Hi all,

Several years ago, while exploring and experimenting with placing the intent to visit non-human intelligences beyond Focus 27, I encountered a group of very tall, thin, glowing golden beings resembling huge toothpicks (lol, that was the best description I could come up with at the time). I posted subsequent visits, describing a strange window/barrier between myself and them made of what looked like a liquid of undulating mother of pearl, their ideas on matter, their way of existence and their ho-hum interest in the Earth-Life-System. At one point I was offered the opportunity to merge with one of them and I was treated to a remarkably beautiful moment, in what I could only describe as swirling warm sunlight filled with multi-colored twinkling lights.

I always came away from each visit feeling peaceful and as time passed they asked about the dense matter I lived in and began showing more interest in Earth life. They revealed that the original barrier between us was for my psychological benefit, and not, as I had assumed, a kind of protection for them. It was also transmitted to me that I had really been dealing with one entity all along, one entity that for reasons I never quite understood presented itself as or actually was a grouping of several autonomous beings.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I decided to look in on them. It never was clear whether they use to send out invitations to me, or the other way around, but I decided to bring to myself what it had always felt like when in their presence, and I got a big surprise. Some of them, clustered together as usual, had moved so close to the ELS that they were at a jump off point or place where they could willingly enter into human/Earth life. A few had already taken the leap and those still undecided were watching, waiting anxiously for their return. Their curiosity was immense! I was dumbfounded and when I asked if they really wanted to do the human/Earth life thing ::) I got back a chorus of, in so many words, "Are you kidding?! It's an incredible experience! Oh yes absolutely!!!". I was at such a loss for words that I simply continued observing and then quietly returned to full waking consciousness. Once again I was reminded of a beautiful definition for the ELS, offered by Bruce Moen:  A vacation from eternity.


Thanks for reading and much love :),

Ginny

Hi Ginny,
do I get you right, some of those golden beings want to incarnate in a human body? Or had you a sense that they had another option, like somehow being very close, connected to humans so that they would half participate, half observe the human experience? It seems as if they have gathered some knowledge about it, and are planning it carefully, unlike Monroe told being more or less accidentally sucked away to earth from a cosmic tourist trip  :D .

Spooky

Thank you Ginny!

Now that you've contacted them again, will you be visiting them more often?
How wondrous!

Bets

Hi Spooks,

I'm not sure what it is they're attracted to experiencing in the ELS. I think it involves trying out the human thing as well as dipping into and out of all life forms here, but that's a guess right now. They were as excited as children are when at the gates to Disneyland for the first time. It was a good reminder for me in how important it is to not lose sight of the bigger picture, which I tend to do now and then ::).

Much love,

Ginny

Hi Bets,

Yes. Gotta find out what happens next :).

Much love,

Ginny

Thanks for the reminder Ginny,

I too am starting to lose sight of the bigger picture now that I have too much time on my hands & watching too much tv. I've been so focused on trying to figure what's going on in the world & what I can do about it or even sum up what's happening.

I suspect  that's possibly what the ET's might find so intriguing in the ELS.  Meaning the feeling that each human has that they're stranded here all alone to figure out what it's all about with occasional exchanges of PUL that make's it all worth it.

So your post kind of gave me a bigger perspective again-Love, Jean :-*

Ginny, what a wonderful experience and interaction.  I have never experienced anything quite like it but have read that there are many beings whose sole wish is to obtain the opportunity to experience life on earth; it's density, it's emotions, it's sensitivities, all as we experience them...our trials are their manna from heaven.  Apparently our earth, while steeped in greed, hubris and competition, is also incredibly filled with feelings which are not easily attainable anywhere else.  As a result, we get what they all want, and we seem to not appreciate what we take for granted.

Sorry, I just went off on what your missive described and what it brought to my mind...I do not mean anything negative, I am just trying to make sense of it for myself.  Thank you so much for sharing...once again, what an experience!

Hi Ginny-

Your post reminds me of an old Twilight Zone episode.  Aliens had visited earth, and aroused great curiosity as to their true intentions.

They left behind a book written in an obscure code.  Scientists figured out the title as meaning To Serve Man, but couldn't decipher the rest of the book.  People on earth were excited, thinking that the aliens were here to help mankind.

