed and was not in any session,
I suddenly saw Jesiah again!

That was odd..?

Didn't I retrieve him with help of guides several weeks ago?

His face was in front of me. And something scary happened.

Jesiah's eyes grew out like two black rods, the length of an arm.
I got very scared, either by his staring rod-eyes or just by
some kind of feeling of fear coming over me, like I was fed by
an emotion from this frightful being. The long eyes pointed at
me like black, threatening cues.

For a short while I felt almost as afraid as when I retrieved
a "dark tar" Aspect from Sevastopol in Ukraine.

I now started an attempt to talk to him. Perhaps this was another
Aspect of Self, which I needed to retrieve? I treated this Eye-Jesiah,
as one of my Aspects. I sent PUL and tried to absorb him, hug him
and get him to enter me.

No success.

Then I managed to leave the image of Eye-Jesiah. For a short while
I saw my guide who looks like Stephen Fry. He said to me that there
were still more Aspects left.

I was tired and didn't want to do more, and I didn't like the feeling
of being afraid. I denied the vision.

Eventually I managed to go to sleep.


--- Part 3 - Interlude ---

I have two sessions over the following days. Not much happens and the
sessions were more like simple meditations.

I sometimes during my days sense the scary pointed Eye-Jesiah, but by
now he doesn't seem quite as frightening.

I don't manage to interact with him in any creative way.

I'm puzzled.


--- Part 4 - Retrieval ---

This was strange.

I had had some sessions but never got into a retrieval during those
sessions. And still the Eye-Jesiah popped up during non-sessions.

Then while sitting at the loo (as Nodes would put it) one day, Eye-Jesiah
suddenly appeared in my minds eye. It didn't feel quite appropriate
to sit at the toilet and do a retrieval, but this image was forced
on me.

I could see Eye-Jesiah walk around. He was wearing his long "nightgown"
in some rough textile. I could see him from his left side and for a
moment from his front as he faced me.

His eyes still pointed out like three feet long rods/broomsticks, all
black. I now tried to talk to him. Perhaps he wasn't my Aspect?

Perhaps Eye-Jesiah was an Aspect of Jesiah?

First I had taken him to be my Aspect, because so many of my Aspects
seem scary to me. But this Eye-Jesiah may be the Aspect of Jesiah.

Jesiah himself may be retrieved, but this Aspect of his was still stuck.

I could see a light behind Eye-Jesiah, a few meters away. I just assumed
it to be some kind of Helper, and told Eye-Jesiah to go to the light. He
ignored me. I urged him by trying to tell him that he would meet some
old friends in the light, but that didn't help either. I made feeble
attempts at sending PUL, but I wasn't in the right set of mind on my
toilet.

This was all done with my physical eyes open. I could both see my bathroom
and at the same time sense Eye-Jesiah somewhere else. I don't think that
has happened to me before.

I then remembered that the real Jesiah liked red apples. Perhaps this
Eye-Jesiah liked red apples too?

I told Eye-Jesiah that there were wonderful red apples inside the light,
if he just would go and have a look. Then I tried to remember the taste
of those red apples I bought in my local shop several days ago. I urged
Eye-Jesiah to try to sense the taste in my mouth of those wonderful
apples.

My mouth was drooling as I thought of those apples. I remember saying:
"They are juicy." And pointed to the "apples" in the light.

Eye-Jesiah then for the first time spoke and asked me:

"Are they juicy?"

I went Jumm.. Taste them in my mouth! I really put an effort into remembering
how those apples had tasted to me and said:

"The apples are so juicy!"

Eye-Jesiah then seemed to turn around to the light he had had his back to
a moment ago. With his right side to me, he walked forward into the light
and his unnaturally black, broomstick eyes faded away and was replace with
normal eyes. He now looked just like the real Jesiah.

I hope I was done.


Since then I don't feel bothered by those starry eyes, even if there has
been some emotional residue left afterwards.

Really interesting account. I'm only just starting on this journey and what you say about "aspects" of yourself is interesting.

Quote:

Jesiah himself may be retrieved, but this Aspect of his was still stuck.

This is s interesting.

Bob Monroe spoke about the necessity of retrieving all of one's aspects. How many can you have? Sometimes when different people speak of retrieving the same person, it sounds like they have retrieved different aspects.  Or maybe that always happens. One aspect goes to The Park and another hangs out in a BST. Why not? But it does get confusing.

Lucy, do you remember where Monroe spoke of this? Any book?

Question is how to know that we have retrieved all Aspects..?

The short answer is in a video called something like "Wednesday with Bob." It was broken into segments to post on-line. It was something he did at TMI for one of the programs. I will look for the video but I can't right this minute.

I think the answer is that your disc knows and it can't leave the earth experience until all the aspects are "back" meaning retrieved.

I just tried to search; sorry I am at the slow computer right now will be at fast one tonight, but if you search
"Wednesday with Bob Monroe 1"
you will probably find the series, I think it was posted in Aug 2009. I'm not sure which one has the comments to which I have referred, but Bob is shown drawing on a board or large paper pad while he talks.

Wednesday with Bob Monroe 1 starts the series

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBM7Qeo5bg


The discussion about the I-There (IT) retrieving all the parts is in Wednesday with Bob Monroe 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyjIuFS1CPE&NR=1

but it would make more sense if you watch the earlier ones.

I wonder if he ever contacted the woman from the Soviet Union after the wall came down...(tape 9).....

Thanks for the links Lucy.
PUL

Hi Romain, I hope you find the videos as interesting I found them to be. I think it would be fun to have a conversation about different points Bob Monroe brings up but doesn't expound on. I have an underlying world view that is constantly in a little flux as I test it against other ideas, and then I test that world view against the world.

One philosophy of...reincarnation, for want of a clearer term, holds that we choose to come here to learn. Bob makes it sound like it often happens by accident, like getting something tasty from a food court we happen to pass, and then not being able to get out of the mall because we get addicted to the place. :D

Not sure how to fit these two views together but I seem to enjoy mulling that sort of thing over and playing out possibilities in my mind. The "real" answer seems to be something bigger than this world can hold.

Lucy, maybe we choose to come to learn certain things, but some of us become addicted to the ELS experience and come back time after time because of that.  But in the long run, isn't that also having to learn something?  So maybe those views aren't so inconsistent as they might first seem.

Pat E. wrote on Jun 5^th, 2011 at 1:57am:

Lucy, maybe we choose to come to learn certain things, but some of us become addicted to the ELS experience and come back time after time because of that.  But in the long run, isn't that also having to learn something?  So maybe those views aren't so inconsistent as they might first seem.

Hi Lucy/Pat E;
So we become adicted to the addiction, i'm i right, is this what your saying? Both of you.. ;)
PUL

Sorry PauliEffect;
We went out of your Aspect Retrieval - Old Man Jesiah or is it.
PUL