Hi all, I'm new to the forum and I don't know a lot about the afterlife but I am certain there is one.

The main reason for my post is me and my partner have recently lost our 15 month old son, so far there is no clear reason for why this happened and it was unexpected.
The night it happened and the day after, which we didn't get much sleep, we were devastated and I had lost all hope in life, the night after it happened I went to sleep and when I woke up in the morning I felt completely different in a better way and ever since I have felt this way, obviously I miss my son terribly and wish this hadn't happened but I know that he is ok where he is now as something is telling me so, although I'm not sure if it is him or another relative that has been lost and is looking after him.
The best way I can describe what I am feeling is thoughts but they are being put there by someone, it's not me thinking it if you understand me. Also when I wake up I get the feeling that I have been visited in my dreams but I don't remember the dreams, I rarely remember dreams anyway. On a few occasions I have woke up in the middle of the night for no reason, wide awake but with a feeling of relief that our son is ok where he is now.

Tonight is the first night we are staying at our house since it happened 3 weeks ago and the past few days the same thoughts were telling me to stay at the house as it will be ok but my partner was still uncertain so we didn't.

My brother in law told us the other night that he had a dream where he saw his grandmother, who died about 20 years ago, our son was with her and she told him he was fine and also his uncle who he doesn't speak to had had a heart attack in this dream but she said not to worry he's got 18 months left yet but his other uncle is next! I believe the dream is significant but don't understand why our son was with his grandmother who I hardly knew myself although it is a comfort to know this.

Sorry for the long post but there is one more thing, in the few days before my son passed he started waving bye all of the time, at his reflection in the mirror, to us, the animals we have and at something that we couldn't see too. At the time we thought it was very strange but didn't think too much of it but now it seems like he knew what was coming and if so how did he know and did someone tell him.

I'm certain that the feelings I am getting are what I think they are and my brother in laws dream is too but any advice is much appreciated.

Thanks, Andy

Dear Andy,

You have just had some profound experiences, haven't you?!  My condolences for the profound loss of your young son.  And also we can be very happy about all the confirmations of the afterlife that you and your family are experiencing! They are true (and are similiar to what many of us at this site have experienced) -- It's all so amazing.

You certainly have gone through some extreme changes. You might be helped in adjusting your whole system to your new insights by doing some deep breathing in fresh air, maybe with extra exercise.

Eventually I expect that your partner also will be greatly helped by all the information that you and your relatives are getting and by your reactions to it. 

Betson

Thank you for your reply betson,

I honestly believe that if it wasn't for the thoughts that I have been getting I wouldn't be here now posting this, I'm just grateful that it started so soon after it happened. My partner is 15 weeks pregnant with our second child, which I'm trying not to think too much about at the moment but I'm getting the feeling that all will be ok with this one but there is 6 months until he/she arrives so only time will tell.

I believe that I'm a spiritual person as I can feel a presence in certain places and have been able to for as far as I can remember, although not as often or as strong as some people. My nephew's (who is the son of my brother in law who had the dream) girlfriend has seen the grandmother mentioned in my first post a few times in their house and their dog is always looking at the places she has seen her, so it looks like she likes to visit them often.

My brother in law reminded me when he told me about the dream about one he had years ago, in this one he was in the house he grew up in and his granddad (alive at the time) was there and also 2 uncles (both dead). They said to him that he's too strong now we'll come back tomorrow!. The next day he got a phone call saying that his granddad had passed away!.

As for my partner, she has had some of the same feelings as I have which is helping her through it too although not as often as I do.

Thanks, Andy

Andy,
I am so sorry for your loss. As the father of two young kids, I cannot comprehend what you are going through. All I can say is that we seem to get what we need, when we need it. Clearly, you needed to know that your son was safe and in good hands. Often, as I understand it, there are family members around us (in the non-physical plane), that we might not expect, or even know in this life.  But they are there, and are part of your "extended" family just the same. I wish you  peace and joy with the new arrival.
Bardo-

Thank you for your kind words, Bardo

What we have experienced with our son I always thought it would be the worst thing imaginable, I can confirm that it is. What makes it worse is that he was fine 30 minutes before when I checked on him, he was asleep but nothing out of the ordinary and the same throughout the day, he was his usual happy self apart from the waving bye that I mentioned. A specialist doctor who deals with all cases of what's happened to my son and my sons own doctor have both said that medically, it's a mystery to them as of why this happens to babies, especially as of Lyndons age and how he was a very strong and sturdy boy.

