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Title: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 2:14pm
I just finished reading Chris Carter's new book called Science and the Near Death Experience. Some of the information is old stuff but he makes some great arguments for consciousness beyond the body. He refutes Susan Blackmore very well and it could possibly be the reason she has given up her persistence that the brain creates the mind and decided not to pursue the issue any further. Best of all he discusses G forces on pilots giving a sense of a NDE and how its not the same thing.
Of all the books I've read I find his to be informative as to the real science investigation vs the dogma of materialism. It's definitely worth a read if you need some prodding to seek your own evidence. Check out the reviews he's getting. That's what convinced me to give him a read: http://www.amazon.com/Science-Near-Death-Experience-Consciousness-Survives/dp/1594773564/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290449589&sr=8-1 Yours, Beau |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by heisenberg69 on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 6:16pm
Hi Beau,
thanks for the link; will check it out... have just ordered it. Dave :) |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Berserk2 on Nov 23rd, 2010 at 4:50pm
Thanks, Beau.
The study of NDEs, OBEs, and ADCs provides the best evidence for survival. But recent anecdotal books do not seen to break new ground. So I'm grateful to discover a new researcher with both scientific and philosophical sophistication. His first book (on parapsychology) looks very interesting as well. What we need now is more cross-cultural studies of NDEs and related phenonomena. Don |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Nov 23rd, 2010 at 7:45pm
That's one the great things about Carter's book. He looks at a lot of different cultures (india, china, middle east (I think) and aborigines too.) He also has a nice little section on death bed visions near the end. All in all I found the book well worth my time even though he still mentions the dentures on the cart and Pam Reynolds which has become pretty old school now.
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Alfred on Nov 23rd, 2010 at 10:59pm
Thanks for posting the link to Carter's book, Beau. It seems like one I'll definitely have to order.
I'm sure the old materialist predominance is fraying at the edges, and starting an inevitable decline. Whether it finally gets discarded sooner rather than later remains to be seen. But with its passing, science itself will be unleashed to make huge progress, no longer held back by a false view of reality which has held sway now for far too long. Alfred |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by vikingsgal on Dec 13th, 2010 at 7:28pm
Thanks alot for this recommendation, Beau. I went to Amazon and read the reviews. Need I add that I immediately placed an order?Enjoy the holidays :D
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by heisenberg69 on Dec 18th, 2010 at 10:41am
Have just finished Chris Carter's book. I found it to be well written and researched; rather less technical than Pim Van Lommel's book but written from a more philosophical perspective I feel.
One thing that interests me, given the number of researchers ( Van Lommel, Sabom, Fenwick, Grayson to name a few) who give solid scientific evidence that NDEs can't be accounted for with materialist explanations, why is the medical community so reluctant to change their standard position ? This was brought home to me when chatting with a doctor friend; when the subject of NDEs came up I said that I felt that the scientific community were slowly changing their minds. She said that was'nt her experience at all in her medical circles . I thought it interesting that Chris Carter made the point that the biological sciences still embraced a classic determinism which had been abandoned by physicists a long time ago... I know that in the UK skeptics such as Susan Blackmore are given a lot of prominence and air time so maybe its more to do with scientific politics than scientific rigour. I'd be interested to hear Mathew's take on this... |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Dec 18th, 2010 at 11:02am
Dave,
What is your doctor friend's position on NDE's? |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by heisenberg69 on Dec 18th, 2010 at 11:35am
A skeptic, but an open-minded one Beau. As far as I can see she has never had access to non-material evidence because it never comes within her radar (she's a GP). I get the impression that, in her circles, the dominant view is that the NDE has been satisfactorily explained as due to chemical processes in a dying brain. If no contrary evidence is presented then its not surprising that that view is maintained !
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by vikingsgal on Jan 5th, 2011 at 7:20pm
I agree with your comments; however, I
have recently read a book by Pim Van Lommel which I would recommend to readers with some scientific background. I also finished Jeffrey Long's recent book. It is MUCH lighter reading than PVL'S opus, and, as you said, does not have new break throughs although it does represent much dedicated research. |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Jan 6th, 2011 at 12:47pm
I was looking into Vin Lommel's book when I came across Chris Carter's. And I have thought about looking at Jeffrey Long's book too. I would just like to read about some new evidence where the people involved in the anecdotes haven't disappeared and could validate the stories. Just first person validation would be superb for me. I suppose I'll get Van Lommel's book next unless something else comes out in the next few months that strikes my interest.
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Jan 10th, 2011 at 1:07pm
Here is a very in depth article on the many ways mainstream science tries to eradicate alternative explanations. http://www.suppressedscience.net/skepticism.html
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Rondele on Jan 10th, 2011 at 1:11pm
Thanks Beau.
Did he say anything about the NDE effects of ketamine? R |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Jan 10th, 2011 at 2:11pm
Yes he does (Carter that is) He has a few pages devoted to the ketamine model.
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Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Bardo on Jan 11th, 2011 at 10:20am Beau wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 1:07pm:
He wrote in the 1930's and catalogued thousands of occurances of phenomena that organized science systematically "conventionalized" and then ignored. Of his three big bboks, I have only read "Lo!", which they say is the most readable. Its pretty amazing. |
Title: Re: Chris Carter's New Book Post by Beau on Jan 11th, 2011 at 12:40pm
Thanks for the link, Bardo. I'm enjoying The Book of the Damned. Good Stuff.
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