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thoughts?

I didnt watch the video, but find no offense or trouble in the thought that the universe is not "made for us" as in "made for homo sapiens". It is clearly made for everybeing. And why should it not? And its rules and makeup are still an exciting mystery to us to a great extent.

chrwe wrote on Jul 7^th, 2010 at 11:59pm:

I didnt watch the video, but find no offense or trouble in the thought that the universe is not "made for us" as in "made for homo sapiens". It is clearly made for everybeing. And why should it not? And its rules and makeup are still an exciting mystery to us to a great extent.

What makes it clear that is made for every being?  :-?

Inventech5 wrote on Jul 8^th, 2010 at 8:06pm:

chrwe wrote on Jul 7th, 2010 at 11:59pm: I didnt watch the video, but find no offense or trouble in the thought that the universe is not "made for us" as in "made for homo sapiens". It is clearly made for everybeing. And why should it not? And its rules and makeup are still an exciting mystery to us to a great extent. What makes it clear that is made for every being?  :-?

It obviously works for us...other beings besides us, well, we hear about them don't we?  Read the Enquirer...they land all the time.  And all the flora and fauna can be considered other beings...

What makes it clear?

Firstly, the earth consists of many beings, including plants as well as animals and insects. Some of these are quite complex and many scientists think they are self-aware just like we are or in a similar way (simians, dolphins, whales, elephants....).

Then, given the vastness of the universe and the great number of planets, it is very likely mathematically that other planets exist/ed with sentient life forms on them, so the universe is "for" them as well. And if you allow for the possibility that there are lifeforms, sentient and self-aware, that follow completely different rules than we do (say, energy-based life forms, silicon-based life forms etc etc), it is even more likely that the beauty and complexity of life is infinite. And if you allow even more for the thought that modern scientists have brought up, that there are 11+ dimensions of which we know only 4 and that there are also many universes - well?

Restricting this universe and your thinking to "humans only" is, in my eyes, very flat-earth like ;).