hi i found this on youtube,its what rick is saying about what will happen in 2012 and i dont doubt what he is saying here at all,i really beleive rick, really beleive this is the truth of what will really happen in 2012,the one you want to watch is in the box  on the side what says 2012

http://www.youtube.com/user/ricktimet#p/u

lovwe and god bless love juditha

Hello Juditha:

I can't watch this now because I'm at work. But I searched for his site and found what he wrote about 2012.

http://www.timetravelrealm.bravehost.com/2012.html

I've received a number of spirit messages stating that changes will take place in the near future.

He speaks of pole shifts. I can't say I received information about this, except one time I was asked about the changes and I was shown one of my pots on one of my oven's stove burners. It was turned upside down. Going by symbolism I received in the past, oven/stove is a symbol for energy.  The pot being turned upside could mean that my energy is going to be shifted in a key way.

Perhaps the energy of others was also being referred to because I was next shown an image of a man pole vaulting. At first I considered this to be a symbol for a mankind ascending to a higher level. Perhaps it also means a pole shift, since pole vaulting took place.

Once I was shown an image of an earthquake taking place I think in the north pole. Next there were floods. What would happen if numerous icebergs collasped into the ocean? Could a pole shift cause them to collapse?

Once I was shown the earth shifting. Not sure what this meant.

I noticed that Rick Lipani speaks of retrievels and focus 27. Perhaps he has some sort of TMI connection.

hi recoverer thanks  for putting this link on.

when i read about the changes that will come,i feel each day lately that i'm waiting for something,like there's something in the air,it's eerie really,it feels like im standing with my back against a brick wall and there's a corner and i'm waiting for something to come from round that corner,i have felt and seen this vision of me for a few years now.

i think its great that spirit have been showing you symbols of what is to come,there have been a lot of earthquakes lately and they seem to be getting stonger now and more frequent and also flooding,i mean we do not have the amount of sunshine we should be having in England now,we have a lot more rain falling now,i think probably we are all gradually being prepared for whats to come.

i have mixed feelings about all this happening of 2012,the changes coming seem like its going to better for all, but i do have a certain amount of fear but i think that's just me being human.

its like our planet is going to have a spring clean,out with the old in with the new.

sometimes its feels its hard to imagine we live on a planets that travels in space,i beleive in the evolution that our planet was created by the theory of the big bang, but that God caused it to happen and whatever lifeforms started to form ,God placed in them the spirit, as the planet or evolution could not do that, only God can place the spirit.

if oneday we both pass to spirit,i hope if i pass before you to spirit ,that when you pass over ,you will look me up, as i would love to sit and chat with you,and hear what you have to say about the spiritworld ,but if you pass  before me to spirit,when i pass to  spriit,i will look you up.Glass of celestial wine and a chat,look forward to it oneday.maybe when us all on here go over to spirit we could all have a reunion of souls.

love and god bless  love juditha

The human superstition of future dates and incredible superstitious events that will happen is a very real and very strong phenomena. It effects everyone, even myself, even though I know that 2012 is just another year. The things that will happen in 2012 have happened in past years...

.....it's just another year.

My sources: Numerous level headed scientists which know much more than me on the Earth and the superstitions for 2012.

Hi,

Recooverer said "I noticed that Rick Lipani speaks
of retrievels and focus 27. Perhaps he has some
sort of TMI connection."

Rick is or was a member here so I expect he has some familiarity with TMI too. "Ricktimet' was the name he posted under.  One post gave the link to his videos of afterlife images of several focus levels, which had a strong impact on my consciousness, like memories suddenly made real.  :o  Because of the effect of these images I feel that Rick was in touch with true afterlife consciousness.

He was also working on a feature film/Tv offering but he didn't post on what happened with that.

Bets

Juditha:

Yes, we'll say hello someday in the afterlife. :)

I received a number of messages about earth changes from spirit beings that have proven to be trustworthy.

Thanks for the info Betson.

  Some of his general info rings true, but some of the more specific stuff doesn't. 
Humanity will not be ascending en masse come 2012--at least not from any probable perspective.  That is over right brain, wishful thinking.

The specific year 2012 has a lot of hoopla surrounding it, without specific understanding of what about and why the Mayans looked at this time. 

The Mayans somehow knew about the Galactic Core, and they knew the major cycles in connection between our Sun and this Core/Center. 

  But this major alignment with the Galactic Core has been going on in an astronomical sense since about 1980 and will be in alignment till about 2016.  The exact center alignment actually happened in 1998 (coincidentally a year that Cayce's guidance pointed to as a very important marking year for humanity consciousness wise & this was before knowledge of the Galactic core and our cycles in relation to same). 

  There are some more minor cycles contained within this 36 year period of Galactic alignment, and 12/21/12 points to one of these. 

  Monroe and others saw probable futures directly, and they saw that humanity would have to go through another 1000 years or so, before we finally got our act together spiritually and collectively ascended on and as a whole.   This is not something that is simply handed to us without us having to do anything.  It's not a free ride, but something we have to make and allow to happen. 

  Meanwhile, there will be a process of much material change over a span of time, which will be challenging, but these will lead to a lot of collective growth eventually. 

Justin,
"Humanity will not be ascending en masse come 2012--at least not from any probable perspective. That is over right brain, wishful thinking."

With the changes coming the astral could potentially be "crowded". :p From what I've gathered some discs are getting ready to move on while others are staying, but on another planet as earth spirit is wrapping up too. Whatever happens, I think it's a good tip to keep in sight who one really is, as bob said, more than the body. Many have had their share of rough times and have worked it out, so fear of the unknown may very well be a solid waste of time. Likewise with various expectations.

Some of the info that trickles into the mainstream is purposely shone a "light" on, because it generates fear. And I suspect the 2012-ish event(s) is one of these trickles.

I know this is a very silly post but in 2012 when nothing happens how about all the people that thought it was the end give me some money?

;D

(edit: I sure could use the money, my wife hasn't worked full time in years and I struggle, no matter how many overtime hours I work I am unable to live up to the American standards. for example: I cannot afford a house, I have to rent, and I cannot afford a new or even used car. In fact, I can't even afford to pay to have my car inspected even though it's the law. So yes, I need money. and no, it's not my fault, I work A LOT.)

(Pass me some toilet paper pls) Sorry Juditha, but I think it might be time for you to get out and get a breath of fresh air. To me, (and that just to me) this guy is full of it and is out there selling it by the shovel full. Just my opinion.