I am new to the exploration, and have been reading Mr. Moen's book. Last night I was making an attempt and I had an unnerving experiance. I saw things for the first time, darkness with human outlines, I was scared but happy, that made no sense to me, but I went with it. After seeing this I saw my recently departed father. I was in his kitchen with him. I asked him how he was. He said I don't know. He seemed dazed, he left the room before I could ask for help.I was so shocked by seeing him I lost contact. I am afraid I left him, and he needs help. I am shaken by this. Can anyone offer advice? Thanks, Erik

EJ wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 12:55pm:

I am new to the exploration, and have been reading Mr. Moen's book. Last night I was making an attempt and I had an unnerving experiance. I saw things for the first time, darkness with human outlines, I was scared but happy, that made no sense to me, but I went with it. After seeing this I saw my recently departed father. I was in his kitchen with him. I asked him how he was. He said I don't know. He seemed dazed, he left the room before I could ask for help.I was so shocked by seeing him I lost contact. I am afraid I left him, and he needs help. I am shaken by this. Can anyone offer advice? Thanks, Erik

Hi Erik: Are you reading and practicing AKG?

S.

Thanks for your response, I am really new to this. I have only read half of Afterlife Knowledge Guidebook, and did not expect to have such an experience so soon. I was not really trying, I was very tired and was trying to relax when suddenly I saw the images I described. I was paralyzed while seeing the black and figures, I could not move! And it would seem I heard a loud buzzing. It's not that I am afraid to try again, I just worry that I left my father before I could get him help to move on. Did I have a OBE? I'm not sure.

Firstly, don't worry, Erik.

Your father isn't experiencing time as you do, so you can get back to help him without him being fully aware of how long in Earth time that you were gone. He's apparently forgotten that he can move on into a better place and so is just waiting.

Make a few plans before you attempt this again. For example, say to yourself that you will bring a Helper to aid you. Don't be concerned that you don't 'know' where your father is or where his better place destination is.  You find them both just by thinking about them, just as you found your father the first time.

Being tired is often helpful because your logical mind isn't so alert, and not so likely to put up blockages against what you're doing.

You did it once, so you can do it again --congratulations!

Betson

Thanks for the information, I do feel better about the whole experience today. I must admit, I did not expect to get anywhere so soon. It happend so fast after I told myself to keep an open mind, there could be something beyond earth. And wham, I was there. Once I get myself ready, I will try again. And I will make a plan. Thank you all.

I had the same kind of surprise when I first got the Guidebook and had my first retrieval right away.  I too wasn't expecting anything so fast, especially anything "real".  In fact I had no idea what to expect or what it should be like.

It sounds like you did have an OBE.  It seems like a lot of people new to it do experience the buzzing and the paralysis.   

Anyway, my advice is along the lines of Bets too.  I don't know how far in the Guidebook you are, but I'd say that before you begin trying to go back to your dad, take a moment when you're in a normal frame of thinking, not afraid or worried about what to expect, and just allow yourself to set the intent you want, very clearly.  I see it as a 3-part thing.  First there's the thinking part, "what do I want to do?"  That's easy to figure out.  So it might be, "I want to visit my dad again, see how he's doing, and help him move on where he needs to be.  I don't know how to do that so I want a helper."  It may not feel like much, but knowing your intention clearly already creates it. 

The second part that I do is what makes your intention feel like it's coming to life.  That is now to not be thinking, but just be feeling.  Even before you begin any retrieval exercises or techniques, just sit and feel your intention with your heart.  This energy helps give it power and strength.  This may be hard for some people to do, and if so Bruce's book describes the Feeling Love exercises that you can practice any time.  It's really a good and important exercise to practice.  Third, begin your exercises. 

This is a breakdown of how I do things, but once you get used to the process you will find you can do it faster, more naturally, and the lines will blur as to which part you're on.  They'll just blend.  Sometimes I will break it down over several days.  It may take me a while to formulate an exact and clear intention just on a thinking level.  Then I might take a few days of really feeling the emotions that my intent give me.  You know what it's like to build up the desire of really wanting something and being excited about it?  That's what I mean.  So I might do this for a few days and then tell myself that at such and such day and time is when I'm finally going to do the retrieval.  Of course it's not necessary to "gear up" for it like that, but sometimes that format helps get you going without fear or doubt.

Thank you Vicky, that helps, I really was not sure what or how, but that gives me a starting point. I am not as afraid now since I know I am not alone. I will do as you said, when I am ready, it may be some time before I get the guts to try it again. I may have been skeptical, but not any more. Thank you so much.