It just goes to show that some things in life will never be able to be proven by science doesn't it? As countless years of research has gone into finding the reasons for this and has come up with nothing!. If I went to see a psychologist to tell them about my thoughts they would say that it's the brains way of protecting its self or some other nonsense like that, I know full well that it isn't as of how these things were happening and still are. It's someone telling me things although they are not physically there, again it's something that cannot be proved by science and only by the people that have experienced this like me and others.

I have seen things in my life too, the 3 main ones are when I was young in the house we used to live in I walked up the stairs and saw a dog (we had one at the time which looked the same) walking across the landing and into one of the bedrooms, I followed it as I thought it was the dog we had at the time but there was nothing in the room and when I went downstairs ours was lying there asleep, we had a similar dog before this one who had to be put down as he was 18 years old and I think this is who I saw. This looked like a normal dog.

I saw my dad in my mums current house 5 years ago, he died 10 years ago this year. I was looking out of the window and I felt someone watching me from behind, I turned around quickly and saw a shadowy figure looking at me from around a doorway and then he quickly moved into the doorway out of sight and then he was gone. I could tell it was my dad from his height and build plus I just knew if you know what I mean.

The last one was a couple of years ago in a house me and my partner were renting, I was doing something in our bedroom facing the doorway and I saw something moving out of the corner of my eye, I looked up and it was still there and it was a shadowy figure walking across the landing and into the bathroom slowly, when I checked the bathroom it was gone. The house was my partners uncle and aunties house before we moved in and when we told them they said, "yeah we saw it all of the time all around the house".

I'm sorry for rambling on, I'm just trying to point out why I believed in the afterlife before this happened to us recently.

Thanks, Andy

Hello Andy:

First of all, sorry for your loss.

I've received a lot of messages from spirits in various ways, and receiving thoughts as you mentioned is a valid way of receiving them. Also, I've analyzed thousands of my dreams and have found that we can receive spirit messages in this way. Therefore, you can probably trust the dreams you wrote about.

Due to numerous experiences I am certain that the afterlife exists, so you can trust that your deceased son still exists as a being who is aware of his existence.

Sometimes spirits try to let people know that a deceased loved one is okay because it easier for a such a loved one to move on when bereavment isn't too strong.

It interesting that your son was waving goodbye a lot during his later days.  I've read that some souls agree to incarnate for just a short period of time because their early death spiritually benefits their loved ones.

Andy,

The book you should read is "Beyond Reason: Lessons from the Loss of a Gifted Child" by Gregg Korbon, M.D. By chance, I had the great privilege of meeting and talking with Dr. Korbon, whose story I had heard about on the radio (NPR) only a few weeks before we happened to meet at a conference in Virginia. Both his tremendous, painful loss and the "unusual" events surrounding it beforehand and afterward (his son also seemed to know that he was soon to be "leaving") remind me very much of your own situation. It is a beautiful, heartfelt book, and I think you would gain much comfort from reading it. My condolences on your loss.   

HI Andy, welcome. 

I am so deeply sorry to hear about the loss of your son, and it wasn't very long ago.  I can't imagine how you're doing well enough to even be here talking about it.  My kids are 15 and 13, but I couldn't imagine losing either one of them at any age.  My heart goes out to you as I read your story. 

But when I read what you've been saying about the good feelings you've been receiving, it makes sense how you're "ok" at this point.  It sounds like you're receiving a lot of counseling spiritually, nonphysically, while you sleep.  Doesn't that seem to make sense to you?  I hope at this time you and your partner are getting plenty of sleep to help with the healing process, because especially during times of great stress and change in our lives our sleep/dream time is a time where we can receive a great amount of spiritual comfort and growth.  The feelings you're waking up with are proof of that, so please remember them, write them down, and remind yourself of those feelings.  They are real and they are important. 