Finally the rest of the book was deciphered.  Turned out to be a recipe book.  And we were the main course.

So when I read your post about the beings resembling huge toothpicks, I immediately thought of a scene at a party where various foods such as cheese and shrimp were laid out with toothpicks already inserted in them.

You don't suppose their true intentions are to prepare us as Hors d'œuvres at one of their cocktail parties, do you?

R

Hi Jean,

The only thing that use to drive me nuts while watching TV with my grandmother was how she would talk back to the TV. And guess what I've been doing lately ::). Thanks for your kind words, Jean.

Much love,

Ginny

Hi Usetawuz,

It's been thought-provoking, that's for sure.
From all of my afterlife adventures I've come to the same conclusion--that the ELS is unique and considered a prize. All the greed, hubris and competition is just as vital and sought after as the giving, humility and kindness. It's just difficult to remember and feel that over-view when we're immersed in a tiny slice of it. For many years I was adamant--upon dying--about one day being able to take names and kick some a** regarding whoever thought it was funny that I had to be here in the first place (lol). And the joke was on me, of course ;).

Much love,

Ginny

Hi Rog,

Geeez, what a stretch ;D! Can I be an olive speared by a toothpick? At least I could enjoy a martini before aliens consumed me (and I don't even like martinis!!).

I really can say without a shadow of a doubt that those beings do not operate from a position of malice. They are travelers, just as we are, enjoying this thing we call life.

Much love,

Ginny

  Hi Ginny, i enjoyed reading your experiences.  It reminded me of some of my own guidance, and also especially the guidance that worked with Rosiland A. McKnight. 

  During her guidance sessions with RAM and her guidance team, her helpers relayed the info that more E.T. groups and energies would be sending in their energy directly into the Earth--human incarnations. 

They said this was partly in order to help with the present and near future communications with E.T. groups, and implied also a kind of retrieval-service thing to help a largely stuck humanity. 

Looking at your experience from a broader metaphysical lens, it's interesting to note that the E.T. Being(s) you perceived emanated a Golden color. 

Golden is a rather fast frequency wavelength, in a sense quite close to Source and PUUL, but also not quite fully there either. 

It's in the pure radiant White Light that reflects that pure, full and complete attunement to Source and PUUL.  (based on some of my experiences with this, and others i trust).

  So, it seems to me that these Beings are pretty expanded, but also kind of stuck at that Golden level.  They realized they needed an outer catalyst to help get them to that pure Source attuned state that they probably long for, as i believe most Souls long for deep down.

  Plus i think they probably also entered with not just curiosity, but also a desire to help humanity, and in that service help they will reach that conjunction with Source. 

  Yes, i do think the ELS is fairly unique in some ways, i very much appreciate it's role in the larger scheme of things but i'm hesitant to put it on a pedestal as it seems Bruce and you do to some extent.  It's certainly a very catalytic "place" and it's extreme stuckness-inharmony offers some interesting and important experiences in relation to growth to pure Source awareness and maybe also different energy utilization techniques (maybe helpful for when we become full Co-Creators with Source like the Planning Intelligence is?).

  It's interesting to view how the physical Earth, and our participation in it, all came about.  A good Akashic look would teach one the real meaning of stuckness, retrieval, etc. and that even the Co-Creator of this Universe got a bit carried away and lost temporary sight of Sourceness and full PUUL attunement/expression.

  Vacation from eternity is a good way to put it, i also remember Bruce saying that maybe it was better or more helpful for our nonphysical consciousnesses to think about and learn better ways of dealing with existing in eternity than trying to escape from it. 

In that is a big clue i believe, because i believe we can all become and most were originally, full Co-Creators with Source, just like the "Planning Intelligence" was, is, and pretty much stayed that way. 

Seems to me that the P.I. is quite happy, fulfilled, and more than ok with being fully aware that it's a eternal consciousnesses existing in infinite eternity.  Maybe the P.I. is kind of a positive role model for all of us, and not just speaking of humans and their consciousnesses but all consciousnesses contained within and still stuck to some extent, within this Universe?

