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Message started by Inventech5 on Jun 10th, 2010 at 4:12pm

Title: Souls in everything?
Post by Inventech5 on Jun 10th, 2010 at 4:12pm
Is it possible for souls to be incarnated into anything, such as a rock or a book? If not, why?

Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by betson on Jun 10th, 2010 at 5:41pm
Hi inventech,

From what I'm learning, there is spirit in everything. Maybe not individual spirits, but extensions of Earthspirit that reveals itself through various forms such as rocks, trees, animals.

Some animals such as birds and mammals have a type of soul but that type of soul is not capable of all that a human's soul can do, in my understanding.

When I go OB in the third subtle body or do phasing, I see other souls and some are not from Earth. But they all have some characteristics of their energyforms in common. These characteristics are best described as being like a torus, a very high energy configuration that attracts mass and other energy and is capable of generating alot of light.
When I asked to see animal souls I was told there is no such thing but they could show me spirit-forms of animals. These were much simpler. 
They could not show me bird soulforms yet due to some blockages I have. I don't have the 'channels' to receive such information because I haven't loved and respected birds enough.

Personally I've not meditated on soul in man-made arts, crafts, technology, etc. I know humans are made of many types of energy and that some of a creator's energy is left with his/her creation. Hand-made pottery comes to mind, but even loved objects, such as long-lived antiques, carry energies of their owners that other humans respond to.

If we just had more words beyond 'soul,' 'spirit', 'dead,' etc ,  then I think we could better understand the types and amounts of spiritual energies that animate life.

Bets

Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by Pat E. on Jun 11th, 2010 at 1:47am
Bets, if I ever get so far as to be able to access animal soulforms, I will certainly be able to access the bird soulforms.  When my daughter was young we acquired a budgie who came to have the run (well, flight) of the house.  Ever have a small bird land in an omelet that hasn't yet made it to the skillet?  After over 8 years with us, the budgie developed a large fatty tumor.  After Megan and I cried when the vet suggested we put the bird to sleep, he did successful surgery, then twice more at six months intervals as the tumor returned.  Finally, we lost that brave little bird the day after the last surgery.  We buried Snowflake in a small handmade wooden box in the backyard with appropriate ceremony.  Few birds have been as well loved as Snowflake.

Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by chrwe on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:18am
If you concentrate on animals or plants and let your consciousness slip away a bit, "expand" so to say, you can feel that animals and plants have souls too. As to how they work, I believe that depends on how their brains are structured (plants have a sort of brain too, dont want to go into biology too much here), some are closer to human states of being and some aren`t.

There is some sort of "essence" to every person and to every living thing, I can`t describe it any better. If there is a soul, this essence is it (I think). Also, this essence always has a little part of "me" in it, which makes me think there is something to the belief that everything is one in some fashion, yet everything is diverse at the same time.

Just try it, it`s a bit hard to describe :). Tell me if you get somewhere (I sometimes fear I am just imagining things).


Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by betson on Jun 11th, 2010 at 9:27am
Wow chwre!

You're a mystic! an Earth goddess who thinks she's lost her God (?)
You have such reverence, respect, and love for life!
Yes, I've tried what you call expanding into other life forms and the response of warmth (PUL?) is wonderful ! Perhaps we'll never know how much of such interaction is ourself and how much 'them.'
Since the interaction is possible because we're all from One Source, and It is just meeting itself through different forms, does it matter?


Pat E,

:D  A budgie fell into an omelet !?! :D Oh wow, that is pathos, that is irony! Which came first, the birdie or the egg?
I do regret that Snowflake had a rough go of it later, but I'm sure he felt much love from you and yours.  :)
I'm looking forward to getting to know such a being as Snowflake!

Bets

Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by chrwe on Jun 11th, 2010 at 9:36am
:) ah, betson, inside me, the war between pure, intellectual materialist-atheist thinking and intuitive, spiritual, connected thinking is going on in full force

Title: Re: Souls in everything?
Post by usetawuz on Jun 11th, 2010 at 8:03pm

chrwe wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 9:36am:
:) ah, betson, inside me, the war between pure, intellectual materialist-atheist thinking and intuitive, spiritual, connected thinking is going on in full force


Coming from a similar trench in that war (law), it is up to you, chrwe, to see the light, to leave behind those warring mental factions and rise above the "show-me" stage to the "know-me" stage and let the purity of what obviously comes so naturally to you, burst forth.  What you just described blew me away and the miniscule vignettes of what I've seen pale in comparison to the realities you appear to feel as a matter of course. 

On another note, a friend of mine described to me the idea that dogs, cats and other animals that are frequently around us have a collective soul...one in which they understand they only change their material structure and that they do not die.  Their individuality is simply the home they are in now, but they do not have the sense of separation that we have and their pack (in the case of dogs) whether it contains humans, cats, horses, cows, etc, is something they accept as what they are dealing with during this particular lifetime.  The animals that are our pets are also apparently available to assist us and if they are loved can reciprocate that love with sympathetic indicators of illness and other maladies...often "taking one for the team", so to speak.

As for the rest of "life" surrounding us, it is all conscious to some extent, some moreso than others, but all of it has a place and value in the earth of our "reality".   

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