You're probably already doing this, but I would suggest you talk to your son in your thoughts, tell him anything you feel, and just really make it your intention to connect with him.  This will not only bring you peace of mind, comfort, and relief, but may also facilitate receiving some answers that those doctors can't provide for you. 

Again, my heart goes out to you.  I can't imagine having lost one of my children back then, or now.  As a parent, you see countless times when you're near panic thinking the worst has happened.  Our son once wandered off in an antique store and I went "mad" screaming at everyone "Stop, look for my son!"  I screamed at the checkout clerk to lock the front doors so that no one could leave.  Yes, I went crazy until we found him hiding and playing with a toy he'd wanted.  My husband couldn't believe I'd act so nuts, but hey, what if someone was kidnapping our son?  He was only 2!  And once when my daughter was 1, we lost her at Sears department store.  (We ARE great parents, despite these two stories!)  And again, I went screaming mad, yelling at the top of my lungs, "Everyone, I can't find my baby.  She's 1 and she looks just like me!  Find her!"  I got everyone's attention at that moment, and luckily a group of people called to me saying they had found her.  And another time, when my daughter left the house on her own when she was 4....the list goes on and on.  And it just never ends.  Even now that they are teenagers, I still can't imagine if something were to happen to them.  I just thank God every day for them.

I wish you well with the new baby on the way, and wish you so much joy and happiness.  I know that many of our questions never get answered in life, but I do believe everything happens for a reason, even if we don't know why.  I'm so happy both of you are dealing with it ok and having so much family support, even in their dreams too. 

It really sounds like you have a gift for connecting to the other side.  I would not be surprised if you continue to have spiritual experiences surrounding your son as time goes on.  He will never leave you and you may be feeling his presence in different ways now and then, not just in dreams but in waking life too. 

I just wish I could give you a big hug. 

Vicky

Hi recoverer,
Thank's for your info, I haven't doubted my thoughts at all but it's good to have confirmation of them, I believe I have had them before in other situations but I have ignored them but this time I can't they are too strong.

Hi lakeman,
Thank's for the reference to Gregg Korbon's book I will definitely be getting it.

Hi Vicky,

Thank you for your kind words.

I can't believe how I can function with "some normality", I shouldn't be, people keep saying to me and my partner that they can't believe how strong I'm being, the thing is it's not me doing it on my own I know this now and I know myself, I am strong willed but this is beyond my own capabilities for sure. Lyndons funeral was last thursday and looking back on it I couldn't have done it on my own and I don't mean the people physically around me.

It does make sense that something is happening when I'm asleep, I don't know what though but I wake up and I'm at my best first thing which shouldn't be the case under the circumstances and I'm also not a morning person normally anyway! When I start to get down I don't stay like this for long I think about Lyndon and the good feelings flow in thick and fast!

I do believe that everything happens for a reason too from past experiences, I won't go into details but they have been major and minor events but everything seems to fall into place and without one thing it seems like there wouldn't be the others. I do hope that these feelings don't stop, I don't think that they will but only time will tell, I could get more! And I know he will be with us always, we certainly won't forget him.

Hi Andrew, I just want to extend my sympathy,concern & good wishes; I am sure there is nothing anyone can say that will really provide comfort at this time.

I recently lost my soul mate (through suicide) & I can absolutely assure you that there is life after the body  & that you will be in contact with your son when the time is right, something that you have obviously experienced in prior situations.  But parting is still a terrible wrench, & in the case of a child it must be almost unbearable.

Thank you, kirolak

Although my reasons for posting on here were not to get sympathy, it is a comfort to have thoughtful and respectful replies from yourself and others and it does help me.