  I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the P.I. had previously contacted your Golden friend(s) before you had, and that possibly having something to do with their change in attitude towards the physical.  Maybe the P.I. asked for their help in a grand retrieving process here, and also indicated they would expand beyond their current level if they did this rightly and kept to their more harmonious and loving ways?

I wonder if the beings who watch our earth and want to experience how it is being human have an influence on how humans behave, how they think, feel etc. , I mean I tend to think instead of the concept that there is a soul which is incarnating, maybe there are beings (or "energies" or "consciousness fields" or "discs" or whatever to call them) and these would interact with each other, and interact with this earth-life system and so are constantly co-creating it. It could mean that when new entities come around and become a player things here on earth would change accordingly.

Spooky

I enjoyed this and some of your other experiences, Ginny.

A very long time ago, or maybe it's only been less than 10 years, less than that, I was deep in a cave in meditation. This cave was far below the surface of the earth. There were some 'golden beings' in this cave, only a small group, that interacted with me. Maybe 4-6, I don't know. As I remember it, they were friendly, and even seemed amused at times. I didn't know how to interact with them, but enjoyed their 'presence', until moving on into a sequence dictated by my meditation aid/cd.

I don't remember these 'beings' being suggested, but simply discovered there, while visiting this underground chamber. I don't remember them being thin, either, but kind of big and tall compared to me, maybe. They were all grouped around me, sort of 'facing' me, although they didn't have faces, if you know what I mean.

I surely wouldn't mind if beings like them entered my 'everyday', ordinary world, because they seemed very benign, very warm and calm.

Thanks for sharing all your interesting stories here.

Hi Justin,

I was a little cautious, a little in awe and greatly curious about them in the beginning. And with each visit I was able to subconsciously store more and more info until I had what I guess you could call a solid knowing about them. Actually I feel that's true with all afterlife exploration--that we come away each time with lots more than we initially realize. One of many things I found so fascinating about them was the fact that they were a little cautious, in awe and very curious about me as well. Wasn't anything special on my part. I just had 'ELS stuff' in my energy and they went after the what/how/why/where/when of it. 

What it all boiled down to was there we were at a busy crossroads getting acquainted, sharing information, helping with directions. Reminds me of the train stations in France and Spain when I backpacked my way around in the 70's. Thousands of others were doing the same and paperback books, maps, messages to friends were at every station in designated areas, with the understanding that it was all free to fellow travelers. Once read or used, you simply left it at another station for someone else to enjoy. When you had to sleep on hard benches for hours waiting on a train, those books came in handy :).

I don't know if they were invited by others to journey here. I never got the impression that they operated from a place of superiority over humans. There was never a status thing going on. It seemed to me that the alien-human-thing pretty much dissolved between us after a few get-togethers. The only thing they were puzzled about with me was why I would ever caution them against experiencing the ELS.

It's always darkest before dawn. Perhaps this could end up being the human race's finest hour after all?

Much love,

Ginny

Spooky,

Yes, interesting thought. Makes one ask just who the 'aliens' really are then. Did we originally come here as well, to play and fall off the jungle bars and make friends and experience emotions and test the limits of this remarkable playground? Perhaps other beings coming here to join in the fun automatically guarantees the gates will always be open, the millions of rides and tours and adventures to be lived will always be available.

Ginny,

To me this one entity sounds like a higher self taking a leap into the game. Interesting to read! Thanks.

Ginny-- when I was a kid (maybe around 4 or 5 years old) I would visit a golden city. The streets and buildings were all gold and I would fly over them in the astral.  More recently, I have visited a myrid of netting with "sparkle lights) The mesh was height and width as far as the eye could see in total blackness, just "hanging" in the blackness with zillions of sparkle lights.  This is so exciting!!!  I am so happy for you.  Congratulations on making your 1st contact with HIB (higher intellegent beings).  Love Carol Ann

Ginny:

Cool experience.

Identcat:

I received messages that something significant is going to happen during October of this year. If I remember correctly, in the past you wrote that while you were at TMI you were told that something significant is going to happen this year. I can't remember the details, would you be able to provide? Thank you.

