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Message started by Jurgen on Nov 6th, 2010 at 2:52pm

Title: New Life After Death website
Post by Jurgen on Nov 6th, 2010 at 2:52pm
This website describes my ongoing exploration into Life After Death and is designed to complement my book "Multidimensional Man". Please feel free to explore, post comments or ask questions.
www.multidimensionalman.com

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by betson on Nov 10th, 2010 at 10:47am
Hi Jurgen

You have developed a very handsome website with an amazing amount of information!  Congratulations!

I look forward to going to it many times, as it certainly is deserves some time spent.  Thank you for doing all that.

Betson

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by CharleyTuna on Nov 26th, 2010 at 11:12pm
im not posting on anything looking to right anymore books

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by Pat E. on Nov 27th, 2010 at 2:03am
Charley, nor should you, although a study of basic grammar would not be amiss in your case.

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by spooky2 on Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:43pm
Jurgen Ziewe's book is great!
I really recommend it to everyone interested in OBEs and spiritual growth.

Spooky

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by Seraphis1 on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 12:30pm

Pat E. wrote on Nov 27th, 2010 at 2:03am:
Charley, nor should you, although a study of basic grammar would not be amiss in your case.


;D

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by Romain on Dec 3rd, 2010 at 7:41pm
Spooky,
Jurgen Ziewe's book is great!
It's on my list of book to get shortly.

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by spooky2 on Dec 7th, 2010 at 6:55pm
You won't regret it, Romain.

Spooky

Title: Re: New Life After Death website - update
Post by Jurgen on Dec 9th, 2010 at 3:36pm
Thanks for all your support.

In an effort to contribute mapping out the nature of our multidimensional universe I've added another article about a territory most out-of-body travelers enjoy visiting. Bruce refers to it as Focus 27. I call it the intermediate dimension as I experience it more as a progression from one state of consciousness to the next, same thing though. Here is the latest article:
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Medium_Dimensions_where_dreams_come_true.html
Also, you can download my "OBE" artwork as wallpaper if you like, go to: "Links" then click: "Light & Magic" ( :) free of course). Or simply click here: http://www.magicfantasyart.com
I hope you'll enjoy it. Thank you all.

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by recoverer on Dec 10th, 2010 at 2:24pm
Jurgen:

I received your book in the mail a few days ago. I've read some of it. The way you go out of body reminds me of how I do so. In the beginning I used to experience things such as the vibrational state before I did so, but now I become conscious during a dream and do whatever it is I do.

When you speak of lower realms you state that all souls eventually find their way out of lower realms.  This is contrary to what Bruce Moen wrote. In what manner did you find that all souls eventually find their way back to the light?


Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by Jurgen on Dec 12th, 2010 at 12:02pm
Hi Recoverer,

Let me try answering your question by first stating that in the final analysis everything is consciousness. There is no particle of the universe which is not consciousness. We cannot even imagine anything without consciousness because the very act of imagining it requires consciousness. Consciousness appears to be running a self perpetuating program to gather experience via a universal feedback system which we refer to as creation, constantly evolving, expanding, feeding back, modifying, learning and creating over and over again. Although this might sound a bit mechanistic it is not at all. It is intelligent, perfect, beautiful and sublime beyond imagination. It uses individualization to make the most out of experience with which it penetrates the "darkest" as well as the most "transcendental" aspects of its creation. Being nonjudgmental it is all about experience.

It uses negative as well as positive energies to accomplish its mission. Inevitably negative energy is finite and it can only be used in a limited way. Souls following a negative experience process require positive energy as well to sustain their negative ways. After physical death these energies will still need to work themselves out. In some cases this can be accomplished in a matter of minutes, in others it can take hundreds or even thousands of years, depending on the kind of experiences pursued. No matter how long it takes, in the end this finite negative energy will burn itself out if it is no longer sustained. With consciousness and attention withdrawn from it, it becomes an evaporating mirage.

The big question is, is this consciousness withdrawing from this burned-out mirage still individualized or is it just consciousness. I am afraid I cannot answer this question, may be Bruce can.

Title: Re: New Life After Death website
Post by recoverer on Dec 12th, 2010 at 4:44pm
Hello Jurgen:

First of all, I like your book. Thank you for letting us know about it.

Regarding whether some souls perish, Bruce Moen and two other sources I know about say that some do. On the other hand some sources say that no souls perish. Bruce Moen wrote that some do so because they reach a point where they don’t feel worthy of receiving unconditional love and can’t open up to it and this is necessary in order for them to continue.

When it comes to the sources that say that all souls find their way back to the light eventually, none of the sources I read explain why they believe this is so. Going by what you wrote I get the impression it isn’t a matter of what you were told or shown, but rather what makes sense to you when you consider how the process you described works.

I am unable to say with certainty what the answer to this question is. There have been retrievals (spirit rescues) I’ve helped with and spirits who had reached a dark state of mind were cleansed so they could proceed towards the light. I can’t say to what extent this happens. I asked my spirit guidance if some souls perish but I wasn’t provided with an answer. I guess my guidance believes it would be better if I tried to figure out the answer for myself. Quite often they leave it up to me.

Regarding the question you asked at the end of your post, this is a matter I’ve considered a lot, and even though everything started from pure consciousness (whatever that means), everything doesn’t need to revert to the point where eventually only pure consciousness exits. One we reach a point where we can live according to love and a truly wise way of being, what would be the point of each of us ending our existence completely? It is true that what we create is imaginary, but as long the consciousness we use to experience what we create is real, then it is okay if we make use of the imagination that comes from our being. Our ability to learn and imagine is a part of who we are just as being aware is a part of who we are.

I don’t believe it is a matter of reaching a state of being where there is either one being all by itself or many beings who are separate from each other, rather, it is a matter of reaching a state of being where we are one and many at the same time. Each of us has to exist in a substantial way in order to share love and oneness with each other. The consciousness that each of us has, the wisdom we gain, and our love for ourselves and each other validates our existence. If our love for each other can't validate our existence, I don't know what can. Certainly a scientific explanation won't suffice. ;)  Our imagination serves the purpose of providing us with a means to obtain wisdom and a loving way of being.

I wrote the above, partly because of what you wrote on page 208 of your book: “I felt I could take no more and feared that if I stayed on I would surrender my very consciousness and lose myself in the infinite ocean of pure joy.” I don’t believe it is a matter of losing our self completely, but rather a matter of losing a limited and false idea of our self. What we truly are can never go away.






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