My condolences for your loss too, I lost my father to suicide ten years ago on the 1st of may. Although we weren't really close he is still my father so I know how it feels, I don't think he has ever tried to contact me but when it happened I just blocked it out and concentrated on looking after my mothers well being plus I was 19 years old at the time and liked to drink so I started drinking more which was my way of dealing with it, so if he did then maybe he couldn't get through. Having said that I definitely saw him as mentioned in a previous post but I don't think it was his intention for me to see him by the looks of it. This is the other thing in the current situation, I rarely drink any more and haven't for a while but since what happened with my son I haven't touched or thought about drinking, probably as I know it's not the answer to any problems but I'm glad I haven't else what I'm experiencing might not have been able to happen.

Does this make sense to anyone? And do people who have passed over take all of their personality with them?, I mean with my dad as he often liked to spy on the neighbours and when they noticed him he would take evasive action like what I saw that day, so it's like he was spying on me.

Thanks, Andy

Andrew, 

Thinking of you and sending you good thoughts. 

Seems that you're on the right path, successfully reaching your son Lyndon where he is now, and trusting your feelings and intuition to get you through the difficult hours. 

Your question about personality and if it continues after we drop the body is interesting.  I do sense elements of my father's personality when I can feel him, so I think it does continue.  Interesting that I always "see" him in his carefree teen years instead of the 84 year old I last knew him as.

A phrase I read somewhere.... on the internet?.... recently helps me a lot, so I'll share: 

"We are non-physical beings having a physical experience." 

Lyndon and my dad Gaylen are conscious and ALIVE and now evaluating their recently completed "physical experience" in the non-physical realm where we'll soon join them. 

They're not "gone" at all.

Just gone ahead.

Just a bit ahead of us, and not even gone so far that we can't reach them when we try.

Thank you calypso,

That is interesting, and thank you all for your replies and welcoming me here, this is a great forum with good info and great people.

Andy B wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 12:39pm:

And do people who have passed over take all of their personality with them?, I mean with my dad as he often liked to spy on the neighbours and when they noticed him he would take evasive action like what I saw that day, so it's like he was spying on me. Thanks, Andy

I believe we do keep our same personality after die, basically.  Especially if you're talking about having interaction with them either while we're still alive or after we die too, I believe that we'll experience them with the same personality we did while they were alive.  Usually we just have that effect on each other.  Like you could be in a lousy mood but then a friend calls you up and it totally changes your mood.  I think personality has a lot to do with that because of the way we interact and identify with each other...and our perception of another person's energy is going to give us a great amount of personality interpretation anyway. 

So when it comes to the other side, it's all about connecting through thought and energy attraction, which is why, I believe, that if you're thinking about the person who died, they are going to feel and receive those thoughts.  I also believe that they can impress our thoughts by giving us a reminder of a memory, song, or anything that will get our thoughts in the right direction.  Those gentle nudges.  So while it's not really a matter of THEM behaving the way we remember them to be, it's more a matter of them getting our attention in the right direction so that we can remember, think, or feel a connection to them. 

After my dad died I've felt him "visit" several times.  And I'll just be doing something normal without thinking of him, and suddenly I'll feel him there and it changes my thoughts, mood, attention, etc.  So it's definitely reasonable to believe that it's an energy exchange that takes place....we are experiencing theirs and they are experiencing ours, just like here in the physical.  So by all intents and purposes, that exchange can be chalked up to personality.


About your fleeting vision of your dad and him being evasive....that might not be the case.  It's more likely that when you first get a sense of seeing him that something in your belief system quickly puts up a block in perception.  The slightest thought of doubt or disbelief can trigger that, even if you know you do believe in this sort of thing. 

What I've had to do to change that mechanism is begin to make changes in how I think about a lot of things.  One example might be something like allowing myself to be more relaxed in flow of thinking throughout the day, rather than my usual planning of every little thing I need to get done today.  Just making one change like that can help to change traits in your belief system.  Does that make sense?  So like, instead of rigidly sticking to my to-do list one day, I might instead decide to see what it feels like to tell myself, "Ok, I know I have a big to-do list today, but what do I feel like doing at this moment?"  And if I tune into the true nature of my feelings rather than just sticking to the logical side of me, it's a way of opening the door to allowing the psychic/intuitive side to open up to other possibilities, and that's the side of us that perceives spirit connection and communication. 