Ginny- You said:  <<Some of them, clustered together as usual, had moved so close to the ELS that they were at a jump off point or place where they could willingly enter into human/Earth life. A few had already taken the leap and those still undecided were watching, waiting anxiously for their return. >>

I am trying to figure out exactly how they (or it, assuming it's really one entity) would enter into ELS.

I mean, in order to experience living here, wouldn't they have to assume human shape with all of our sensory organs?  They would have to experience all of our emotions, including hunger and thirst.  That means they would need stomachs, right?

They would need to feel joy and fear, and all of the other emotions we experience.

So.....that raises the obvious question: how would they be able to suddenly appear on earth, having human form, and not be "noticed" by the rest of us?  They would need a house.  How would they get it?  They would need money.  Would they apply for a job somewhere?  They would need to be able to explain themselves to humans, who would ask questions.

Or would they be just like us but be invisible?

There are just so many other questions implicit in their becoming like us that it's kind of mind boggling to say the least.

Do you have any insight on these kinds of dilemmas?  If not, maybe you could ask them next time?

R

Hi b2,

Fascinating. Did you get a sense that they could have been a part of Earth? You handled it really well, b2. You just let the moment unfold instead of becoming alarmed and losing the connection. Thanks for sharing this :).

Much love,

Ginny

Rondelle:

I don't understand why you believe there is a dilemma. Couldn't they just incarnate into human bodies?

When it comes to the disk/I-there viewpoint, incarnation isn't limited to human experience. I've had experiences that made the point that my disk/self has had more than human experiences.

Why put limits on what a soul is capable of experiencing, learning, becoming?

Hi Identcat,

Whoa! The netting. Did you get an impression of what the lights were or what it was you were seeing? Kinda sounds like an experience Buddha's had.

Much love,

Ginny

Thanks Volu and recoverer :).

Albert-

Well, I suppose they could incarnate into human bodies, but then what?  How would they explain themselves to us "regular" humans?

Obviously they would have to live somewhere.  Or are you thinking they would just walk around for a while and then go back?

Would they sort of custom design their own human bodies?  I don't think they would occupy the body of another human.  But then how can we be assured of that?

And I sure hope they don't need humans to serve as a kind of "portal" for them to gain entry. 

If their purpose is to fully experience the ELS, I hope they have to drive in rush-hour traffic.  Now THAT'S a human experience no one should miss.....Of course, buying a car and getting a driver's license might pose somewhat of a problem.

And if you or I were to make their acquaintance, wouldn't we at some point ask them about their families and where they grew up and what school they went to, etc etc etc.

Which means, of course, they would need to somehow have a full history of their past here on earth.  Or to have something already concocted.

You really need to think this through.  It's fraught with an amazing amount of problems.

R

What I meant is that our souls are neither human or alien, they are entities that have different kinds of experiences.  Therefore, the golden beings Ginny speaks of could incarnate just as any of us do.

Chances are that after they do so they'll forget about who/what they were before they incarnated, just as we do.

rondele wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 6:26pm:

Albert- And I sure hope they don't need humans to serve as a kind of "portal" for them to gain entry.  If their purpose is to fully experience the ELS, I hope they have to drive in rush-hour traffic.  Now THAT'S a human experience no one should miss.....Of course, buying a car and getting a driver's license might pose somewhat of a problem. R

Okay, I'll take this on. Hee hee. Who says a person needs a driver's license and a car? I've been car-free for an entire year. The old tank is sitting out there gathering rust, about to be donated. Otherwise, I am biking and busing, and occasionally chauffeured. All I'm saying, is, ....give peace a chance....wait a minute...back to the thread.

Roger,

In a number of your posts you've expressed doubt regarding Bruce Moen's methods and discoveries and that Bob Monroe's OOBEs were somehow a more 'legitamite set of afterlife experiences' (kind of a Donald Beserk idea, right?). Have you ever read Monroe's books?