Vicky

Thanks vicky,

Yes that does make sense and you could be right about what I saw as it did happen very fast. It was a "did I really see that" moment so already there is doubt in my mind to start with, although I know I definitely saw it my mind tried to say otherwise, if that makes sense?

Thankfully I'm more open minded now than I was then and a lot more confident in my own beliefs. So now when something happens I take it as it is and don't doubt them too much, the reason being that you can drive yourself nuts over thinking things from my experience.

Hi all,

I'm sorry to bring this up again when you say signs, what kind of signs have people experienced from their loved ones who have passed over? I may have had a couple over the past few days, well me and my two cats had one and my partner had the other.

Mine was friday night, I was feeling down and was a bit annoyed at some people so I couldn't pick myself up and I don't think anyone could get through to me if you know what I mean  ;), I am hot headed by the way if this helps. We went to bed but my partner had forgot her insulin which is in the fridge and asked me to get it for her, I did and when I walked from the kitchen to the living room my partners jacket (which was on my sons folded up playpen against a wall) "fell off" right before my eyes and the cats. When I say fell off it was pulled off as it was draped over it and couldn't possibly fall off on it's own and also the manner of how it happened, the other clue was both of my cats who were resting at the time away from this were staring wild eyed at the area, I've never seen them like this before.

On sunday morning my partner got up before I did and went downstairs, shortly after she came running back up and said one of his toys is on the floor out of his toy box, the toy is a winnie the pooh (which dances when you shake a wand at it) it has a motor in it so it is quite heavy, the reason I'm describing the toy is because the two cats were the only physical beings in the room but they couldn't possibly have done this, due to the weight and also there was another toy resting on this and they would have had to knock this toy on the floor to get to it, this wasn't on the floor it was in the toy box. The T.V stand is next to the box but they couldn't have got it this way as they would have knocked the toy on the floor. I also offered the toy up to one of the cats and he backed off from it which he wouldn't have done if he had done it, I know this from past experience.

Also I have felt my sons presence around me now and again, normally sitting next to me on the sofa and the cats do act very strange at times, again it is unusual for them to be like this, we have had them, one which is a bengal cat for 5 years and a tabby cat for four years which I am very close to so I know when they are down, scared etc.

We also have a dog which is acting different, she won't leave us alone but she is due to have puppies in 2 weeks so I've put it down to this but it could be the same thing as the cats.

Tbh, I'm sharing my experiences here more than needing advice as I know that experiencing something for yourself is an entirely different thing than telling people about them. But I would like to know of other peoples experiences particularly if they are similar to mine but any would be good to hear.

P.S sorry if Iv'e put too much info and bored you all lol. I just wanted to point out that I know my animals, as some people have them and don't know theirs like I know mine.

Thanks, Andy

  Hi Andy, sometimes i read posts like yours on here and i just don't know what to say.

  But i don't want that silence to be considered apathy or indifference. 

  I feel happy that you are finding out that your son is ok and that you are finding out that you are being communicated to.  I think much will open up for you in the future in this area. 

  This inphysical life is such a tough journey sometimes, but i've found out that it's all worth it in the end from the bigger picture.  I hope that if you haven't come to that knowing yet, that you will, because it can help one deal better with such painful experiences like the one you related. 

P.S., i just read your recent reply.  Just wanted to share that it's my intuition that cats often can sense or see nonphysical eneriges, and often do react to them when a nonphysical consciousness is particularly focusing in physical for a bit.

wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

Hi Andy, sometimes i read posts like yours on here and i just don't know what to say.   But i don't want that silence to be considered apathy or indifference.

Hi Justin,
I understand, a lot of people feel the same as you and I would if it happened to someone else, thank you for replying though.


wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

I feel happy that you are finding out that your son is ok and that you are finding out that you are being communicated to.  I think much will open up for you in the future in this area.    This inphysical life is such a tough journey sometimes, but i've found out that it's all worth it in the end from the bigger picture.  I hope that if you haven't come to that knowing yet, that you will, because it can help one deal better with such painful experiences like the one you related.

At the moment the best way I can describe how I feel is, I miss my son being here physically and the things we used to do with him, on the other hand, I know he is still around, as I type this he is next to me again on the sofa and this has been the longest time I have felt him there, so I can't really miss him if he is still here, if that makes sense? Having said that I wish that none of this had happened and (no offence) I'm not posting about my new insights on here but that's how it is now and I'm sure I will get answers when the time is right.

At the moment I am getting enough from him which is helping me get through this and I honestly don't know where I would be without it. I don't feel ready to go any further yet so to speak but I will in time.


wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

P.S., i just read your recent reply.  Just wanted to share that it's my intuition that cats often can sense or see nonphysical eneriges, and often do react to them when a nonphysical consciousness is particularly focusing in physical for a bit.

That does explain their behaviour, I know this is off topic, is that a British Short Hair in your picture? The reason we have the Bengal cat is, my partner wanted a cat and we saw an advertisment for the British Short Hairs in our local paper, so we phoned for an appointment at the breeders to look at them, they are a lovely looking animal but my partner then saw the Bengal and we both agreed on getting him instead. He cost me a lot of money which tbh I didn't really have at the time but I just had to have him and haven't regretted it since, it's things like this that have made me think that some things are meant to be.

There are many other occasions in my life that have made me think this way, the main one is me and my partner being together but that's another story.

Thanks Andy.

Hi Andy,

Your sharing hasn't been too much or boring.  I love hearing other people's experiences and thoughts.

I think it's cool about the jacket and the Pooh toy, although I might be a little freaked out if that happened to me. 

Recently I'd been thinking of my dad and had been asking him to physically move something to give me a sign of his presence.  A few days later a journal fell off my bookcase.  It was "impossible" for the journal to fall off naturally because of the way it was stacked on the shelf and nothing happened to cause it.  So I'm assuming it was in response to my asking, although it wasn't impressive as far as proof, so I dropped the whole subject and was no longer interested in that.

I much rather enjoy when I feel someone's presence in the room or with me.  Even without any physical proof, that's the best kind of experience, I think.  Like you said of feeling your son there, it's the feeling that is the best part of the experience. 

Consequently, I had also been asking to see my dad appear to me, but that has not happened yet.  But both my mom and my brother (mom lives here in Colorado, but my brother lives in Virginia) have seen a presence like a mist in their house.  My brother isn't sure what to believe, but my mom believes it was my dad.  I wonder why I haven't experienced that too.

And by the way, I definitely understand and believe about cats being able to sense things. 

  Hi Andy,

Thank you for the reply.  Yes that does make sense. I've also experienced the transition of someone i was very close to, so from experience it makes sense.

  I'm not sure what breed my cat is.  An ex roommate decided one day to drop her off at our place as a "present" after finding her hanging out homeless. 

I guess it is difficult to get people to talk about experiences like yours. That is why some people write books. Once you start looking, you may find there are more books out there than you previously could imagine.

The book Lakeman mentioned sounds very interesting and if you go to the guy's website you will find you can read the first part of the book for free, so to speak, but it just made me want to read the whole thing.

A couple of books that came to mind right away were Miraculous Moments by Elissa Al-Chokhachy. She's a hospice nurse who compiled stories such as yours into a book.  Another was a book called I think 41 Signs of Hope by Dave Kane. Dave Kane's 18 yr old son was killed in what is called the Station Nightclub Fire about 8 years ago in RI. The son's favorite number was 41, and that number kept showing up in the family's lives afterwards. Some of the connections sound a little tenuous, but Kane believes in them as messages from the son, partly because they are so numerous. They show you just need to trust what you feel about what you see as a message. (I read both from the library, maybe your library has them). Here's an article on Dave Kane:

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2010/03/31/go/7113827.txt

I'm sorry you've had this sadness in your life and I hope you find peace. I like the story about the toy being moved. Sounds just like a kid.