Ginny

Ginny wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 12:47pm:

Hi Justin, I was a little cautious, a little in awe and greatly curious about them in the beginning. And with each visit I was able to subconsciously store more and more info until I had what I guess you could call a solid knowing about them. Actually I feel that's true with all afterlife exploration--that we come away each time with lots more than we initially realize. One of many things I found so fascinating about them was the fact that they were a little cautious, in awe and very curious about me as well. Wasn't anything special on my part. I just had 'ELS stuff' in my energy and they went after the what/how/why/where/when of it.  What it all boiled down to was there we were at a busy crossroads getting acquainted, sharing information, helping with directions. Reminds me of the train stations in France and Spain when I backpacked my way around in the 70's. Thousands of others were doing the same and paperback books, maps, messages to friends were at every station in designated areas, with the understanding that it was all free to fellow travelers. Once read or used, you simply left it at another station for someone else to enjoy. When you had to sleep on hard benches for hours waiting on a train, those books came in handy :). I don't know if they were invited by others to journey here. I never got the impression that they operated from a place of superiority over humans. There was never a status thing going on. It seemed to me that the alien-human-thing pretty much dissolved between us after a few get-togethers. The only thing they were puzzled about with me was why I would ever caution them against experiencing the ELS. It's always darkest before dawn. Perhaps this could end up being the human race's finest hour after all? Much love, Ginny

  Thank you for the reply.  Re: the highlighted part, i understand that, and i wasn't trying to imply that to begin with. 

  I guess i will use a human analogy.  When you or i have participated in retrievals of fellow stuck human consciousnesses, i'm guessing that neither of us do so with the attitude of superiority or the like in relation to the person temp. stuck--especially since we are aware that parts of ourselves have been stuck before too. 

But, you see someone suffering and you want to help, and in helping you not only lift them up, but also yourself--a beautiful reciprocity of PUUL. (i add a "universal" in with Bruce's PUL). 

  I suspect this may be partly the case with these Golden Beings as well as other E.T.'s which are sending in direct energy to incarnate as humans during a very change filled and momentous cycle.  My take btw on guidance and afterlife experience/knowing is a little more subtle that what Bruce Moen writes in his books. 

I've come to understand that there is a level of guidance called intuition that can inform one just as much as more sensory like experiences that Bruce and others talks about wherein one is "seeing" or what not something nonphysical.  Intuition is more subtle, one has to trust and be more still to receive direct knowing in that way.

  I have the perspective that there are relative degrees of stuckness or rather not to be negative, there are relative degrees of freedom.  I suspect that to some extent, these Golden beings were also relatively, slightly stuck, for the only state i view as completely and purely free is reflected by the emanation of the most incredibly pure, radiant White Light. 

  Freedoms just another word, of Sources love and consciousness, and honey if it aint that then it aint truly free :D.  I suspect in their experiencing of the ELS and doing retrieval work here, they will fully and completely wake up to the above.

  In any case, it's all the same process as it is with us humans or any other Sibling out there--just some need different experiences and outer catalysts than others at different times.  They're not better, and we're not better, but it's also true to say that there are plenty of E.T. groups out there that are as a collective, less stuck than humanity as a collective.  These more free groups, act as helpers and retrievers in different capacities and i suspect Rosiland's guidance team is right about more of these will be incarnating directly as humans to help out the Whole.

 

Ginny,

Thanks for starting this thread, I haven't really felt it was a "safe haven" for a while. Enjoyed the glow and wrote alot of responses to many posters to this thread and was just about to post them but when I checked who was currently on the board, Don was there. I guess his radar or followers tipped him off that his name was mentioned. 

So, I think I'll wait.

Your in my thoughts, Jean :-/ :-*

Ginny wrote on Jun 21^st, 2010 at 5:50pm:

Hi b2, Fascinating. Did you get a sense that they could have been a part of Earth? You handled it really well, b2. You just let the moment unfold instead of becoming alarmed and losing the connection. Thanks for sharing this :). Much love, Ginny

Oops, got distracted and forgot to reply to your question, Ginny. About the golden beings I saw/felt being a part of the earth....I don't know. They seemed to be 'themselves', whoever they were. I cannot really characterize them as 'part' of the earth, but maybe they are. That's where they were, in a cave full of crystals. I have no real 'control' on 'who' presents themselves, but I am ready to embrace love, wherever I find it, and that's where I found it that day.