Hi Vicky,

Believe me when I saw the jacket it did freak me out at first, I stopped in my tracks and stood there staring at it, then I noticed my cats were doing the same as me, I even waved my hand in front of the face of one of them and they wouldn't snap out of it, after when I came to my senses I just laughed as it was definitely him.

The pooh toy we didn't see happen but the cats did by the looks of it, I'm glad that my partner found it first as it has helped her come round to the "idea" that he is still around. I've gone over all possibilities with both events, it's not too difficult with the jacket as I saw it but with not seeing the pooh toy it took a bit more thinking before I could come to the conclusion that I have and there is no doubt in mine or my partners minds who is responsible.

I'm pretty astonished that these have happened tbh, I mean you read about things like this but it's an entirely different thing when you see it for yourself, all in a good way though.
I do find his presence a better experience myself, he was here last night for a long time until we went to bed, about 3 hours I think whereas other times he was here and there for 10 minutes or so but last night had been 4 weeks since we lost him so I don't know whether that was the reason or not.
I don't know if this will help you with seeing your dad or not, but when I have seen visions on the 3 occasions I mentioned in the previous posts, I was not expecting any of them, the last one I saw which went into the bathroom, we were actually told about it before we moved in so at times I was looking for it although I did think it might be bs as some people like to do that, on the day I saw it my mind was on other things so I don't know if this has anything to do with seeing them, I didn't even know what I was looking for either tbh.

Hi Justin,

Thanks for the reply, I'm glad that makes sense to you. It's a nice story about your cat as I hate to see stray animals, I have taken in a few in myself but passed them on to animal rescue as we have too many animals as it is.

Hi Lucy,

Thanks for the book references, I have looked on the beyond reason site myself and read through the free part and I felt exactly the same as you, I wanted to read more, I have ordered it off amazon but it doesn't seem to be a popular book in the U.K so the estimated delivery is at most the end of may! I can't wait to read the rest of it and I don't normally read books tbh! http://www.beyondreason.info/unusual.asp if you look on this link there is a short account about a girl that died but just before she did she drew a picture of how she died, I can't see how sceptics could explain that one!

Also the link you provided is quite interesting although they seem to be coincidences, but who am I to say otherwise, the only numbers related thing with my son is, he was born on 15/12/2009 and died on the 15/03/2011 exactly 15 months old, I don't know if this is of any significance but it's some coincidence, when the minister who did the service at his funeral came to talk to us he asked us this and when we told him he was taken aback by it! It does make you think though.

Thanks, Andy

Hi all, nothing much has happened since I last posted, I have felt his presence briefly a few times but nowhere near as much as mentioned before. Is this normal?

Also in his room which we have and are keeping as it was when he was here, now and again we can smell his scent and sometimes sick lol which you do get with babies, but normally the smells aren't there, so is this a way of letting us know he's still around?

I finally received Gregg Korbon's book and I have read it, it's very good and although what happened to his son before his death is similar to what we have experienced, the most astounding thing that I found is what Gregg himself experienced and it was pretty much identical to what has been happening to me so far but obviously a lot more happened to him over the years, so it has helped me make more sense of everything.

Thanks again to lakeman for pointing it out to me.

Thanks, Andy

Andy B wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 11:11am:

Hi all, nothing much has happened since I last posted, I have felt his presence briefly a few times but nowhere near as much as mentioned before. Is this normal? Also in his room which we have and are keeping as it was when he was here, now and again we can smell his scent and sometimes sick lol which you do get with babies, but normally the smells aren't there, so is this a way of letting us know he's still around? I finally received Gregg Korbon's book and I have read it, it's very good and although what happened to his son before his death is similar to what we have experienced, the most astounding thing that I found is what Gregg himself experienced and it was pretty much identical to what has been happening to me so far but obviously a lot more happened to him over the years, so it has helped me make more sense of everything. Thanks again to lakeman for pointing it out to me. Thanks, Andy

Hi Andy,

I'm glad that you finally got to read Gregg's book, as I knew it would speak to your situation. I don't know if he still has it operating, but I believe that he had a web site and a board there. You might contact him directly. I think he would be very open and supportive.

As far as smells go, there is much of this type of experience of "presence" reported in the literature. In one of his early books Bruce Moen has a story about smelling a skunk in connection with sensing the presence of a friend's passed relative.

On a personal note, on the morning of my mother's funeral, I was standing with my future wife and my sister-in-law in one of the upstairs bedrooms of my parents' house, and all three of us simultaneously reported smelling the pungent odor of a burning cigarette. My mother had been a smoker almost to the very end. (No one inside the house was smoking at the time--nor was it the leftover smell of stale cigarettes. Mom had been out of the house and in the hospital for some weeks before she died. This was a very strong odor, like someone was standing next to us puffing away.)

Hi, lakeman

There is a site which is for Gregg's book which has a board on there, which I think is still operating. Is this the one you mean or is there another?

You smelling the cigarette smoke is interesting isn't it?

People I know have experienced this also.

Andy B wrote on Apr 24^th, 2011 at 10:17am:

Hi, lakeman There is a site which is for Gregg's book which has a board on there, which I think is still operating. Is this the one you mean or is there another? You smelling the cigarette smoke is interesting isn't it? People I know have experienced this also.

Hi Andy,

Here is the address I have for Gregg Korbon's site: http://www.beyondreason.info/default.asp.

On the conversation board there is a section where you can ask Gregg questions. I’m sure he would answer you. I think I mentioned that I met him at a conference, and he strikes me as a genuine and kind-hearted individual. Whether this is because of his great loss, in spite of it, or both, I don’t know—that is part of the great mystery of life, I guess.

The fact that our loved ones would manifest their presence through particular odors—or at least that we would perceive them thus—strikes me as quite interesting, especially since most of us think of, and would seem to prefer, experiencing “visions” with the visual sense (or quasi-visual, interior visionary perception). However, smell (and taste) is an acutely powerful sense, especially so when we are younger. I can recall certain scents from my early childhood—the peculiarly distinctive way the local library or variety store smelled—which was a very long time ago indeed! Marcel Proust’s “remembrance of things past” was of course triggered by the taste of a madeleine dipped in tea. In a way, smell and taste are much more immediate and acutely tactile—more physical, that is—than sight and hearing, and thus bring us closer to what we perceive. Perhaps that is part of the reason for our encounters.

Thanks lakeman,

That's the site I was thinking of but I've only had a quick look at it, I will look into contacting Gregg to see what he has to say.

As for scents, yes I think your right they do have more of an impact on us it seems. Maybe it's more difficult for us to see them so scents are an easier way for us to pick up on their presence. I do know of one person who can see them a lot when other people can't, so maybe some of us have better abilities than others, tbh though it doesn't really matter to me as I have had enough things happen to convince me that it's definitely real. I'm not saying I'm an expert in this field though lol.

Thanks, Andy

Interesting points & scientifically speaking it is well accepted that smell connects to a more primitive and emotionally impacting part of the brain. 


Lakeman wrote on Apr 24^th, 2011 at 11:46am:

Perhaps that is part of the reason for our encounters.

  Maybe also because of the potentially "unexpected" factor involved too? 

  When i've read the more well known psychic and spiritual literature out there, i've read a lot about seeing, feeling sense and emotionally wise, and hearing, but not as much about smell experiences.

If i were a nonphysical person trying to get across my presence or what not to a inphysical person who has some basic and/or mainstream knowledge of the nonphysical etc., i probably would be more apt to pick a more unexpected way of communicating.

 

Andy:

Perhaps you might want to check out this site and book about after death communications.

http://www.after-death.com/

Thanks recoverer, that's a good site and the book looks interesting.




wrote on Apr 24^th, 2011 at 3:09pm:

Interesting points & scientifically speaking it is well accepted that smell connects to a more primitive and emotionally impacting part of the brain.

That's interesting and it makes a lot of sense.