Justin,

Absolutely. I think there have been many from outside the ELS who, once entering in to it, have been able to not get caught up or become addicted to it...in order to perhaps aid many who are. Was Jesus a retriever? And getting lost in that merry-go-round and cycling through its tremendous energy in order to experience first hand, grow, learn more of who and what we are, what love is...is just part of the ballgame as well. That's what I've learned so far :).

Justin, when I contact Helpers or encounter someone who is stuck, or visit belief systems and unknown territories, all of what I bring back from each trip is derived through the use of non-physical senses (feelings, telepathy, instant downloads and uploads in the blink of an eye, instant 'knowing')...and if I understand you correctly, intuition is a part of the nonphysical sensing. I still utilize my mind's eye but if that was the only sense or communication tool I used I wouldn't have much to write about. As a matter of fact it isn't necessary, but I still choose to have a 'look-see' when I'm out and about :). Intuition is a powerful tool to use Here as well as There. I've had to learn the hard way to pay attention to what's coming in, and learn to trust that process, and that's pretty much what I do as well when in an afterlife situation.

Ginny

b2,

Oh wow, sounds like a magnificent place to be. Caves are wonderful, especially when lined with crystals.

Ginny

Gin; way to go..and thanks for posting it, truly enjoyed reading it, with donuts..:)

Yes would love to be in a cave full of crystals too, can you imagine the energies there..wow
PUL, R.

Ginny

Having just had an "opportunity" to see, from the fringes, someone die a very unexpected and undeserved and horrific and painful (but swift) death, see how this incident rippled out to affect many, and see the sorrow of the folks who clearly cared for this person, and feeling that final sense of hopelessness that existed right before death resonate with situations in my own life that held an element of "not easy to get out of this pain here" feelings, I am having trouble with these concepts of "vacation from eternity" and standing at the gates of Life-as-Disneyland. As the many descriptions of NDE's indicate, when we are in the bliss, we don't experience the pain, and when we are in the pain, we don't experience the bliss. What the heck is it about that dichotomy that makes this earthly experience so attractive?

My higher self and me are not (always? ever?) on the same page. I'm not even sure my higher self is wiser, but I assume it is always in the bliss. At least that is the larger perspective I lack. But I really don't get why we choose to be here, what we gain from forgetting. Alternatively, if God is all-knowing, why does God need for me to be here learning goodness knows what?

Still, I enjoy hearing about your adventures. Whatever it is (we are doing here) you seem to have fun with it.

Hi Lucy, I'm sorry you had to witness such a tragedy.  The emotions they brought out in you, both for the victim and the survivors, together with their emotions can be heartbreaking. 

For me, the only way this could make any sense in being part of our reality is if it only has a place here.  If it is perfection all the time elsewhere, where would emotions like those you had, simply from witnessing the event, be obtained?  I find solace in the belief that from such tragedy and pain comes some sense of appreciation for the emotions created and potentially lessons learned or experiences obtained.

Through meditation I have reviewed many of my deaths and they are each met with an enormous sense of relief...even from lives that were exceptionally good by all accounts.  One in particular I have previously documented here, wherein I died as a seventeen year old boy in a car wreck.   While I was angry at having left so soon, I was also laughing with my guidance and soulmates and replanning my future incarnations as I was not going to be "on earth" for the next 25 years as previously planned.  From that soul level standpoint, death is the end of our part in the play on earth and the sense of tragedy or pain, while there, does not have the impact it has on us as incarnate humans.

Hi Lucy,

I have a problem at times with this 'vacation' too, Lucy, and I'm sure I will continue to, to some degree, until I kick this bucket. Being human is complex and so bewildering at times. I've been pee-oed and angry about having to be Here (blowing off steam at the stars was not one of my finer moments ::), lol). But I don't believe that I've been forced into being human, or that I'm sinful just because I'm currently experiencing being a member of the human race...and remembering this always helps. For me it means I have a great deal to do with why I'm Here, even if I can't fully grasp or feel the big picture. I'm at no one's mercy except my own.

You're in my thoughts and much love,

Ginny

Romain,

Donuts, my brother ;)!

Sis